Proposal description
100,000 Sign-ups and counting, aiming for 1 million sign-ups in next 3 months. Dash is going Viral in Venezuela!
Escrow sponsored by Dash Force News (@Mastermind ) link
Scaling this proposal to get 1 million users by giving $1 for every one who sign-ups.
Imagine various media outlets going gaga about Dash's 1 million sign-ups in a country suffering from hyperinflation providing much-needed legitimacy for
cryptocurrencies.
With Google and Facebook banning cryptocurrency ads, Getfreedash's peer to peer marketing strategy is much more relevant now and will remain as the
foundation for the many Dash Activities in Venezuela.
Thanks a lot for those who switched their NO votes to Yes, I am happy to answer all your concerns if any, you can also reach me on discord #mno-office
Dollar-to-dollar getfreedash is the most effective campaigns out there for raising Dash awareness.There are 200+ youtube videos promoting us https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=getfreedash.com%2Findex.phpWill quit my job if this proposal passes and will offer data analytics services as well
Actual Dash transactions list About 50,000 transactions Payment link.
why is Getfreedash so powerful?
"People spend months on seeing ads and learning about dash … but don’t actually download the wallet which is what we aim to change.”
GetFreeDash is doing an airdrop to everyone that signs up, you get $0.5 USD equivalent in Dash and another $0.5 USD equivalent in Dash for each friend that signs up using a referral link.
we aim to “sign up 1 million users and kick-start a local dash economy in Venezuela and we have the stats show our track record.
Sign up Stats
Google Analytics stats
100s of positive feedback received from various people including from people on the ground in Venezuela.
a few sample partnership requests
Pre-proposal links:
Current one:
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/75-000-users-and-counting-next-stop-1-million-users-if-you-support-us.30301/
Previous one:
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/dash-is-going-viral-in-venezuela-crossed-100-000-signups-need-your-support-urgent.28708/
why are we asking for additional 550 Dash when we have a parallel proposal running?
This obviously is one the first question that comes to any MNOs mind, let me answer.
we are running on running out of our daily scheduled funds of 5 dash very easily, we have a payout backlog of 7 days ( i.e if you sign up today you get paid in 5-7 days - this is of course mentioned when you request your withdrawal ) this is because we have a limited budget of 5 dash per day, As you can understand this is not an ideal situation. we have had multiple complaints from long-time getfreedash fans to pay the same day promising viral growth if we can do that.
This new proposal of 550 dash along with 150 dash gives us that much-needed breathing room, we will able to sign up 10-15000 users per day comfortably with the new money. we need to sign up at that pace if we desire to sign up 1 million people asap.
our payout management page ( snapshot on 16-March -- 6 days backlog)
Basics about Getfreedash?
Getfreedash offers a sign-up bonus and referral bonus, for Venezuela we offer $0.5 for sign up and $0.5 for referral paid in dash ofcourse , which means users
must download a dash wallet . So far the response has been breathtaking with over 120,000 sign ups in just 6 weeks of working. The plan for the future is to partner with local merchants , remittance providers and
freelancing companies, which are obviously very good use cases for using dash.
"Getfreedash has arguably created more buzz and awareness that would cost 10-20x more if you approached via Youtube Ads / Google ads or in fact any other marketing technique. "
Why are we focused on Venezuela?
Venezuela is undergoing one of the worst crisis in the world right now, the currency is depreciating 15% a week, people are exiting the country en masse which resulted in one of
the biggest remittance markets in the Americas. The really interesting info is not even this , Venezuela is one of the few countries which has an artificial currency peg with dollar,
which is much higher ( Bolivar per usd ) than the market rate, because of this when you send money through the official route like western union you get far lesser bolivar per usd,
As a result, people have been resorting to bitcoin heavily apparently as informed by our dear friend @javier ( Javier is a Venezuela resident who joined dash through getfreedash, he's been very supportive to me in giving various insights over current situation in Venezuela, he also referred 100s of his friends to getfreedash. )... check more details here
The current timing for dash is an absolutely awesome opportunity, Maduro has announced cryptocurrency to be used across all businesses in Venezuela, as he wants his crypto Petro to spread as well, please check this link to know more why this is an absolutely wonderful opportunity
All this means only one thing, The need for cryptocurrencies is exploding in this country, so far bitcoin has been a lifeline for many folks however owing to the high fees and unreliable speed, many have been forced back to their state currency bolivars, unfortunately. Getfreedash aims to change this, we are already one of the biggest crowd pullers for any Dash initiative in Venezuela and we aim to sign up few 100k users as soon as possible. With the big user bases we have, other initiatives like Dash Conferences etc can easily piggyback on the userbase.
Now imagine various media outlets going gaga about Dash's 1 million sign-ups in a country suffering from hyperinflation
How do we prevent fraud of same users claiming multiple times?
Controlling fraud is obviously our highest priority. Venezuela like many other developing countries have strict regulations when coming to SIM card ownership, they need your ID verification and only allow so many cards per person. There is also a cost of $1 associated with SIM cards since we are only paying $1 per user, we are eliminating the possibility of a single user claiming multiple times, we are other methods like IP address matching etc which act as a second layer protection.
The more advanced plan is to launch Android app and use various device-specific IDs to identify individual phones precisely.
what are our future plans?
we plan to launch a Getfreedash app very soon, this should ease out the signup process greatly and ensure that we are getting mobile savvy users, which is our primary target.
On the user side we want to acquire as many users in Venezuela as possible ( more initiatives are being planned), having said that , we want to extend this pay per sim card model to other developing countries where people are happy to sign up for receiving just $1 , Countries like Nigeria, Kenya, Philippines, India are in the pipeline , These countries also happen to have one of the biggest remittance markets in the world. The future plan is to integrate with some crypto remittance provider in the west to let them use dash a payment rail ( players like Arba etc). Apart from this, we will also partner with local e-commerce players and other businesses ( but we are getting too far now :) )
Clarification regarding conflict of interest with ben’s proposal
On ben’s proposal, i have stated that I think that proposal has poor ROI and felt its not a good deal, however after watching his videos, I have realized that he is doing a great job digging out facts and
presenting them in a very concise and understandable fashion, I feel Dash should try our best to support him, however we need to get a clear understanding of the spending and try and get a better deal for dash.
Having said that, please understand that I have never felt any rivalry with him ( back when the proposal was posted we had plenty of funds left in the Treasury) and I have no conflict of interest what so ever ( we are not targeting even same geographies tbh).
I have shared my displeasure on the proposal more than necessary and i regret making those excessive comments, I wish I could state my points in one or two comments and delete rest of them.
Budget Split and Milestones
1st month
Development Costs ( Only Android, $ 15,000, back-end dev, UI/UX dev, Testing, Support, Covered in the other proposal )
Marketing consultant: $4000 ( we are planning to various partnerships for various initiatives like dashinformer , Dash Venezuela , Remittance, dashnearby etc )
Develop and maintain an SMS one-time password (OTP) system (approximately $15000 per month )
Email hosting (approximately $2000 per month of the Term)
DashMaximaslist's salary: $7,500
With the remainder of the Funds, provide approximate $1 USD to each new user who signs up
or registers on the Website (cost varies depending on the price of Dash Digital Cash).
Obtain approximately 150,000 new users (depending on the price of Dash Digital Cash).
550 dash * $500 ( 30 day average price ) = $275,000
2nd Month
Development Costs ( Only Android, $ 15,000, back-end dev, UI/UX dev, Testing, Support, Covered in the other proposal )
Marketing consultant: $4000
Develop and maintain an SMS one-time password (OTP) system (approximately $15000 per month )
Email hosting (approximately $2000 per month of the Term)
DashMaximaslist's salary: $7,500
With the remainder of the Funds, provide approximate $1 USD to each new user who signs up
or registers on the Website (cost varies depending on the price of Dash Digital Cash).
Obtain approximately 150,000 new users (depending on the price of Dash Digital Cash).
550 dash * $500 ( 30 day average price ) = $275,000
Cost recovery for my Initial costs ( first half ) : $10,000
3rd Month
Development Costs : Android, $ 15,000 ,
back-end dev, UI/UX dev, Testing, Support, Covered $15,000 ( other proposal wont cover this month )
Marketing consultant: $4000
SMS one-time password (OTP) verification costs (approximately $15000 per month )
Email hosting (approximately $2000 per month of the Term)
DashMaximaslist's salary: $7,500
With the remainder of the Funds, provide approximate $1 USD to each new user who signs up
or registers on the Website (cost varies depending on the price of Dash Digital Cash).
Obtain approximately 150,000 new users (depending on the price of Dash Digital Cash).
550 dash * $500 ( 30 day average price ) = $275,000
Cost recovery for my Initial costs ( second half ) : $10,000
About me :
I am Krishna yogi aka dashmaximalist, I am a Dash masternode Owner and a very active member on the dash forum with 100s of posts as most of you know, i have created getfreedash.com and have spent over $20,000 ( i am planning to recover this amount in this proposal in the last 2 months )
before I posted the proposal for 150 dash
Other details to be followed soon!
Escrow sponsored by Dash Force News (@Mastermind ) link
Scaling this proposal to get 1 million users by giving $1 for every one who sign-ups.
Imagine various media outlets going gaga about Dash's 1 million sign-ups in a country suffering from hyperinflation providing much-needed legitimacy for
cryptocurrencies.
With Google and Facebook banning cryptocurrency ads, Getfreedash's peer to peer marketing strategy is much more relevant now and will remain as the
foundation for the many Dash Activities in Venezuela.
Thanks a lot for those who switched their NO votes to Yes, I am happy to answer all your concerns if any, you can also reach me on discord #mno-office
Dollar-to-dollar getfreedash is the most effective campaigns out there for raising Dash awareness.There are 200+ youtube videos promoting us https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=getfreedash.com%2Findex.phpWill quit my job if this proposal passes and will offer data analytics services as well
Actual Dash transactions list About 50,000 transactions Payment link.
why is Getfreedash so powerful?
"People spend months on seeing ads and learning about dash … but don’t actually download the wallet which is what we aim to change.”
GetFreeDash is doing an airdrop to everyone that signs up, you get $0.5 USD equivalent in Dash and another $0.5 USD equivalent in Dash for each friend that signs up using a referral link.
we aim to “sign up 1 million users and kick-start a local dash economy in Venezuela and we have the stats show our track record.
Sign up Stats
Google Analytics stats
100s of positive feedback received from various people including from people on the ground in Venezuela.
a few sample partnership requests
Pre-proposal links:
Current one:
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/75-000-users-and-counting-next-stop-1-million-users-if-you-support-us.30301/
Previous one:
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/dash-is-going-viral-in-venezuela-crossed-100-000-signups-need-your-support-urgent.28708/
why are we asking for additional 550 Dash when we have a parallel proposal running?
This obviously is one the first question that comes to any MNOs mind, let me answer.
we are running on running out of our daily scheduled funds of 5 dash very easily, we have a payout backlog of 7 days ( i.e if you sign up today you get paid in 5-7 days - this is of course mentioned when you request your withdrawal ) this is because we have a limited budget of 5 dash per day, As you can understand this is not an ideal situation. we have had multiple complaints from long-time getfreedash fans to pay the same day promising viral growth if we can do that.
This new proposal of 550 dash along with 150 dash gives us that much-needed breathing room, we will able to sign up 10-15000 users per day comfortably with the new money. we need to sign up at that pace if we desire to sign up 1 million people asap.
our payout management page ( snapshot on 16-March -- 6 days backlog)
Basics about Getfreedash?
Getfreedash offers a sign-up bonus and referral bonus, for Venezuela we offer $0.5 for sign up and $0.5 for referral paid in dash ofcourse , which means users
must download a dash wallet . So far the response has been breathtaking with over 120,000 sign ups in just 6 weeks of working. The plan for the future is to partner with local merchants , remittance providers and
freelancing companies, which are obviously very good use cases for using dash.
"Getfreedash has arguably created more buzz and awareness that would cost 10-20x more if you approached via Youtube Ads / Google ads or in fact any other marketing technique. "
Why are we focused on Venezuela?
Venezuela is undergoing one of the worst crisis in the world right now, the currency is depreciating 15% a week, people are exiting the country en masse which resulted in one of
the biggest remittance markets in the Americas. The really interesting info is not even this , Venezuela is one of the few countries which has an artificial currency peg with dollar,
which is much higher ( Bolivar per usd ) than the market rate, because of this when you send money through the official route like western union you get far lesser bolivar per usd,
As a result, people have been resorting to bitcoin heavily apparently as informed by our dear friend @javier ( Javier is a Venezuela resident who joined dash through getfreedash, he's been very supportive to me in giving various insights over current situation in Venezuela, he also referred 100s of his friends to getfreedash. )... check more details here
The current timing for dash is an absolutely awesome opportunity, Maduro has announced cryptocurrency to be used across all businesses in Venezuela, as he wants his crypto Petro to spread as well, please check this link to know more why this is an absolutely wonderful opportunity
All this means only one thing, The need for cryptocurrencies is exploding in this country, so far bitcoin has been a lifeline for many folks however owing to the high fees and unreliable speed, many have been forced back to their state currency bolivars, unfortunately. Getfreedash aims to change this, we are already one of the biggest crowd pullers for any Dash initiative in Venezuela and we aim to sign up few 100k users as soon as possible. With the big user bases we have, other initiatives like Dash Conferences etc can easily piggyback on the userbase.
Now imagine various media outlets going gaga about Dash's 1 million sign-ups in a country suffering from hyperinflation
How do we prevent fraud of same users claiming multiple times?
Controlling fraud is obviously our highest priority. Venezuela like many other developing countries have strict regulations when coming to SIM card ownership, they need your ID verification and only allow so many cards per person. There is also a cost of $1 associated with SIM cards since we are only paying $1 per user, we are eliminating the possibility of a single user claiming multiple times, we are other methods like IP address matching etc which act as a second layer protection.
The more advanced plan is to launch Android app and use various device-specific IDs to identify individual phones precisely.
what are our future plans?
we plan to launch a Getfreedash app very soon, this should ease out the signup process greatly and ensure that we are getting mobile savvy users, which is our primary target.
On the user side we want to acquire as many users in Venezuela as possible ( more initiatives are being planned), having said that , we want to extend this pay per sim card model to other developing countries where people are happy to sign up for receiving just $1 , Countries like Nigeria, Kenya, Philippines, India are in the pipeline , These countries also happen to have one of the biggest remittance markets in the world. The future plan is to integrate with some crypto remittance provider in the west to let them use dash a payment rail ( players like Arba etc). Apart from this, we will also partner with local e-commerce players and other businesses ( but we are getting too far now :) )
Clarification regarding conflict of interest with ben’s proposal
On ben’s proposal, i have stated that I think that proposal has poor ROI and felt its not a good deal, however after watching his videos, I have realized that he is doing a great job digging out facts and
presenting them in a very concise and understandable fashion, I feel Dash should try our best to support him, however we need to get a clear understanding of the spending and try and get a better deal for dash.
Having said that, please understand that I have never felt any rivalry with him ( back when the proposal was posted we had plenty of funds left in the Treasury) and I have no conflict of interest what so ever ( we are not targeting even same geographies tbh).
I have shared my displeasure on the proposal more than necessary and i regret making those excessive comments, I wish I could state my points in one or two comments and delete rest of them.
Budget Split and Milestones
1st month
Development Costs ( Only Android, $ 15,000, back-end dev, UI/UX dev, Testing, Support, Covered in the other proposal )
Marketing consultant: $4000 ( we are planning to various partnerships for various initiatives like dashinformer , Dash Venezuela , Remittance, dashnearby etc )
Develop and maintain an SMS one-time password (OTP) system (approximately $15000 per month )
Email hosting (approximately $2000 per month of the Term)
DashMaximaslist's salary: $7,500
With the remainder of the Funds, provide approximate $1 USD to each new user who signs up
or registers on the Website (cost varies depending on the price of Dash Digital Cash).
Obtain approximately 150,000 new users (depending on the price of Dash Digital Cash).
550 dash * $500 ( 30 day average price ) = $275,000
2nd Month
Development Costs ( Only Android, $ 15,000, back-end dev, UI/UX dev, Testing, Support, Covered in the other proposal )
Marketing consultant: $4000
Develop and maintain an SMS one-time password (OTP) system (approximately $15000 per month )
Email hosting (approximately $2000 per month of the Term)
DashMaximaslist's salary: $7,500
With the remainder of the Funds, provide approximate $1 USD to each new user who signs up
or registers on the Website (cost varies depending on the price of Dash Digital Cash).
Obtain approximately 150,000 new users (depending on the price of Dash Digital Cash).
550 dash * $500 ( 30 day average price ) = $275,000
Cost recovery for my Initial costs ( first half ) : $10,000
3rd Month
Development Costs : Android, $ 15,000 ,
back-end dev, UI/UX dev, Testing, Support, Covered $15,000 ( other proposal wont cover this month )
Marketing consultant: $4000
SMS one-time password (OTP) verification costs (approximately $15000 per month )
Email hosting (approximately $2000 per month of the Term)
DashMaximaslist's salary: $7,500
With the remainder of the Funds, provide approximate $1 USD to each new user who signs up
or registers on the Website (cost varies depending on the price of Dash Digital Cash).
Obtain approximately 150,000 new users (depending on the price of Dash Digital Cash).
550 dash * $500 ( 30 day average price ) = $275,000
Cost recovery for my Initial costs ( second half ) : $10,000
About me :
I am Krishna yogi aka dashmaximalist, I am a Dash masternode Owner and a very active member on the dash forum with 100s of posts as most of you know, i have created getfreedash.com and have spent over $20,000 ( i am planning to recover this amount in this proposal in the last 2 months )
before I posted the proposal for 150 dash
Other details to be followed soon!
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Discussion: Should we fund this proposal?
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"People spend months on seeing ads and learning about dash, but don’t actually download the wallet which is what we aim to change".
Sure my email is Getfreedash@gmail.com
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No voters please voice your concern so that we can answer them.
Literally a million people will ( well hopefully )get into dash .. Let's make that a reality .
Please express your concern so we can answer that
There are 200+ youtube videos promoting us https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=getfreedash.com%2Findex.php
please consider this, before you vote, thanks.
Put in a proposal when what we have already funded as run out.
As far as the merchant adoption goes they are other proposals that exclusively focusing on that , apart from that we have tons of businesses contacting us directly.
Please understand that getting users to sign up and getting them is arguably the hardest thing to do, once you have million folks using dash merchants will rush to accept us.
For some reason, we are supposed to do everything, figure out blockchain analysis, figure out if merchants are using dash and so much more... all these are separate million dollar proposals themselves.
I hope people understand dollar-to-dollar getfreedash is the most effective campaigns out there that raise awareness about dash if not there will not be 200+ youtube videos promoting us https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=getfreedash.com%2Findex.php
However, as I MNO, for each new proposal, I have to ask myself the question what the benefit of funding it is and how this compares in relation to the requested funds and to other proposals. For this, it is in the duty of the proposal owner to explain what the benefits of a proposal is and to justify them.
Just distributing free dash to people is not enough at some point. It was fine as an experiment at low expense. Questions that I would like to have answers for before scaling the distributions up:
- Do the people receiving the money actually understand what DASH is?
- What happens to the free DASH? Do people keep it, transfer it to friend, pay things with it, convert it to fiat?
- Where is DASH accepted in Venezuela? Does the free distribution increase adoption?
- How confident are we that we have reached X new people so far (were there attempts of multi-signup)?
Providing some information about these questions will help to assess what the impact is. Answering all questions exactly would be very hard. But at least do an attempt on it. I am fine adding a salary for this work (either in a separate proposal or as part of the new proposal).
1)Lot of our users ( 90% of them ) are using uphold because of zero fees within uphold. I suspect the us of Uphold is because it's easy to withdraw into their currency of choice.
Answer given by you here:
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/dash-is-going-viral-in-venezuela-crossed-100-000-signups-need-your-support-urgent.28708/page-6#post-173401
2) I think we need to focus more on merchant adoption, without places to spend Dash, its only logical that people are going to cash out imminently, however if Dash increase in price, lots of people will also say Damn it why did i cash it out so quickly ! (aka a learning experience)
3) I think the best way approach this is by doing this a teaser, I don't think a bigger give away especially short term will increase use, things need to be learned and build out.
4) I think the referral profit equal to the initial sign-up is not correct, it should be something like 50% or less, in fact I think that allot close to the standard used in these types of promotion campaign's
5) Limiting, the action to maximum of 300.000 people, will only further increase desire into Dash, Plenty of big brands in fact use this strategy, nothing sells better than an "limited" edition/time/etc.
To conclusion, we need to focus on people keeping and using Dash, otherwise we are just bleeding funds into people that desperately need
currency, which is not Dash but happily take that free lunch in the currency of there choice. We don't run a charity here, and if we do Dash will certainly lose more and more of its marketing cap.
The whole point of this exercise is to 'raise awareness about dash' in this country and get them to use it at least once ( most people agree that using crypto is extremely hard ) which is arguably the toughest part. Trying to raise this level of awarness and usage from other Marketing methods like Youtube ads or Google ads would easily cost 10-20x more.
have you ever thought about no of users downloading a dash wallet and using it for any of the other proposals, do they have any stats to support that?
Merchant adoption is already happening, most of the users have been referred by merchants themselves as they have huge networks etc.
4) referral profit % is working out great, that's the reason we have some of the biggest viral growth dash has ever seen.
5) limited edition doesn't work here because we are giving away funds, referral marketing only works as long we pay people, once we stop it, no one would want to refer others right.
I think the conclusion is also wrongly assumed, getfreedash has arguably created more buzz and awareness that would cost 10-20x more if you approached via Youtube Ads or Google ads or in fact any other marketing technique ( i would be happy to be challenged on this) .
There are 200+ youtube videos promoting us https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=getfreedash.com%2Findex.php
please consider this, before you vote, thanks.
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/75-000-users-and-counting-next-stop-1-million-users-if-you-support-us.30301/page-2#post-175970
This is not a fraud behaviour per se. There are lot of people who refer a lot of them and we process all the amount in one shot. Hence the reason for more than $0.5
In fact some of them have referred 100s of folks so they a lot more money obviossly.
Trying to decrease the no of txns ( which will change from next month ), we have mandated a minimum of $1 for second time withdrawal on
Many investors correlate price to # of transactions on the network, if this increases the price, then it increases our treasury budget which I think we need more of based on the number of proposals this month!
By next month , we will have transactions happenening indivually instead of batches , I promise :).
I happy to contribute to the growth of dash price by pushing as many transactions to the dash network that investors will find interesting.
The data is there to analyse how effective these Dash giveaways are, and it would really strengthen the argument to scale this up and expand geographically if the analysis shows really good results. Do you agree?
At the moment you seem to be creating a sense of urgency about this whole Venezuela giveaway and pushing for more and more funds without taking time step back and reflect on how things are going, no matter how well meaning it is, this is a dangerous and reckless approach in my opinion.
I think this proposal (and future requests) would receive much more support if you could come to the MNOs with some stats generated from the data that show that this is working as intended. A $1m giveaway is pointless if half of it ends up on poloniex or something.. but conversely it could be a wonderful opportunity if the data shows that this is kick-starting and generating real organic uptake and usage of Dash in the Venezuelan economy... But we don't know either way at the moment do we?
We're getting a lot of hype and focus on the headline number of signups, but we're not getting anything concrete that shows that this funding is jump-starting something much bigger, as is claimed. The data is there (120,000 records) and you're a Data Scientist, let's make it happen. :-)
Unfortunately, I'm going to vote no on this proposal until we have some solid feedback in terms of what is going on with the Dash we're giving away. Without this understanding and insight we are just hitting and hoping. That's not the way to do things..
Walter
however, there are a lot of issues that prevent any meaningful results
firstly because uphold offers zero txn fees and instant transfers lot of our users are using uphold ( or similar services like polo ) which means we can track whats going on per se. Secondly, unless we also have tie-ups with businesses in Venezuela etc we cant know exactly where they are spending, so basically blockchain based analysis is not a practical one to do, and it borders on privacy invasion.
what we should rather focus on the buzz that is created on-ground ( we have plenty of evidence from various folks appreciating our initiative ) and the response we get for partnerships like remittance, freelancers, e-commerce sites ( in the future ).
should we sign up 1 million folks, that's a massive database which many businesses would be happy to partner with , that's where the real value lies.
for example, we just send an email asking people( about 5000 ) to refer any businesses that are looking to accept Dash ( as suggested by Mark https://twitter.com/StayDashy/status/973969806822133762?s=19 ) and we have got some great response already.
Anyway, I've aired my concerns and nothing you've said so far has answered them, they still stand. You'll be pleased to know that I have no further questions.
:-)
Walter
1) This project was funded 150 Dash per month for 3 months starting 19 days ago. There is nothing in the project's own numbers that support the need for an additional 550 Dash per month other than the project owner's desire to "scale up".
2) This project makes payments manually. The project reports payments from a static spreadsheet created manually. That is not in line with "Scaling up".
3) This project is neither the first nor the only current project that gives Dash to people in Venezuela. However, it is the most expensive by far and the additional amount it is seeking is, in my opinion, grotesquely excessive.
4) This project offers nothing to keep the person interested in Dash over the long-term.
5) This project pays people amounts based in US dollars.
6) Last month, the proposal owner assured MNOs that SMS verification was good enough to prevent fraud, but now he wants the Dash community to pay for further development for better fraud prevention. If it was good enough 19 days ago, it should be good enough now.
7) There is nothing in this project that will prevent people from organizing to pay others to receive the SMS message and collect the Dash ensuring that the real person who got the SMS is just getting paid in Bolivares and never understanding what Dash is. The fact that the program offers a premium for referrals only makes matters worse because the perpetrator will get paid twice.
1) I am not sure whether you have been involved in many marketing campaigns but basically, that's how scaling works, first you test an idea and see if it works and then scale it up.
2) we are in the process of doing transactions automatically, unfortunately, there aren't any easy DASH APIs to integrate, we are in touch with few developers expect this feature to be rolled out soon ( also remember we are only in the first month of our proposal period, so cant expect everything to happen )
3) getfreedash is arguably the cheapest ( by at least 100x compared to many other proposals which cant even confirm that users actually downloaded a dash wallet) when you consider the user base that have signed up.
4) I think you havent paid attention to all the discussions that went so far, we have lot of plans to engage users over long-term.
5) Dash market cap is 0.00001% of US Dollar , people obviously recognize US dollar much much more than Dash, changing that takes time and lot of efforts like getfreedash
6) SMS is good, the new Android strategy will be better, I don't understand why that is an issue.
7) Every strategy starts somewhere and getfreedash is not perfect, what we are doing is creating a lot of buzz, lot of awareness and a lot of action ( downloads ) ( the action part is missing in almost all other proposals ) at one of the lowest costs ever. Now everyone who signs up also has a choice of referring others and earning dash and most people do this, which means they do get an understanding of dash.
All the big things we wish to happen needs to start from something simple and they take time, all we can do is to make sure we have a proper plan of action and keep measuring the responses to make sure we are on the right path.
That being said. You've got the best and first solution to get Dash in to people's hands. Whether or not that is something we as the DAO want to continue doing will probably depend on the metrics (i.e. whether handing out $0.50 to new users has a meaningful effect on Dash adoption/use/price/etc), but given the other pushes in the area, I think this can only benefit and augment our other efforts.
So you've got my support this time, but reconsider the way you conduct yourself if you want to continue to be funded here on out.
Do I have a privileged status? no way man, please explain how i do...
Also, let me clarify one thing to everyone, I AM NOT MAKING A MILLION DOLLARS FROM GETFREEDASH, The net Personal income I receive from Getfreedash is big negative $$$, I have spent $20,000 so far and countless hours perfecting the website talking with developers and patiently replied to countless and seemingly endless barrage of questions, All for what ?? you tell me.. do the math and please explain me if i make a lot of money,
like I said previously I am a pretty successful data scientist with a very high Daily rate and happy with my day job and a passive MNO status, what do I get by risking that for a 3-Month gig that is not a value-add to my CV?
I swear that the only thing I will get back is the satisfaction that getfreedash will introduce a stable currency to millions of people who are getting crushed by a currency with hyper-inflation.
You can't in one post say "Hi folks , please express your concerns if you have any ..."
Then in another post berate the MNOs for doing just that.. That's how it comes across anyway.
Yes I happy to have additional scrutiny as long as it's related to the project...
Anyway, I don't think MNOs have concerns about you personally benefiting from getfreedash, you are entitled to be rewarded for your efforts.
However, I do agree with the other MNOs that it may be appropriate to be slightly less vocal in the criticism of other proposals, as their is a slight conflict of interest.
I realize you are doing this project at a loss and I'm very grateful for that. I believe the MNOs will pass this, and I look forward to further adoption in Venezuela.
Apart from that we try to automate as many things as possible
We are also rolling out automatic payments and email marketing soon
Many other ideas are being planned.
Voting yes.
Solarguy
You have done: 57,370 transactions to 48,818 distinct Dash Addresses. I did the work that you should have done by putting it into a searchable, clickable database table:
http://dash.lol/gfd_txns.html
Now anyone can go through the Dash Addresses to see where the money went. Many of these addresses are clearly not people who are recieving Dash for the first time.
You say you are doing from 2000 to 3000 transactions per day. Some days, you do many more than that, but according to your own records, you are averaging 1850 transactions per day (Feb 3 - Mar 5).
Your average transaction is $0.74 USD. Lets say you do 2500 transactions per day every day for 30 days. Value: $55,500 USD per month or about 129 Dash. You just got funded for 150 Dash!!
I would like you to answer these questions:
1) How can you be sure that after rolling out your Android app for better verification your sign ups don't drop to a fraction of what they are now?
2) if you are MANUALLY making 2000 to 3000 payments per day, when do you sleep?
3) How much Dash do you pay to each new sign up?
4) How much do you pay to an account that refers a new sign up?
5) Other than signing up and existing in your database, what does the website offer people?
Now to answer your others questions
Android signs and web sign ups running parallely ( we don't stop web right away ) , we want to study how and Android sign ups work so that we can try other countries when required.
About my sleep :) ,I sleep lesser because of all the dash work but it's not very bad , we process the payments in a batch of 500 not one at a time :)
I also suggest you go through the pre-proposal link on the top so that you can get the full picture. Having said that we pay $0.5 per sign up and $0.5 for referral in venezuela. In other countries we need to pay higher like $1 and $1.
Right now we show a video of how dash works when they sign up , in future we plan to integrate dash academy videos.
In the long future the plan is to partner with remittance and freelance companies.
We are being offered kindle to spark change that will affect generations to come. Let's have Dash be the vector of that cryptocurrency movement.
https://www.messagebird.com/en/verify
https://www.messagebird.com/en/sms/pricing
This company will charge $0.022 per SMS sent. That's $19,800 on the 900,000 account signups you're targeting. You can hooks straight into them via an API. $45,000 to develop and maintain a system seems like a lot of effort when you can get off the shelf for less than 50% of the cost?
I have cut down my salary to half as I am passionate about dash
https://www.indeed.co.uk/salaries/Senior-Data-Analyst-Salaries-at-Royal-Mail
Even the highest stats at indeed.co.uk show salary for this role below £6,000 per month at Royal Mail PLC, with the average being around £3,800 per month. I don't mean to be rude but your claimed salary level of £10,000 a month is very hard to believe... Also advertisements for similar jobs at other organisations I've found on google are priced at the same rate that indeed.co.uk reports.
Why would Royal Mail pay you way more than the market rate?
The problem I have now is that I could believe that you actually earn $7000 a month once provided with some extra details about your background etc... And your Linked In profile backs this up nicely as $7000 a month is the going rate for a Senior Data Scientist.
Now your telling me you earn twice that... I find it impossible to believe, especially when google's big search engine doesn't back up your claim.
But we are getting slightly off topic .
For the amount of salary you're asking for MNO's should expect you to be offering to use your Data Scientist knowledge/skills to provide full data analytics of your efforts at getfreedash. Data crunching is right in your wheelhouse, so why is it not an integral part of this proposal and the previous one?
I've heard you state that free giveways are the best way to grow a network and that Paypal used to give $10 free when signing up? The difference between this and paypal though is that in exchange for $10 'free money' you were giving paypal the ability to collect huge amounts of data about your spending habits and all aspects of your existence. This data is invaluable. For Paypal, $10 was a price worth paying for such data. What are we getting in return for the free signups we're targetting?
This sort of giveaway is a massive missed opportunity unless we're able to get meaningful information from the metadata and block-chain data you should be collecting during the process.
Could you expand on what plans you have in that regard? Is this actually just a free money drop or are we going to get some meaningful and useful insight into how Dash may be used by the masses in the future?
Walter
As if now our primary focus is user acquisition and product partnerships . Once we acquire good numbers of users we can focus on data analytics and blockchain analysis.
We would use data analytics to prevent fraud and understand spending patterns and various things like customer experience etc.
But everything starts with data collection and lots of it :)
It’s a statistically significant sample in any field of analytics.
Walter
Here's their price list:
https://aws.amazon.com/ses/pricing/
So $6,000 to send 5 million emails isn't even close, even taking into account inbound emails (they cost the same) you'll do well to spend more than $1000 in total on email hosting during the whole campaign.
You'll also need to be very careful about sending out such a large volume of emails from a new domain/address. It's very easy to end up blacklisted on all the major spam protection services.
1) How can you be sure that telephone SIMs are a good way to prove that the money is going to unique individuals? If it was so good a month ago, then why would you need an Android App now?
2) How can you be sure that after rolling out your Android app for better verification your sign ups don't drop to a fraction of what they are now?
3) How much Dash do you pay to each new sign up?
4) How much do you pay to an account that refers a new sign up?
5) How many payments do you make per day? Are payments made manually or by the system?
6) Can you show a list of transactions with links to a blockchain explorer for transparency?
7) Wasn't 150 Dash per month enough? Did you not plan carefully enough? How much have you paid out?
8) Other than signing up and existing in your database, what does the website offer people?
Basically, telephone SIM card eliminates fraud in developing countries (because the sim cards are not free ) , Android app will idea any where.
Now once we roll out android app , we wont stop web sign ups in Venezuela, both will continue parallelly.
Android sign ups will get $1 for sign up , $1 for referral , where as web sign ups in Venezuela currently get $0.5 for sign up and $0,5 for referral
right now we make about 2000-3000 payments per day and its done manually ( which will be automated next month )
heres the link of dash payments http://bit.ly/dashpayments ( not updated to the date )
150 dash is enough if we want to limit the sign ups to 3000 per day , but we want to sign up 1 million folks , which means we need to sign up 15000 per day.
please visiting the website once getfreedash.com right now we prompt people to play games on dash.read and read dash news on dash force news.
In future, we want to promote various dash based use cases like remittance, freelancing etc ...
Please show some transparency. Can you provide a list of transactions with links to a blockchain explorer?
Long story short, we don't have more than 10% fraud at the most ( we think its more like 3-5% ) , that only cost us 10 cents at the most, however, we are rolling out facial recognition soon, that will scare most fraudsters.
Once we roll out Android app, we won't have more than 1% fraud at the worst and can scale to any country as well.
its more like 0-5% and is from big internet cafes that are signing up 100s of people and we are seeing a lot of same IP addresses, this even though is not probably fraud, having unique IP address implies no fraud at all
I strongly believe we will see a 2nd stage of cryptocurrency surge again, but this time it will be based around real world use. Not a buying speculative frenzy, but an adoption frenzy. This world moves so fast because it works so wonderfully with the internet. One of the most promising hotbed of adoption is Venezuelans .