Proposal “getfreedash4venezuela“ (Active)Back

Title:Getfreedash for venezuela - 140,000 sign ups and counting, Dash going Viral in Venezuela , Thanks everyone for your Support !!!
Owner:dashmaximalist
Monthly amount: 150 DASH (55423 USD)
Completed payments: 2 totaling in 300 DASH (1 month remaining)
Payment start/end: 2018-02-17 / 2018-05-17 (added on 2018-02-20)
Final voting deadline: in passed
Votes: 680 Yes / 485 No / 46 Abstain
Will be funded: No. This proposal needs additional 281 Yes votes to become funded.
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Proposal description

25000 140,000 Sign-ups and counting, Dash is going Viral in Venezuela , needs your support

Escrow sponsored by Dash core ( link  )

https://i.imgur.com/uo6lzkS.png
40 Dash and counting 

i would like to thank all those brave souls who have supported us by donating/loaning dash to our cause , without which i would not be so motivated as i am today. 
As you all know we have been stopping/slowing sign ups for the lack of funds , but with the new funds , we can run our sign ups at a good speed. 

Dash core has agreed to loan us  more dash should this proposal pass, so i request all of you to Vote yes ,so we can run Getfreedash at Rocket Speed.


PRE-PROPOSAL discussion link


hi i am krishna yogi aka dashmaximalist , I am a Dash masternode Owner and a very active member on the dash forum with 100s of posts  
as most of you know , i have created getfreedash.com and have even made a proposal for the same , unfortunately it failed to pass though despite getting almost 99% positive comments (some say because the amount requested was high at 250 dash per month others say its was buried deep in the proposal lot https://www.dash.org/forum/styles/default/xenforo/clear.png ) , however i continued the site with my own money and spent over $15,000 

After lot of experimentation and tweaking around, we finally cracked it, we are getting tons of traffic from venezuela, almost 2000-3000 sign ups per day, since sim cards are not free and cost $1 or more to get in Venezuela, most of the sign ups are individual folks ( not hackers ) , we have checked the IP addresses and time stamps all point to unique user behaviour.

one a side note , Owning to the hyperinflation in Venezuela $1 is average weekly pay hence people are still showing lot of interest for the giveaway.

As a testimony to our success has been over 90 youtube videos have been created that are engaged in spreading Getfreedash.com
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=getfreedash.com/index.php 
( now this proves that unique users are claiming free dash instead of just a bunch of hackers )

Merchant adoption in Venezuela 

lot of businesses are offering free stuff for the customers once they sign up using their referral https://www.dash.org/forum/posts/168037
we are also seeing some ecommerce merchants using dash for regular business like here https://www.dash.org/forum/posts/169137/
Once we sign up a half million folks , dash will be unstoppable in Venezuela

( more details coming soon ) 

Budget  Split and Milestones

1st month 

Monthly Development + Support budget:  $15,000 ( back-end dev, UI/UX dev, Testing , Support, APP development  & Explainer Videos  )
Develop and maintain a SMS one time password (OTP) system (approximately $5000 per month
of the Term).
 Develop and maintain an email mailbox (approximately $100 per month of the Term)
 With the remainder of the Funds, provide approximate $1 USD to each new user who signs up
or registers on the Website (cost varies depending on the price of Dash Digital Cash).
Obtain approximately 50,000 new users (depending on the price of Dash Digital Cash).
150 dash * $700  ( 30 day average price )  = $125,000


2nd Month 

Monthly Development + Support budget:  $15,000 ( back-end dev, UI/UX dev, Testing , Support, APP development  & Explainer Videos  )
Develop and maintain a SMS one time password (OTP) system (approximately $5000 per month
of the Term).
 Develop and maintain an email mailbox (approximately $100 per month of the Term)
 With the remainder of the Funds, provide approximate $1 USD to each new user who signs up
or registers on the Website (cost varies depending on the price of Dash Digital Cash).
Obtain approximately 50,000 new users (depending on the price of Dash Digital Cash).
150 dash * $700  ( 30 day average price )  = $125,000

3rd Month  

Monthly Development + Support budget:  $15,000 ( back-end dev, UI/UX dev, Testing , Support, APP development  & Explainer Videos  )
Develop and maintain a SMS one time password (OTP) system (approximately $5000 per month
of the Term).
 Develop and maintain an email mailbox (approximately $100 per month of the Term)
 With the remainder of the Funds, provide approximate $1 USD to each new user who signs up
or registers on the Website (cost varies depending on the price of Dash Digital Cash).
Obtain approximately 50,000 new users (depending on the price of Dash Digital Cash).
150 dash * $700  ( 30 day average price )  = $125,000

Why are we focused on Venezuela ?


Venezuela in under going one of the worst crisis in the world right now, the currency is depreciating 15% a week , people are exiting the country enmasse which resulted in one of the biggest remittane market in the Americas.  That's not all Venezuela has pegged currency with an official and unofficial dollar exchange rate , withe the unoffical one being much more attractive for remmittances ... check  more details here 

The current timing for dash is an absolutely awesome oppurtunity , Maduro has announced cryptocurrency to be used across all businesses in venezuela , as he wants his crypto Petro to spread  as well, please check this link to know more why this is an absolutely wonderful opportunity  

All this means only one thing , The need for crypto currencies is exploding in this country , so far bitcoin has been a life line for many folks however owing to the high fees and unrealiable speed , many have been forced back to their state currency bolivars unfortunately . Getfreedash aims to change this , we are already one of the biggest crowd pullers for any Dash intiative in Venezuela and we aim to sign up few 100k users as soon as possible. With the big user bases we have, other intitatives like Dash Conferences etc can easily piggy back on userbase.

How do we prevent fraud of same users claiming multiple times ?

Venezuela like many other developing countries have strict regulations when coming to SIM card ownership, they need your ID verification and only allow so many cards per person. There is also a cost of $1 associated with SIM cards , since we are only paying $1 per user , we are eliminating the possibility of single user claiming multiple times , we are other  methods like IP address matching etc  which act as a second layer protection.


 what are our future plans ? 

we plan to launch a Getfreedash app very soon ,this should ease out the sign up process greatly and ensure that we are getting mobile savvy users , which is our primary target.

On the user side we want acquire as many users in Venezuela as possible ( more initiatives are being planned )  , having said that , we want extend this pay per sim card model to other developing countries where people are happy to sign up for receiving just $1 , Countries like Nigeria , Kenya , Philippines , India are in the pipeline , These countries also happen to have one of the biggest remittance markets in the world. The future plan is to integrate with some crypto remittance provider in west to let them use dash a payment rail  ( players like Arba etc ) . Apart from this we will also partners with local e-commerce players and other businesses ( but we are getting too far now :) )

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Discussion: Should we fund this proposal?

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0 points,8 days ago
Can we get cross post information in these requests for all the venezuela proposals and requests and how they relate to each other?
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1 point,23 days ago
Dash Watch April 28th 2018 Report on
Getfreedash for venezuela by dashmaximalist
https://dashwatch.org/files/1524994176603.pdf
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4 points,26 days ago
I would just like to reiterate what macrochip and ec1warc1 have already said, I feel strongly that we should not be funding this projects anymore, for multiple reasons. Do be sure to review the relevant forum thread if you haven't done so already.
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0 points,26 days ago
can you show any other project which has 200+ vidoes made https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=getfreedash.com%2Findex.php ??
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0 points,26 days ago
I respect your opinion, but please understand Getfreedash is pulling in massive crowds to the system, now we have doubled down on fighting fraud, so it's more efficient now.
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2 points,27 days ago
After much thought, I have changed my vote to NO on this proposal in the hopes that it will be defunded. The proposal owner has not provided sufficient transparency to keep me interested in this project.

I encourage MNOs to read the thread posted by Macrochip on the dash.org/forum entitled "GetFreeDash campaign must be stopped ASAP" and decide for themselves.
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1 point,29 days ago
hi all

I am happy to inform that, we have frozen all the accounts that we suspected of fraud, rolled back their transaction and the process is now complete.

We have also cleared the transaction back-log, so going forward, payments will be really quick ( the same day as things stand ).

Sorry for all the trouble caused to the people in Venezuela who had to wait while fought the fraudsters.
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8 points,1 month ago
Extremely important message from Edward that needs to be posted here as well:
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There have been at least ten red flags regarding the getfreedash proposals:

RED FLAG #1: 150 Dash was more than it needed to be.
RED FLAG #2: An additional 550 Dash was requested two weeks after the first proposal was funded. The request was made too quickly after the success of the first proposal.
RED FLAG #3: A static spreadsheet of transactions was provided as evidence of work done. If no analysis is done, one could conclude that it was a lot of transactions and a great expense. A brief analysis proved otherwise: 57,370 transactions to 48,818 distinct Dash Addresses, for a total of approximately $42,651.50 USD. This was the evidence provided to support the need for 550 additional Dash per month.
RED FLAG #4: This project does all of its accounting in USD, making it impossible to know how much dash has been given away.
RED FLAG #5: Getfreedash.com sends transactions in batches, not one by one. A promise was made to change this.
RED FLAG #6: People have been complaining that they are not getting paid and that the people that they have referred to the program are also not getting paid. This even though the website claims that payments have been made to these members. Numerous complaints sent to the “approved channels of communication” have been ignored by the proposal owner. This has been going on since the project received its second payment of 150 Dash.
RED FLAG #7: Getfreedash.com implements a referral program which pays amounts that are encouraging to fraudsters.
RED FLAG #8: No successes or milestones have been posted by the proposal owner.
RED FLAG #9: You can only sign up for an account on getfreedash.com if you live in particular countries such as Venezuela. You must have a cellphone in one of those countries. This makes it impossible to independently verify that the website is doing what is promises to do.

It is possible that RED FLAG #6 explains why the proposal owner has come forward with news of a “major fraud” estimated by him to have resulted in improper payouts of $10,000 USD. Whatever the case, the event of “major fraud” is RED FLAG #10.
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1 point,28 days ago
Only #6 is worth answering .. Yes there are delays because we are busy in fixing fraud without hurting genuine accounts that's a lot of work .. Also some people have referred fraudsters ( knowingly or unknowingly ) and their balances are now decreased so they are complaining.

About the payments we have now cleared all pending withdrawals with zero left so from now on things will be super quick
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1 point,29 days ago
RED FLAG #11: The proposal owner is attempting to clone getfreedash.com to Smartcash and sell it to that community
RED FLAG #12: The proposal owner has remained silent since April 19, even though he clearly knows about the concerns of the Dash community posted in the thread in Dash.org/forum
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0 points,25 days ago
Red Flag 11 seems unforgivable, unless smartcash is paying Dash for it
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8 points,1 month ago
Voting no because of the unbelievable rudeness of blaming MNOs for the fraud.
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0 points,27 days ago
how exactly? please elucidate it ..
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0 points,24 days ago
Are you not cryptoridez?

According to the screenshot on https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/getfreedash-campaign-must-be-stopped-asap.36703/ you said

"This incident highlights the necessity for continuous fraud monitoring of data which we lack currently ( owing to the rejection of our second proposal)"

From the very beginning I assumed that people would be taking advantage of this but you were oh so sure that it was impossible because SIM cards are more expensive than the amount you are giving away.
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7 points,1 month ago
!!IMPORTANT UPDATE!!

https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/getfreedash-campaign-must-be-stopped-asap.36703/
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-3 points,1 month ago
Get-free-dash is one of the most cost-effective proposals to on-board new Dash users, assuming the fraudulent accounts can be detected and prevented. The proposal owner should present and implement a plan to decrease fraud so we can continue to support this proposal.
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0 points,29 days ago
Thanks a lot , get free dash is indeed the most cost-effective and fighting fraud is obviously very important for that. we have made great progress in that aspect and are monitoring the data almost real-time.

I can give great confidence to the community this time that fraud on a large scale will not repeat as we have even laid some traps to catch fraudsters this time. obviously you can eliminate the fraud completely as every one understands , but we are constantly pushing the limit.

thanks for your understanding
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3 points,1 month ago
Cost effective how?

Can you prove that the 140k signups are real people (or at least an overwhelming supermajority)? Can you prove that it increases adoption and usage of Dash?

Because if you can't prove any of that you can't reasonably declare it "cost effective", least of all "one of the most" cost effective when you lack the data to back up such a statement. So far this campagin had no effect on transactions per day nor active wallets per day, despite such an effect is most likely to be expected from this proposal in particular. If you give people Dash you expect them to use. Didn't happen.
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0 points,28 days ago
Do you also consider dash becoming Venezuela s national currency as a important indicator of our success ??

Our mandate is pulling in people which we have ...go to YouTube and type getfreedash and tell me if any other proposal has so many videos talking about them

About 140k we already said 40 k are suspected of fraud the rest are mostly genuine, you are welcome to help us in catching fraudsters if you want. But I am guessing you are probably not interested in that ...
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-2 points,1 month ago
I see a lot of votes converted to NO already, which is a real knee-jerk reaction.

I personally think it would be absolutely foolish to stop this project now that we have spent so time and have much more understanding or user behavior and ability to control fraud.

I am already very frustrated with almost the constant hate that I have put with up with absolutely nothing in return, if the project gets defunded, I will get out of DASH once forever ... thanks.
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2 points,1 month ago
"Constant hate"? "Nothing in return"? Are you high? You got 300 Dash and when you ran out of money because you gave away too much too fast you asked for upfront payment from the community WHICH YOU GOT.
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0 points,28 days ago
300 dash doesn't go to my pocket , you must be crazy or accusing me of total fraud

In The second proposal I have requested for 7000 USD salary which failed to pass

So ya I get nothing per se
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3 points,1 month ago
I recommend that you call a sample of the phone numbers you collected to verify that they are owned by actual people and that those people can confirm that they participated in your giveaway. Please report back with the results of what percentage of the sample was able to confirm.
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4 points,1 month ago
cool story bro.... if ur in it for the free money, im switching my votes to no. I dont support the treasury being used in this way. You went to smartcash and market them as well, i dont have a problem with it; just wont support it. if u sell ur nodes thats up to u. u can fund ur business however u like.
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0 points,27 days ago
you are free to vote NO, but don't make accusations without a shred of proof, we have always been transparent, please check the transaction ids, on a side note, the smartest way to pocket money would be to not report any fraud and pretend that things are perfect...
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2 points,1 month ago
also, giving people free money doesnt do anything but give them something to sell on the open market, which means more dash for sale... Why not actually have them earn it, do something provable?
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3 points,1 month ago
Any updates here? What is the total wallet count now? How is fraud prevention going?
Thanks
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0 points,2 months ago
Happy to see reports of high demand for this.

Can any MNO verify having tried out the site with a compatible phone and it working as advertised?
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0 points,1 month ago
hi there , right now we only support Venezuela 's phone number , however if an MNO wants to test it , we can whitelist that particular number
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1 point,2 months ago
Why is this not up and running again yet? The superblock payment was made days ago...

You are going to lose momentum with your website if you're down too long.
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3 points,2 months ago
yes unfortunately ...we have an escrow with dash core , and ryan is super busy apparently we are yet to receive the funding yet !! once we get that we will get back up to full speed !
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4 points,2 months ago
Wow... I am never voting on another proposal with Dash Core escrow again. This is shameful.
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0 points,2 months ago
hey hi , happy to let you know that we recieved the money now , so we are good for the month, however we want to make it bigger and so next month planning to launch a proposal for 500 dash
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0 points,2 months ago
Sort of .. they are swamped with work especially Ryan , they are hiring a cfo who would lessen the load .. but ya better to get escrow from others especially from those whose sole job is escrow like green candle etc..
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0 points,2 months ago
I want to see this Getfreedash program even BIGGER and in more countries, but Venezuela is absolutely a perfect fit right now. Terrific.
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-1 point,2 months ago
A bigger proposal is now posted , don't forget to vote Yes
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-1 point,2 months ago
yes we are proposing a new bigger proposal soon for about 500 dash per month so we can sign up few million users
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1 point,2 months ago
Marvelous work!
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-1 point,2 months ago
Thanks for your support !!
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0 points,2 months ago
Costa Rica voting YES
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0 points,2 months ago
Thansks for your support !!
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-1 point,2 months ago
Easy yes for me too. I'm stoked at the help the abused people of Venezuela will be getting from the Dash network!
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-1 point,2 months ago
Thanks a lot for your support, helping Venezuelans indeed is my main motivation
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1 point,2 months ago
It's yes votes from me mate. spreading DASH throughout a country that's current money is broken will hopefully get the entire country using and excepting DASH through necessity.
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0 points,2 months ago
Indeed, that's our primary objective so far we are doing pretty good .. but we will be launching a bigger campaign and we will need your support for that as well
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1 point,2 months ago
Side question is their any way we can track these transactions over the blockchain ?
I normally use this but that all traffic:
https://bitinfocharts.com/
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0 points,2 months ago
Yes of course we release all the payment info dash forum please check that
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0 points,2 months ago
What I am realising that there are many DASH projects that can work together and in so doing will have a greater impact than working alone. e.g. There is high traffic specifically for new DASH users to this website. We could therefore also host DASH training on this site. People will be getting DASH from this site then they can learn about it what it is and how to use it from the training. There is another proposal open at the moment called "Dash Academy"
https://www.dashcentral.org/p/Dash-Academy

The Dash Academy proposal will produce ultra high quality interactive training courses for DASH. The DASH academy courses could be hosted on this high traffic site and we would be educating our new users on what DASH is all about. If you have not yet voted MNO take a look at DASH academy proposal. This could compliment this campaign and the DASH HELP Centre campaign.

It looks like this GET FREE DASH and the DASH HELP Venezuela projects are going through and these projects also support each other since the DASH HELP Venezuela project said that they would help promote this campaign. The high quality training also complements both of these projects. We need to see how these different DASH projects can work and support each other. In this way we can get much greater impact on converting people to using DASH and feeling confident about what DASH is all about.

This proposal is fantastic and I can't wait to see how many new DASH user signups we are going to get with this proposal.
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0 points,2 months ago
Yes absolutely we all plan to collaborate with each other indeed
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0 points,2 months ago
MNO Australia.
As long as you can do your best with fraud vectors. Voting YES

"we have also asked a for selfie to be taken just like you , we plan to use facial recognition to identify unique users , we also do cookie finger printing and ip address matching so roughly speaking we are sure 95% of accounts are unique ,i think thats a good number for our initiative ( you can eliminate 100% fraud but that would make it very very difficult for users to sign up ). Having said that our next goal is to introduce a getfreedash app which would easy up the process greatly." - Great stuff.
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0 points,2 months ago
Thanks for your support
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0 points,2 months ago
Happy to inform that we have partnership arrangements with the Venezuelan team as well as Dashinformer both of which create a powerful ecosystem for Dash's continuing growth in Venezuela..
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0 points,2 months ago
Thanks everyone forever for making our proposal pass, now the real hard work begins , stay tuned for exciting updates from us
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2 points,2 months ago
I think is important and responsible for me to express my skepticism of this proposal. I have a unique perspective in that I run the website Dash.red.

Dash.red is also giving away Dash to its members. Dash.red has been online since August 19, 2017. We are supported by the Dash DAO. Our #1 country is Venezuela by a wide margin. Our top 3 counties for Dash.red are: 2052 members from Venezuela, 292 from Brazil, 57 from Colombia.

Dash.red has almost 3000 verified users, and by verified, I mean each user had to create a video and make a statement that he/she would only create one account. We also have exactly 25,033 unverified accounts, almost all of which were created out of Venezuela. Why? Before we implemented video verification, people saw an opportunity to make more Dash by creating more accounts.

Here is what has me skeptical about getfreedash.com:
1) where do you expect to get 50,000 accounts per month? Even when Dash.red had no account verification, we accumulated fewer than 30,000 accounts in our first 5 months and we were giving away roughly $0.30USD of Dash per day to each account, every day with only email verification. It was easy money.
2) From videos I have seen on YouTube, I see you use SMS verification. I looked at SMS verification for Dash.red and found that there are businesses whose sole purpose is to create accounts with SMS to commit fraud. They buy SIM cards in the thousands to create fake facebook accounts and sell services related to SPAM and fraud.
3) SMS verification is also susceptible to those who ask all of their friends to claim an account. There will even be those who make a business out of your website by organizing others to claim accounts. This has certainly already happened. I just found a few in Facebook with a quick search: “venezuela Dash ganar dinero desde casa” - I don't know if that is a problem, but the people who get the dash are not the individuals who claim their accounts. They end up getting paid in Bolivares by the organizer. This is why in Dash.red verification videos a person must state that he manages his own Dash wallet.

You are asking for 150 Dash per month. That is a lot. In three months, you will have collected 450 Dash, much of which you will have given away. However, what if you don't? What if you don't get 50,000 new accounts per month?

Besides SMS verification, have you taken any other steps to ensure that each account is owned by a different individual person?

I have not yet voted on this. I am in favor of spreading Dash in small quantities throughout the world to make it understood and known as money. I want to read your response before I vote. Thank you.
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1 point,2 months ago
ok thanks for raising these points out , i am guessing you probably missed our pre-proposal discussions on how aim to eliminate user fraud. getting a SIM card costs about 300,000 bolivars or $1.25 along with long queues to get a sim card, now that it self roughly speaking eliminates users fraud .

we have also asked a for selfie to be taken just like you , we plan to use facial recognition to identify unique users , we also do cookie finger printing and ip address matching so roughly speaking we are sure 95% of accounts are unique ,i think thats a good number for our initiative ( you can eliminate 100% fraud but that would make it very very difficult for users to sign up ). Having said that our next goal is to introduce a getfreedash app which would easy up the process greatly.

One reason we are getting lot more sign ups than you is probably because our give away is more than yours , we are giving $0,5 for signing up others and $0.5 when you sign up. This means many businesses giving free breakfast for users if you signed up using SIM card

The real proof of pudding is this, there are over 90 youtube videos created to spread getfreedash , which doesnt happen if you think its all a bunch of hackers right.

now if we dont manage to spend our money in venezuela our next target countries are Zimbabwe, Nigeria etc in these places as well the SIM card costs $1.

I think the main reason why users are crazy about getfreedash is this , its relatively simple to claim the free dash and referring others to sign up but the money you earn is reasonably high for venezuelans apparently

Hope this helps , let me know if you have more concerns
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1 point,2 months ago
Question: would it be possible to validate the user not with the SIM or telephone number but with the IMEI number of the phone instead. Since the IMEI number is specific for the phone and not the SIM would this not significatnly reduce the risk of fraud?
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1 point,2 months ago
I have voted YES on this because your response shows that you have done a good amount of research into fraud prevention and have implemented measures. I also appreciate greatly the fact that you are an MNO because you can see this from both perspectives, MNO and proposal owner.
I missed out on the pre-proposal for the simple fact that dash.red keeps me really busy. People have asked me about getfreedash.com and I didn't know until today who was behind it.
Feel free to reach out to me for help, ideas, or collaboration. Discord might be the easiest.
Best wishes on great success!
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1 point,2 months ago
Thanks a lot for your support , appreciate it. Getfreedash and dash.red both have huge brand value for Venezuelans when they think of Dash right now !!!
We will always to try to fight fraud as much as we can , thats for sure , once we get the proposal passed , our fraud prevention will be top class for sure
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0 points,2 months ago
You should probably link from one site to the other. So on getfreedash there would be a small message. Want more free dash head on over to dash.red. And of course the revers on dash.red
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0 points,2 months ago
Good point , that's the plan ... We want to be the spring board all dash based services like dash.red , dash exchanges , dash e-commerce and so on... Now that we will get official funding we can plan these out
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0 points,2 months ago
Ask them to send the IMEI number via SMS. Then store all the IMEI numbers in a database and make sure that they do not have any duplicates. I don't know if there is also an online validation service for IMEI numbers to confirm they are valid phones from Venezuela. This would require some research work.
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1 point,2 months ago
Thanks Dashmaximalist for being in Venezuela at EXACTLY the right moment!! That's foresight and follow-through man!! Every Dash marketing campaign should move as fast and flawlessly as this one.

Keep Dash marketing decentralized and into the hands of people who can execute!!!
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0 points,2 months ago
@sherlockholmes , thanks a lot for your support , really appreciate it.

just waiting for us to get the 12 more votes to get and we are set to grow at rocket speed :)
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-1 point,2 months ago
You are thanking Feedbands..
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1 point,2 months ago
Voting Yes!
Go get the Petro scam!
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0 points,2 months ago
Yes yes that's the plan .. thanks for the support
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0 points,2 months ago
Just wow and thank you! Big YES!
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0 points,2 months ago
Thanks a lot for your support. Thanks
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0 points,2 months ago
@dashmaximalist,

I applaud your enthusiasm by putting your own money in advance.

A very important suggestion!

First of all, the entire portal must be in the Spanish language, since it is the native language of your target audience, the video of the portal is in Spanish, ask me for an MP link if you do not find it.

Ask for help to Dash Venezuelza in the translation of the site that in 1h you would have translated it.

I also think like @deepblue that you should get some metric does not cost anything to them and can serve to make synergies with dash core in the future, with the campaigns that they are organizing.
You have my support.
Thanks for the proposal.
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0 points,2 months ago
Thanks a lot for your support and thanks for your suggestions.

Having said that .the page gets automatically translated into Spanish when it's viewed in Spanish countries courtesy of Google chrome etc ... Having said that we do require proper translation capabilities which we will acquire soon
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2 points,2 months ago
Dear dashmaximalist,

You bring results, you put your (own!) money where your mouth is. Voting YES.
Let's make Venezuela the first full DASH country!

Best Regards from Germany and good luck

AnCapitol
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1 point,2 months ago
Thanks a lot for your support ... Appreciate it ...
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1 point,2 months ago
This proposal just became allot more valuable:
https://www.btcnn.com/venezuela-go-full-crypto-coins-accepted-payments/
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0 points,2 months ago
Yes yes absolutely .... Venezuela will have super dash adoption ... Let's make sure we don't miss baby
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1 point,2 months ago
I know this has been a while in the making but great timing with President Nicolas Maduro's recent comments.
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0 points,2 months ago
Yes yes , well said , Apparently every Venezuelan has now heard of cryptocurrency and has some curiosity to explore it , this is the right time for us to make it full speed, and make use of it as much as possible.
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1 point,2 months ago
I like how Dashmaximalist thinks. I have been researching and thinking and working out a strategy myself on how to help convert Venezuela to DASH within 2018. Dashmaximalist is thinking in a very similar way to how I am thinking.

I really like this initiative. One modification to this idea for your consideration. Why not gather a little additional information in the process of giving out the DASH? e.g. you could ask :

are you a merchant or an individual?

If you are a merchant would you be willing to accept DASH for payments for your services? If YES would you be willing to have your details put in a Database online for businesses accepting DASH? If YES then we can register them as merchants willing to accept DASH as payments and gain many more customers in the process. In this way we get something back for our money we are giving out we are building a database of merchants that will accept DASH.

In addition we are helping people find Merchants that are willing to accept DASH for their services. Since we also know who are merchants and who are consumers later one we could also run additional promotional "recharge" campaigns whereby merchants or consumers could be incentivized to spend their additional top up DASH within a specific time frame. If they do they get another recharge as an incentive. Even if it was to buy a loaf of bread or even just a newspaper this is actually starting to get to use DASH as a working currency in Venezuela. If we could do this on a large enough scale we could help Venezuela convert to using DASH as a stable currency alternative in a very short time period. We could carefully think out this later campaign on how to promote USING Dash i.e. during the topups they would need to spend with a DASH registered merchant within 1 month e.g. and then they would receive a second topup. We would know who those Dash registered merchants are and have them online. So we could say if you spend with any of these DASH registered merchants within 30 days you will get an automatic top up of X$ of Dash.

If validation could also be linked to the IMEI number instead of the SIM this would be better than a SIM card validation because then we could safely send larger amounts of Top UP money.

What would be really amazing is if these follow up "top ups" could be automatic for a period of time using the remaining money in the treasury budget at the end of a superblock. Within a very short time we could help Venezuela convert to using DASH as its principal working currency.

Another idea: Maybe the next level would be a lottery type payout to some nominated DASH accounts once per month 10 of these accounts would get $1 whole DASH each. This would create a viral affect of people wanting to get the lottery type payout. This is even more of an incentive to sign up.

I have been working and researching several other concepts for mass adoption for DASH in Venezuela. I had an idea very similar to this one but using an DASH activated Donor app. However this idea using a website is rather ingenious and works really well - I had not thought of that myself.

I am voting YES on this idea. I think it could be developed further later on to have even greater conversion effects but right now it is very good just to have people activating their phones with DASH. If we could also gather some basic info on merchants to post online that would be even better.

I really love this idea. The first stage is to encourage people downloading the DASH wallet and talking about DASH. This campaign achieves that.

Voting YES!
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0 points,2 months ago
hi , first of all , thanks a lot for your support. you insights are invaluable.

as far as merchant adoption goes, here are the current facts , most of the referrals are being done by merchants already , not normal users , most merchants give like a free breakfast or free grocery for those who sign up.
right now the flow is deisgned towards just one thing , getting as many users as possible , we dont want to ask various questions like are you a merchant etc ? however that is absolutely possible , once we have ground force in venezuela ,we can ask people to refer a merchant or two to us and let the ground force validate that. i suggest you contact me directly on the dash forum or my email getfreedash@gmail.com lets discuss more about these

Thanks a lot for your support again
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0 points,2 months ago
Your proposal got cut off. Please paste the whole thing and advise how much in donations youre going to re-pay.
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0 points,2 months ago
hi buddy , what do you mean paste the whole thing ?? i have posted the whole proposal. As far as the donations go we go 30 dash so far , we will pay all of it if the owners claim it back.
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2 points,2 months ago
Congrats on this proposal! Let's integrate getfreedash and automatically display it to visitors from venezuela on dashinformer
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0 points,2 months ago
Sounds great let's do it
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1 point,2 months ago
This is a significant amount, however, you've demonstrated that your methods are very, very effective, and what's more, this provides a huge value to Dash because you're ironing out the fledgling model for widespread, grassroots adoption, which, if it continues to be successful, could be transplanted to other areas of the world with minor modifications. That makes this one of the most valuable projects out there for that reason.
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0 points,2 months ago
You are bang on the spot , that's our plan .. we hope to live up to your expectations , thanks for your support though
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0 points,2 months ago
I wasn't convinced before, but you showed real determination by putting in your own money and just doing it.
Credit where credit is due. I voted yet.
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0 points,2 months ago
Thanks buddy
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0 points,2 months ago
The real credit goes to the people who supported us by donations , thanks everyone for your support
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0 points,2 months ago
*yes
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3 points,3 months ago
Make sure you get this damn thing automated, so we can spread it to the whole world
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0 points,3 months ago
Yes absolutely , thanks for your support
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0 points,3 months ago
I still want to see your short-term automation strategy and long term strategy. And very frequent updates, of course. It was a very exciting few days watching it blow up, then.... nothing.
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1 point,3 months ago
sorry about that, there are two reason 1) we ran out of dash, 2) we dont have a solid dev team ( will hire proper testing team ), we faced issues regarding referral code , we fixed it now.
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0 points,3 months ago
I understand these things happen. I just worry that many venezolanos feel burned.
Perhaps when you are ready to relaunch, you make it a clean slate. As a way to say 'sorry about that' to Venezuela, make it wide open again, even to those who have already received free dash from your 'beta run'.
Maybe that would restore faith and make everyone there happy.
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1 point,3 months ago
yes yes, we are going to fix that soon, thanks
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-1 point,3 months ago
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3 points,3 months ago
You count with our support from Venezuela. If our proposal gets funded, we will do an outbound campaign in order to promote this referral link program. This is a great idea. Good luck my friend.
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1 point,3 months ago
Thanks a lot for your support
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2 points,3 months ago
Great proposal and results.. You have my support.. You should post more details..
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0 points,3 months ago
Coming soon
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2 points,3 months ago
Going viral = easy yes
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2 points,3 months ago
Thanks for your support
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0 points,3 months ago
A great proposal especially when considered in parallel with other projects in Venezuela. If we start to see merchant adoption to service the people receiving this dash, then we have a blue print which can be scaled with measurable results. Easy Yes
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1 point,3 months ago
Thanks a lot for support, we have already started seeing merchant adoption in Venezuela , lot of businesses are offering free stuff for the customers once they sign up using their referral :) https://www.dash.org/forum/posts/168037
we are also seeing some ecommerce merchants using dash for regular business like here https://www.dash.org/forum/posts/169137/
Once we sign up a million folks , dash will be unstoppable in Venezuela
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0 points,3 months ago
I see nothing for 2nd month and 3rd month milestones. Can't say yes until you complete the proposal. Also, how do you make sure the recipients are actually Venezuelans? I want to vote yes, but don't want a system that could be gamed by people outside Venezuela.
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1 point,3 months ago
we accept only people who have a phone number from venezuela , in venzeuala and many other countries , getting a sim card has many strict ID requirements unlike in US and Europe, so effectively blocking out other countries ... THe milestones for 2nd and 3 rd month are the same as first month which is around 50,000 sign ups provided the dash price doesnt crash
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-1 point,3 months ago
1) project submitted last minute
2) no pre proposal discussion
3) majority of videos on that link provided have under 1000 views.

Only one video has over 2k

How is that viral?

Please clarify so i can decide how to vote.
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-5 points,3 months ago
Why is this proposal being submitted so last minute and that with no pre proposal discussion?
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3 points,3 months ago
8 days remaining to vote is not really "so last minute". Please also be sure to take 2 seconds to search the forum before you come out and claim there was no pre-proposal discussion. This proposal had one of the longest pre-proposal discussions of them all...
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0 points,3 months ago
It is last minute. However after @dashmaximalist updated the proposal im glad to support it.

Good luck
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3 points,3 months ago
You have posted this on every single discussion in the last three days.
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-3 points,3 months ago
Ya, it neglects MNOs the ability to conduct any actual research and or due dillegence for 40+ proposals
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1 point,3 months ago
There has been a month worth of discussion and results from his own considerable investment and donations from Dash Nation community members. Why don't you try looking in the forum before posting your spam.
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0 points,3 months ago
I made that comment before he updated the proposal with all the links etc.

I guess he needed time to revise it a bit
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1 point,3 months ago
@instantkarmafund thanks https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/dash-is-going-viral-in-venezuela-crossed-25-000-signups-need-your-support-urgent.28708/
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