Proposal “Development_Team“ (Closed)Back

Title:Dash Development Team/ Merchant Wallet(iOS)
Owner:Mizzymax
One-time payment: 85 DASH (16343 USD)
Completed payments: no payments occurred yet (1 month remaining)
Payment start/end: 2017-05-20 / 2017-06-19 (added on 2017-05-12)
Final voting deadline: in passed
Votes: 267 Yes / 250 No / 177 Abstain

Proposal description

Clarification: this is a proposal to create a free no fee product for merchants to accept Dash (Wallet on iOS) there is another merchant proposal integrating into a merchant service device (Here). 

I find this oddly similar to the 2 ripple gateways as Evan commented on (Here) I just wanted to have you all keep this in mind when making your decision. any questions at all feel free to ask I will answer all of them.

Development Team (25 Dash)

As the development team we are contractors for Dash. We will outreach to independent freelance developers/ small teams that would normally not have the opportunity to take on such task of developing for us on projects other then Core. We will be laying out the ground work for the developers and when we see all the great qualities of a team forming we will encourage them to put in a proposal for themselves. we hope this kickstarts Dash Development and open source products.

 I plan to start many different ventures with this as Dash can go into any market it wants to. Dash Core team is doing great wonders working on evolution. We hope we can spark some great talent to do great things for us at dash, and end up with great products for you. 

Our First Task (Merchant wallet)

We plan to take on Merchant Services and offer extremely better service with Ease of use, Speed, User friendly service , Rewards for customers , and no fees(Currently 3.25% fee of purchase every time someone swipes their card. CRAZY!)

 With funding a merchant wallet, this will cut out any middle man service needed for merchants to accept Dash. simply all they will need to do is download an app rather then sourcing 3rd party materials like they would need to now to accept cryptocurrency. 

Fun Fact- Walmart

Merchant Wallet Development (50 Dash)

I have reached out to a small team of developers ready to take on the task of creating a wallet simply meant for merchants and merchants only. Our first products features will include a QR code generator (for those who don't know, this is a system where a price is input by the merchant and a QR code is generated. when the QR code is scanned the amount they the merchant is asking for will appear in the send bar, the user will just need to scan the code and validate the payment and hit send.) along with the simple works behind the wallet such as back up phrases and codes for the merchant to access personal funds.

In the future we plan to create an "auto pay program" for the merchant, this program will allow merchants who receive funds to automatically transfer the funds to another wallet. this is a safety precaution as you can imagine its like customers being able to hold your wallet with your funds inside of it. this way there will be no worry of loss of funds that way.  We plan on starting development on iOS so merchants could use an iPad to accept payments. More info

(Obviously this wallet will be Dash exclusive)

No Longer needed- (Content Creation (20 Dash)

I have reached out to a web developer who would create a website for us. This website will be dedicated for information meant for Merchants the “How to” the “Why” the “benefits” will all be included on the site. Along with this site comes content that will need to be created, I have a friend of mine that is willing to create short videos to explain the benefits of using Dash for merchants. )

Update 5/17/17:
Dash Force has just released that they will be creating a website DiscoverDash.com for merchants to see how to get into Dash and the merchants who are accepting Dash. This obviously nullifies this sector of my proposal so I will be distributing all of the 20 Dash to go into Merchant Wallet Development. I'm glad Dash Force has taken the initiative and saw the need for its development, thank you.

Our Price (85 Dash Total) 
50 Dash for merchant wallet development

25 Dash for the Development Team

10 Dash proposal fee (I double spent on proposal and lost my 5 dash without making a proposal, if anyone knows how to get the 5 dash refunded let me know. if I get it back il add it to the proposal funding)

Thank you, any questions I would be more then willing to answer them.

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Discussion: Should we fund this proposal?

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0 points,2 months ago
I like this idea and hope it gains traction. I think it should be started before money is paid out. You need to convince us you can lead a team and do this type of work. I'm voting no.
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1 point,2 months ago
How does your app differ from the one being developed by Kodaxx? (https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/dashpay-point-of-sale.12542/)
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0 points,2 months ago
"With funding a merchant wallet, this will cut out any middle man service needed for merchants to accept Dash. simply all they will need to do is download an app rather then sourcing 3rd party materials like they would need to now to accept cryptocurrency." - I have some big questions for you.

1. They will download an app. That's ok. But where are they going to install it?

2. How is it possible to make a clear accounting and taxation through you app?

3. Could you, please, give us some price, as if we were a merchants and decided to implement your system? At least approximately.
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1 point,2 months ago
We are making the app on iOS figuring that merchants can use an iPad as the payment system.

We will not have an accounting structure set up yet for the wallet but in future updates we plan to make it very clear and simple for the merchant to account for his gains/losses.

Currently we are asking for 30 Dash just to start Development and create a prototype, we estimate the client will be finished around 12k-15k with the features Iv mentioned.
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0 points,1 month ago
> we plan to make it very clear and simple for the merchant

It sounds like you haven't nailed your niche. Bricks and mortar? With staff to train, or sole owner/operator? How do they track into cashflow? Or stock shrinkage? What benefit do they get from using Dash? A few % fees isn't worth it if they're waiting for chicken-and-egg consumer adoption.

I'm voting no for as this doesn't seem sufficiently well worked out. The idea in principle is fine, but it needs more merchant-side/business-side input imo.

Related, have you got any merchants into crypto previously? Lots of lessons to be learned cheaply from just doing that with say jaxx wallet, no need to fund dev to learn where the merchants' pain points are.
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0 points,1 month ago
I think if these merchants start to realize that accepting and holding crypto currency alone will make them rich alone they would start to accept it. And it cuts out the fees as well of course.

Think of it like there's a guy who has been accepting bitcoin as payment for the past 2 years and the other fiat. The one who accepts bitcoin is richer just because he accepts it.

Think about that 10,000 bitcoin pizza that's worth sooo much now haha

Also with training, think of it like Cryptocurrency now. Did someone train you to buy crypto? I Was thinking this could be a project that is easy for merchants to understand (like evolution is easy for consumers to understand)

Mass adoption for crypto won't happen unless the merchant is interested in crypto. Plain and simple. We could have easily made a system for people to use euros/dollars via credit card world wide but it's not in the interest of the merchant. We can't try to jam ourselves into the current system that isn't set up to accept crypto, we need to make our own system and as merchants see the value they start to switch over.
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1 point,2 months ago
I really like this proposal, lots of potential!
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1 point,2 months ago
Thanks I appreciate the support!
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0 points,2 months ago
I normally wouldn't vote for something like this but I'm trying to keep an open mind and I do like the idea of adding more DAO's. What experience do you have managing projects like this, if any?... and also, the proposal isn't concise... What would be the deliverables and the timelines for each of the deliverables?
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1 point,2 months ago
Personal experience of being a project manager is running a YouTube channel. I created a team of 20 plus people to join in and create videos/Edit videos/ Upload video. I ran this whole thing from my cell phone networking with several different people to do a job for me. It was a huge success and grew to 800 subscribers in a month. Until the YouTube was taken and videos were deleted :/ (Wish I had proper equipment to upload videos myself but wasn't an option) kind of a simple job but still experience.

With Website development it will take about 2 weeks for it to be completed and in that time we would have the content created for it by then for the site. Any merchant who has any questions of how to accept Dash will need to look no further then our website.

As for the merchant wallet, we plan to start basic development and have a basic prototype ready within a 1 month- 1month and a half is the estimated time the team gave me.

As for the development team, they plan to reach out to other teams to create projects for us. Other projects will be such as web browser blockchain based like maidsafe, possibly a trading platform like ripple etc. (I will be asking the community which way they feel is a right way to move when we get to that stage) as for getting teams on board personally just to find the team I did I called 9 different developers/teams and finally had interest by the 9th one. It is a job for sure, it's not a stable payment for people and a lot are not willing to take Cryptocurrency as payment. Also it's a huge turn off when you say you don't know if you have the funds to even pay them. But if we become larger and more accepted it will be slightly easier to gain these clients. So we hope to bring a more solid team possibly 5-6 hopefully to start development on our next project along with possibly being able to add 2 more people to the merchant wallet development (that's our goals). I think of it like we are the marketing team on the business end of Dash.

I hope I answered your questions, feel free to ask for specifics for clearification if needed
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1 point,2 months ago
I think that this sort of plan to enthusiastically join in with the core team to develop needed solutions could work. Of course it could also get a bit confused, but in my opinion there is a good chance of a lot of good being done, perhaps leading to who knows what. The potential, if it goes well, is considerable. I feel confident enough to vote yes and watch. I can always change my mind in the future if there is bad press.
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1 point,2 months ago
Thank you for your approval
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2 points,2 months ago
I have a bacholar in Business&IT I feel I am qualified to give you a proper reply why I voted no

First of all I do think its a good idea to have external teams working on projects, especially once evolution is out in full. Creating DAPI's that work well within the DASH eco system are plus, and are no treat or can not damage the core software. The ones that work out well should even be listed as trusted software on Dash.org or be given a badge of trust or something similar.

But has it stance, I have no faith I your ability to deliver.

This is why:
1) MNO's Need to be able to asses your ability to deliver aka we need some: CV+portfolio (this should could of
2) This types of projects require some sort "plan of action" (you have to make one anyways so why not include it straight away)

3) Use for reading what your writing here, you don't have really tight plan how to instruct and communicate with people your planning to hire.

Having some experience with hiring external 3th party's myself, I can honestly say, it not an easy task to get things done this way, especially because there will be miscommunication, due to fact you will be dealing with new people, and even do you both may be professional, there are always going to be misinterpretations, this misinterpretations go away, when you start to know each-other better.

Question:
Why would you want to kick-start external teams to start working for DASH?
Your plan is to be project-manager here, but if you remove yourself, than how can you profit again from further projects ?
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1 point,2 months ago
To respond I will be completely transparent with the code. And as for the plan for action I have already discussed our overall project in detail with the development team I have been in contact with. I will expand on that topic.

The reason I feel it is important to kick start external teams is I see the only route we should be going down is the open source products route. With teams that look at us as a constant revenue stream they will continue to try to do the best job they can to receive funding. This will create a competitive market adding more teams into play.

Also our businesses we fund almost always goes out the window because it's a "1 and done" type of proposal, they don't expect another proposal to come so they don't really care to get the job done, so I felt this would change our path from funding those proposals to these as I saw it as a problem for us and think this is the solution.

Me not taking total profit from these teams is part of the great grand scheme. I just want to start Development happening in this space, why should I take a cut if they could run on their own. I am Also not here to take huge profits, my cut after this is only 7 Dash lol. after funding everyone and everything I only took a small amount so I could prove myself the first time around and get stuff done so I can gladly get accepted for other projects.
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0 points,2 months ago
If as you say your doing this free of charge and in an open source manner, than you should be able to post your: plan of action

Because based on that is how these types of projects can judged, if they should continue ahead or not.

What is your background that you are qualified to run these types of projects ?
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0 points,2 months ago
Response to JZA has the plan of action in detail
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0 points,2 months ago
Look at my comment to Dashly for information on this
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1 point,2 months ago
Yes we need more teams. But I would like to see more info on the wallet type project. Language, demo, etc. Is there a forum post or more information on this?
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1 point,2 months ago
I do not have a demo created but we have talked in great detail for the projects overview

We plan to create a calculator system where the merchant can enter the amount (in Dash or in dollars options) and once the information is entered a QR code is shown for customer to pay. When a transaction is confirmed we plan to implement a ringtone feature for the merchant to verify it is completed along with a side bar telling the merchant.

When in this calculator mode for safety precautions we have decided the only way to exit this mode the user will need to put in a 4 digit pin to access the main wallet. As well as other saftey measures to access funds codes can be put in to send funds and even just to look at the amount of funds.

Saftey is our number one priority, the last thing we want is lost trust in an unsafe wallet. That's why I hope to implement the auto pay feature to a personal wallet as soon as possible for safe care free transactions for merchants to take place. for development reasons we need to make it a wallet so that the system can confirm that the transaction has went through. But when auto pay is implement it will be more of a payment gateway rather then an actual wallet. Merchants will have a lot less worries of anything happening when funds are transferred to a private wallet. this will prevent hackers and theifs from trying to attempt/steal funds.

The language for now only English but as more demand comes about, it will accept other languages.

I hope I clearified the subject for you, any more questions feel free to ask
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1 point,2 months ago
So, is this essentially letting Core Devs steward some funds for subcontracting with non-core, but other devs known to them? I'm guessing this then allows core devs to provide some accountability and assessment over the results. If so, seems great to me!
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1 point,2 months ago
Sorry but no. This is a separate entitie from Core. I find myself fully accountable for all results that come from this. This is meant to increase competition between organizations. Right now we are reliant on Core but if organizations are spread out throughout our ecosystem then we no longer become reliant on one single client. Core team
Is doing great don't get me wrong, but this will spark other teams to come into play as well to work on other specified projects.
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1 point,2 months ago
I don't think this is a proposal from the Core Team. They are trying to create a separate team for the goals outlined in this proposal.
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0 points,2 months ago
Correct, thank you
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-1 point,2 months ago
Need more info. Need a demo at least.
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2 points,2 months ago
You'll be surprised how hard it would be to get anything completely laid out when you tell these teams your not even sure if youll have money to pay them. It's only (currently) a $2800 investment for them to start production. I'm disappointed on how many no votes I received. I feel like I tried my best to be transparent as I could be.
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0 points,2 months ago
@Mizzzymax But you are the project manager, your the one that needs to "completely laid out" the plan. That your roll !

@GuerraDiValute
You can not get demo's for free, these are external party's MizzyMax want to contact for paid projects, so no freebies
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0 points,2 months ago
Yes but I am not a coder for I cannot create a demo myself. But I have a solid plan of execution in place. I have talked in great detail with our development team. For further details look at my response to JZA. I am sorry and wish I could supply a demo for you. For future project I will promise to go into as much detail as possible for you. As for now I see this as a kick start for us / "Leap of faith" with the very little amount I am asking for of 75 Dash.
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0 points,1 month ago
You can do powerpoint of screens, etc. This is useful to discuss with devs, as well as market testing it in advance with potential merchants.
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0 points,2 months ago
Pre-Proposal Discussion Thread : https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/pre-proposal-dash-business-development-team.14651/

I will keep an open mind about this and follow the comments, before making a decission on how to vote.
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1 point,2 months ago
Me and my friends decided funding businesses isn't the route we should take, It really isn't realistic and funding businesses really gets us no where. We see it more effective hiring developers to create open source software rather then building 3rd parties up. I changed that part but kept the others parts the same. If you could see our reasoning it makes sense and thought it was a good change in tactics
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