Proposal “public-awareness“ (Closed)Back

Title:DASH public awareness (please downvote this proposal!)
Owner:eduffield
Monthly amount: 2156 DASH (1987487 USD)
Completed payments: 9 totaling in 19404 DASH (91 month remaining)
Payment start/end: 2015-09-08 / 2023-12-30 (added on 2015-08-27)
Final voting deadline: in passed
Votes: 888 Yes / 1246 No / 0 Abstain
External information: goo.gl/V52wZd

Proposal description

This proposal has served it's purpose and has been retired in favor of other new projects. Please vote "NO" on this proposal to actively remove it from the payment queue. Thanks!

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The core team has already proposed that the funds associated with the Public Awareness budget would be much better spent on accelerating development and on creation of fiat gateways. See the full post from Dashtalk here.

Some in the community asserted that - even though people that disagree with the reallocation of resources have the ability to vote the Public Awareness proposal down - it is a bad precedence to set regardless of the fact that 1) we were confident that the community would agree with the change, and 2) most people seem supportive even if they disagree with the process (e.g., "ends justify the means"). So why didn't we just ask the community to vote out Public Awareness and vote in the new proposal? Several reasons:

1) It would constitute a great deal of collective effort - not just for the core team, but for all the MN owners to go in and down-vote P.A... All for a project that we have a high level of confidence would pass regardless.

2) It would also pose a significant risk that we might not get enough actively downvoted MN votes to kick out the PR budget within the 6 days before the budget finalized. The P.A. budget enjoys lots of support, and sitting at 42% support at the time we made the change, the core team alone couldn't vote out our own proposal. The ability of a proposal owner to revoke or cancel its own proposal isn't a function of the first budget system. Without getting it downvoted properly, there could have been unintended consequences (like PR still funding, the new proposal ALSO funding, which could then cause a bunch of other valuable projects to NOT receive funding).

3) The final rationale is that if the core team misjudged the reaction of the community, we are being transparent about the change, so the community is STILL FREE to downvote the PR proposal if it disagrees with how the money is to be spent OR the manner in which we redirected funds.

All things considered, we thought this was the better path to take given we are 6 days from budget finalization. However, some community members - while they understood these points and support the change - are still concerned. I had proposed on Dashtalk the idea of putting a "decision proposal" out to the network in lieu of simply the announcement of the proposed change. I think this approach still addresses the "downvote risk" in #2 above, but also ensures that the change can only be made by getting the necessary votes, and not by simply slipping a change through before absent MN owners notice. This should allow us to "make it official" with community support, while reducing the risk of a full downvote of the old and upvote of the new. The reallocation will only occur with the community's official approval.

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Discussion: Should we fund this proposal?

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0 points,1 year ago
why is anyone voting yes for this. we clearly need to vote this off the agenda as requested.
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0 points,1 year ago
i just now saw it. i think evan or someone mentioned downvoting it not long ago but i had forgot. it needs to be posted on the DASH BCT thread.
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0 points,1 year ago
We are making good progress. We have over two more weeks to get people to change their votes. We've already gone from the mid-20's % to the current mid-10's and only need 2.5% of the network to change their "yes" votes to a "no" to capture the last 5%. Most people wait for the "Official Announcement" forum post once everything is submitted to vote their shares, so it will be voted out.
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1 point,1 year ago
How many more 'no' votes does this need to not be funded?
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0 points,1 year ago
i'm estimating some 200 No votes to get it from current 15% to below 10%
http://dashvotetracker.com/
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2 points,1 year ago
Please downvote this budget proposal as it became obsolete
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0 points,1 year ago
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/core-team-budgeting-update.9179/#post-97097

In order to make room for these new proposals, we will be requesting that the Public Awareness budget be voted down. Evan will update the original posts for those proposals and we will ask you to take the time and please vote "no". We have nearly three weeks to get it voted down, so we do not view this as a risk.
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1 point,1 year ago
This proposal should change it's name to Exchange Awareness. The funds are now 'mostly' used for fiat gateways. Vote based on how these new funds will be used - not public awareness. More details here:
https://dashtalk.org/threads/prioritization-of-fiat-gateways.8457/
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0 points,1 year ago
holy moly they have been busy!
i'm voting yes on this (fiat gateway) proposal for the first time.
it could have been handled better but i understand this is all new and the kinks are still being worked out.

we should let dashworld handle most of the pr stuff now.
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3 points,1 year ago
time for a expense/progress update.
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0 points,1 year ago
What are the main differences between this budget and the transform PR one? They seem to be almost the same stuff?
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0 points,1 year ago
I'm in for YEA YEA - I do like surprises -
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1 point,1 year ago
(tungfa in the house)
there seems to be some misunderstanding about this proposal !

we all have to understand that PR/Marketing has to be done in a small team ! We can not share our ideas and plans in advance or even after !

Marketing has to surprise, not only outsiders but the community too. If we put out in advance what we will do in PR and Marketing for the next month we would lose this momentum of 'surprise' ! Surprised means as well sharing exciting news (social media or wherever). If i tell you tomorrow we will be in X Magazine, you would be 'ok, seen it, what is next'
totally wrong approach ! Surprise, excitement have to be on our side !
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did you ever hear of any company who laid out there Marketing Stategy in advance or even after !
Imagine that trolling storm ! we would kill the whole initiative by going public ! There has to be a certain trust in us and this, and i do not understand what the issue is. You guys really think we will run off with 50 coins ? come on, i think you know us all well enough to have enough trust in the team and strategy we delivered so far.

This 'Public Awareness' not only pushed into the english speaking market, but is much more wide spread, we are talking about Chinese, Russian, Portuguese, Spanish and now Arab + Indonesian too.
(we are doing this by languages)
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2 points,1 year ago
People like to know how their money is being spent...

There has already been 8624 Dash ($35k at current prices) allocated to this PR campaign... with another 206,976 Dash ($825k USD) in the future

I can possibly understand not wanting to announce future plans, but telling people how you spent their money 4 months ago is not asking too much, is it?
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-1 point,1 year ago
I was banned from slack for essentially pointing this concept out. So there is definitely something up here.
See: https://dashtalk.org/threads/hmm-i-see-i-was-booted-from-slack-awesome.7932/
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0 points,1 year ago
Public Awareness Q4 report
https://dashtalk.org/threads/public-awareness-q4-report.7419/

I feel better about this proposal now, Thanks Daniel
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4 points,2 years ago
Voted no. Not clear where money spent for prev perdiod or will be in the next
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0 points,2 years ago
sorry, "period". Can't edit post
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4 points,2 years ago
I see overlap with this proposal and conference budgets/dash.org and other activities. I suggest the team give a really good update for where all the funds have gone so far and any future plans for this funding. And if a specific reason for these funds cannot be anticipated, we defund this proposal and just fund specific events as they come up.
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0 points,1 year ago
After the update Minotaur gave a few weeks ago, I can honestly say these guys are really going for it. I didn't realize how many places they were getting into and that isn't just the US. Good job everyone. Now we need some products that accept Dash that can be put in all that marketing to really show off Dash and get people talking.
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2 points,2 years ago
too little info to justify that much dash ($5000) a month.
voting no for now.
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