Proposal “psa“ (Closed)Back

Title:US Residents can now spend Dash to purchase hundreds of everyday items (all priced at actual cost), from toothbrushes to sunscreen - DASHFAIR.COM. Built in two days for $100. FREE chocolate Dash Coin with every purchase :) Now with weight-based shipping.
Owner:feedbands
One-time payment: 5 DASH (1315 USD)
Completed payments: no payments occurred yet (1 month remaining)
Payment start/end: 2018-04-18 / 2018-05-18 (added on 2018-04-14)
Final voting deadline: in passed
Votes: 317 Yes / 146 No / 39 Abstain

Proposal description

Update 1: We've received our first order! 

Update 2: Chocolate Dash Coins now available for 25 cents including shipping. Legacy Logo. While Supplies Last. 

Update 3: We've made a few pricing changes. All items are now priced exactly at cost without any markup whatsoever. Shipping is now weight based and not included in the price. Instead of "free shipping" we now include a chocolate dash coin free with any purchase. Enjoy and keep the excellent feedback coming. 

Site is in beta, v 0.0.1 so go easy on us :)  Still, it functions 100% and allows the sale of hundreds of items in Dash with free shipping. 

This is not a request for money from Treasury. Only a request to reimburse the submission fee to make the announcement. 

Last weekend I spent $100 and two days building DashFair.com . It offers hundreds of the most basic household items, all for sale in Dash only, and all with free two day shipping. Pens, pencils, SD cards, snacks, band aids, notebooks, razors, you get the idea. 

My hope is that lots of proposals try lots of things to help people earn and spend dash. This is one model that can be rapidly deployed anywhere. Dashfair can only service the USA because shipping "everyday items" internationally just doesn't make sense, the shipping would be too expensive and delivery would take too long. 


Budget (paid out of pocket, not requested from Treasury):
  • Domain registration: $15
  • SSL: $50
  • Fancy bubble mailers for awesome customer experience: $35

Reimbursement of submission (requested from treasury): 
  • 5 dash

Tech:
  • Wordpress (free)
  • Woocommerce (free - Storefront theme)
  • Gocoin (free to set up - flat 1% processing fee)
  • Endicia / Dazzle / USPS online (For shipping labels)
  • Zebra label printer 
How it works:
Dashfair.com essentially utilizes the instacart model. For those unfamiliar, instacart allows someone to just go shopping for you and bring your items to your door. Instacart doesn't stock any product, but they'll send a driver to your favorite grocery store, etc. and bring your item to your door.

As you may or may not know, Feedbands ships about a thousand or two vinyl records each month out of our main distribution center. This distribution center happens to be right next to a CVS, so any time we receive an order on Dashfair, a member from our staff will go to CVS, pick up the item, and mail it out same day. Unfortunately for now that means the prices are high, but it's an experiment and a model that we hope others build upon. 

All orders come with free two day shipping, and all orders ship within one business day. 

Why are we doing this? Don't we have enough on our plate?

I've talked about my history a little bit in the forums and on Discord. In 2007 I founded a digital currency and closed loop digital economy that quickly grew to doing hundreds of thousands of transactions per day. It was called "Entrecard" and from the moment we launched it, everyone had a simple and easy way to earn our currency (visiting other blogs and selling ads on their own blogs) and everyone had things to spend the currency on (ads for their blog). We grew it to include a shop where people could buy anything they wanted with entrecard credits and people could also sell whatever they wanted. We were used by over 40,000 bloggers at our peak before things tragically collapsed due to a lack of funding. But yes, we were doing hundreds of thousands of transactions per day. Although Entrecard failed, it's failure was due to its success. I've spent the last decade waiting for another chance to take all the lessons I've learned to help make a digital currency really work. 

Entrecard had something Dash needs: A simple and easy way for lots and lots of people to *earn* small amounts of the currency. And ways for everyone to *spend* their currency that tapped into their real needs. 

Thought experiment #1: When is the last time you bought some cash to spend? You probably never have, because in an economy, cash is not something people buy, it is something people earn. 

Thought experiment #2: If someone gets some dash from a giveaway or an airdrop, how do they become regular, long term users of Dash? Realistically, they probably don't because they don't have any more ways to earn it and they don't have super easy ways to spend it on the things they need. They'll likely cash it out and that's that. 

Thought experiment #3: How many treasury proposals are directly resulting in either A.) more ways for people to become regular earners of dash or B.) more ways for people to spend the dash they earn? There is a lot of wonderful work being done by a lot of wonderful people here, and I want to sincerely applaud everyone's efforts. And yet, I have a nagging feeling that if, month over month, the number of transactions that Dash is doing is not going up, than the treasury is not doing it's job. And beyond that, if Dash is to succeed, it must be used for things. Bitcoin is a store of value. Perhaps it will never be used for transactions. From my perspective, we really need to focus on getting Dash in people's hands who then actually use it for things. 

Thought experiment #4: What is one reason someone might shop on Dashfair when there are plenty of other places to shop? Because we're the only place on earth where you can buy Chocolate Dash Coins with the Legacy Logo. 25 cents each including shipping. Go ahead and try to buy them with fiat anywhere, see how far you get :)

At entrecard, we created things people could spend their credits on that they all needed. And that's why we are launching Dashfair with hundreds of basic items like toothbrushes and toilet paper and snack bars and batteries and SD cards. These are the most basic things everyone needs. We're going to ship these items fast, because we're already in the office shipping things five days a week and all these items are always in stock right next door to us. 

We need your help and feedback! 
  • Buy something
  • Give us feedback
  • Suggest more products to carry




PS: Don't forget to pick up some Chocolate Dash Coins with the Legacy Logo while supplies last, 25 cents each including shipping. When we reorder, it will be with the new logo. 


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Discussion: Should we fund this proposal?

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0 points,2 months ago
Very poor and expensive way to do a PSA. Hell, a free post on the DashPay Reddit would have probably had more eyes on it and it wouldn't have cost 5 dash!! Sorry, voting No so this kind of thing doesn't become a habit.
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2 points,2 months ago
Voting NO on these personal service announcements (PSA) period. Too many budget proposals these days in actual need of funding, so i want the 5 Dash not come from our budget funding system. I consider the budget proposal fee as a cost to you personal for making this PSA visible on the Dash Network.
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1 point,2 months ago
We feel that is more than fair.
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4 points,2 months ago
While dashfair looks like a nice experiment, $2200 has been burnt announce a site you made for $100.

Rather, there should be a discussion about how effective your main advertising campaign is in leading to merchant or user adoption? At 1234 dash, it is 20% of the treasury budget in a tight month.
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0 points,2 months ago
Also, speaking to your point about the advertising campaign, we are pursuing merchants in this way:

1. In english speaking countries around the world, we are targeting hundreds of searches similar to "how to accept bitcoin" and "how to accept cryptocurrency"

2. These merchants land on a page tailored specifically to them which offers them integration options and information, offers a helpdesk, and touts dash's benefits.

We did get contacted by someone in the restaurant industry who has a massive rolodex and connections to thousands of restaurants who claims he can bring us "thousands of restaurants." I reached out for help from the community as to how best direct this resource but didn't get any direction, so I would love some help figuring out how best to utilize someone that our campaign found who is willing to "sign up thousands of restaurants"
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-1 point,2 months ago
I understand your concern, and can see your perspective. In all reality, every month is likely going to be a tight month from here on out for the DAO.

Engagement is highest through this channel, and already we have received great feedback, fixed bugs, adjusted features, changed our pricing structure. It has been indispensable to polish the product. Even if we lose the 5 dash, it was worth the $2200 for the rapidity and quality of the feedback.

We know it is a bit extreme to make an announcement this way.

We also believe it is critically important to the success of Dash that more proposals begin to directly result in an increased transaction volume, and that was also part of the inspiration behind electing this channel. We just want to do our part to help push the sentiment in that direction.
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5 points,2 months ago
While I like the fact that you are growing the ecosystem. I think it is a waste of time and treasure money to do a PSA this way. I am sorry for your 5 dash loss, but I am voting NO in the hopes that this doesn't become a thing.

please use the forums, get a dash force news coverage, use discord. I think you can get enough visibility there.
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1 point,2 months ago
It is ok to vote no! Engagement is highest through this channel, and by doing this we have already received great feedback, fixed bugs, adjusted features, changed our pricing structure. It has been indispensable to polish the product and get it market ready.
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-3 points,2 months ago
Thanks for this PSA! Great initiative feedbands and I'm impressed that you didn't ask for any Dash to build out the site. I'll be placing my first order momentarily.

Side note: The GoCoin checkout should show a Dash icon... it currently shows other cryptos.
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1 point,2 months ago
Thanks, and please let us know if you experience any issue with the redirect!
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0 points,2 months ago
(After payment)
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0 points,2 months ago
I ordered a bunch of Dash chocolate coins! Mostly smooth process but with one issue: the redirect page after receiving the order timed out. But I did get an email confirmation, so that's good.
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1 point,2 months ago
Working on the redirect. Will report back once sorted.
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1 point,2 months ago
Redirect issue has been fixed.
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4 points,2 months ago
really? imho this is just a waste of MNO time you don't need proposal to announce you are making a web site accepting dash...
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-1 point,2 months ago
I know that to some it may seem like a waste to post this as a proposal. But, we view it as essential to Dash's long term success that more people start building things that increase Dash's transactions. We wanted to demonstrate how quickly and easily it can be done for all to see.
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-1 point,2 months ago
I mean don't get me wrong I'm all about the work you've been doing but this seems things we should just all be doing, and I agree with more people making sites to sell things for dash, anxious for dashop.io....

so well I decided to try your site buy some stuff and its saying my tx has not come through even though I already have 2 confirmations the order is about to expire, check your order history b27fd2ae-5e70-4b8b-ab19-c0783518280a I know you are alpha / beta buy this seems BROKEN~!? or a SCAM? i'll wait to see if I get my products....my order says expired even though payment has now 3 confirmations... :(
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0 points,2 months ago
Hi and thanks for testing our site and making a purchase. Your order was placed "on hold" by GoCoin because, according to GoCoin, it was paid after the 14 minute window that GoCoin gives you to pay the invoice.

Here is the message they displayed:

MERCHANT REVIEW
This invoice was paid late. Accepting it now will result in the following gain/loss:

USD
$0.00

DASH
Ð0.00000000

Note: This calculation takes into account your current split settings and exchange rates. Rejecting this payment will refund the customer in full. This may require that you provide a refund address.

So, we had to manually approve the order by logging into GoCoin and accepting whatever gains/losses occur due to the transaction happening outside the window, which of course was perfectly OK with us.

You should receive your order in about two days :)

Also, Dashop is going to be a wonderful shop and we too are excited/anxious for it! Dashfair is not intended to compete with it in any way. In fact, we intend it to be a "flea market" style shop where anyone can sell any old thing they have lying around. In order to not run afoul of money transmitter laws, we need to provide transaction based services to ensure the terms of the agreement/transaction are met, so we're not ready to open to everyone yet. Dashop, by contrast, is focusing on large, established merchants, and specifically excluding small individual random sellers which Dashfair intends to cater to. So we're working on two different ends of the market.
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0 points,2 months ago
thanks for the update, I tired again from a different computer, but got a different issue. Now the payment went green but the site crashed afterwards. I even filmed it, seems like it tries to redirect after detecting the payment but fails... looking forward to version 0.0.2
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0 points,2 months ago
Hmm. Both orders were received successfully on our end and are being fulfilled. The redirect crash is weird, could be caused by VPN, if you could send us the video along with browser / device info that would be helpful.
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3 points,3 months ago
nice site
but maybe it would be good to announce this just in reddit, twitter, facebook, DASH forum etc for free than here for 5 DASH
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1 point,3 months ago
Dash only?
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1 point,3 months ago
Dash is the only available payment method, yes.
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1 point,3 months ago
Voting yes for a number of reasons.

1. Hey, another cool way for Dash people to buy real stuff.

2. I compared a number of the prices, and when you account for the free 2 day shipping, stuff is competitively priced.

3. At the moment, burning 5 Dash to make a proposal is the best way we have to insure that the maximum number of Masternodes see a message. There is no MailChimp list with all the Masternodes' email addresses. Thus, I am happy to reimburse Feedband's 5 Dash. I would be very interested in a more direct and efficient way to communicate with all, or at least the majority of Masternodes though.

solarguy
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-1 point,3 months ago
Thanks for understanding. We did want to make sure all the active MNOs saw it.
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-1 point,3 months ago
Nice ad, dude :-)
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0 points,3 months ago
I think it's important for the Network to see examples of easily implementable use cases that can increase transactions and decrease our reliance on fiat.

If I'm not mistaken, this is maybe the only place in the US you can buy a Toothbrush and pay in Dash.
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1 point,3 months ago
While this does sound interesting spending 5 dash for this seems like kind of a waste.

Also, the interesting part about easily earning dash is not improved by this in any way. So not sure why you focused on that so much.
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-1 point,3 months ago
We have a really exciting idea for earning, but before we can do anything to help people earn it, the earners need to be able to spend it somewhere.
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0 points,3 months ago
For those who give us a shot and make a purchase, one thing you'll notice is how blazingly fast the gocoin invoice posts the paid callback. Literally the moment you send from the Dashwallet, not even using instantsend, it confirms as paid. Of course, we don't ship out until all the confirmations come in, but for the sake of the transaction it happens instantly even without instantsend. Amazing.
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-1 point,3 months ago
Hey folks, for a limited time only we have chocolate dash coins with the legacy logo, available no where else, available for 25 cents (in dash).

https://dashfair.com/product/chocolate-dash-coins/
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0 points,3 months ago
You’ve asked for 5dash? But it costs 5 dash to submit the proposal. I’m confused
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-1 point,3 months ago
Just a reimbursement of the submission fee.
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0 points,3 months ago
Interesting
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-1 point,3 months ago
I don’t get what I’m voting on
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5 points,3 months ago
PSA = Public Service Announcement.

I would much rather see the 5 Dash sent to one of the charities accepting Dash. Plenty of other areas for announcements and that is what we pay Dashforce to help with.
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-1 point,3 months ago
This is really cool, I can't think of too many situations in which I would personally need or want to make use of it but it's nice to know that it's available. Might be useful when traveling (i.e. extended stay at a hotel, etc).
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2 points,3 months ago
Thanks! Actually, the people who hold Dash now are not the target market.

Instead, we view our target market as people who may earn small amounts of Dash in the future and need a place to spend it.
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