
Proposal “payment-processor“ (Closed)Back
Title: | Dash to Fiat Payment Processor |
Owner: | DartPayments |
Monthly amount: | 400 DASH (9157 USD) |
Completed payments: | 1 totaling in 400 DASH (2 month remaining) |
Payment start/end: | 2016-03-07 / 2016-06-21 (added on 2016-02-23) |
Final voting deadline: | in passed |
Votes: | 839 Yes / 1187 No / 0 Abstain |
External information: | www.dashwhale.org/p/payment-processor |
Proposal description
UPDATE:
Keep updated on our progress at our blog or on Twitter
Intro
To drive adoption of Dash one of the important pieces of infrastructure required is a high quality Dash exclusive payment gateway with instant fiat conversion. Bitpay and Coinbase have been instrumental in encouraging merchants to add Bitcoin as a payment option on their sites.
We are proposing to create a high quality Dash to fiat payment processor. The only currency we will accept is Dash.
A short presentation to complement the text below is available here. The DashTalk thread can be found here.
Demo
Visit our website at dartpayments.comwhere you can sign up to our mailing list or click through to our demo site.Dashstickers.xyz is an early working demo of our processing and conversion software. You can purchase two Dash vinyl stickers for only $2.
Be aware though this is early software and that you can get in touch with us at contact@dartpayments.com.
Amount requested vs. costs
We propose to request 400 DASH from in each of the next 3 budget cycles. This will provide us with capital to develop a beta version of our software for select merchants to implement on their sites. Costs are very much an open ended question, we'll build as much as we can with the funds received. We expect to contribute additional funds from our own pockets on top of the DASH we receive from the budget.
Note: Amount was chosen when there was still 455 Dash available in the next budget (currently 400 left).
Equity to Dash Foundation
As this is a for profit business we accept that we should give something back to the Dash community (in addition to building important infrastructure to drive mainstream Dash adoption) in return for funding. For every month of funding we receive we’ll be offering 5% of the business to the Dash foundation (total of 15% should we receive funding for all 3 months).
It has been suggested that we give the equity and associated (future) dividends straight back to the network. At this stage we see no technical or legal framework for doing so. We will encourage the Dash foundation to gift the equity to the network if it becomes technologically and legally feasible at some point in the future.
Pre-proposal consultation
Prior to submitting this proposal to the network we engaged in discussion on DahTalk.org with members of the community to help understand any concerns they have and potential ideas that could be incorporated into the proposal or product.
Dash business development head Daniel Diaz (DashTalk username ‘Minotaur’) commented:
“I think this is a good project, it is well aligned with our overall goals of facilitating access to the Dash economy and more importantly it would very quickly lead to Dart payments cold calling and selling merchants on accepting Dash. I think we should support initiatives like this that are directed at bringing new businesses into the Dash economy in a very direct way with the possibility of having short term results. This is outward facing and should result in growth, for the modest amount of 1200 DASH over 3 months, I think is something we should all support."
How the system works
After a merchant integrates Dart Payments into their site customers will see a "Pay with Dash" button in the checkout. When clicked information about the transaction is sent from the merchant to our database and a payment window/popup appears. Once we receive payment of the Dash to our wallet we send confirmation back to the merchant that it has been
paid.
On the back end we instantly convert the Dash into fiat currency (using BTC as an intermediary until there is a DASH to fiat exchange with enough volume). Daily deposits of fiat will be made to the merchant’s bank
account.
Revenue
We expect to charge a flat 1% fee to all merchants. We will likely offer the first $X of transactions fee free to encourage merchants to sign up. There is also the possibility of tweaking our conversion system to make gains on exchange rate movements.
Who are we?
Long time cryptocurrency enthusiasts with a keen interest in Dash since early 2014.
Henry McKay - Commerce student at Monash University in Melbourne Australia. Currently working in Christchurch, New Zealand over the summer. Finance lead for rLoop (SpaceX Hyperloop Pod Competition entrant).
Angus McKay - Recently Completed a diploma of web development. Currently working on various personal projects.
There’s not much available online about us, and we value our privacy (like many Dash users). A couple of trusted community members have verified that we are long time Dash users.
Keep updated on our progress at our blog or on Twitter
Intro
To drive adoption of Dash one of the important pieces of infrastructure required is a high quality Dash exclusive payment gateway with instant fiat conversion. Bitpay and Coinbase have been instrumental in encouraging merchants to add Bitcoin as a payment option on their sites.
We are proposing to create a high quality Dash to fiat payment processor. The only currency we will accept is Dash.
A short presentation to complement the text below is available here. The DashTalk thread can be found here.
Demo
Visit our website at dartpayments.comwhere you can sign up to our mailing list or click through to our demo site.Dashstickers.xyz is an early working demo of our processing and conversion software. You can purchase two Dash vinyl stickers for only $2.
Be aware though this is early software and that you can get in touch with us at contact@dartpayments.com.
Amount requested vs. costs
We propose to request 400 DASH from in each of the next 3 budget cycles. This will provide us with capital to develop a beta version of our software for select merchants to implement on their sites. Costs are very much an open ended question, we'll build as much as we can with the funds received. We expect to contribute additional funds from our own pockets on top of the DASH we receive from the budget.
Note: Amount was chosen when there was still 455 Dash available in the next budget (currently 400 left).
Equity to Dash Foundation
As this is a for profit business we accept that we should give something back to the Dash community (in addition to building important infrastructure to drive mainstream Dash adoption) in return for funding. For every month of funding we receive we’ll be offering 5% of the business to the Dash foundation (total of 15% should we receive funding for all 3 months).
It has been suggested that we give the equity and associated (future) dividends straight back to the network. At this stage we see no technical or legal framework for doing so. We will encourage the Dash foundation to gift the equity to the network if it becomes technologically and legally feasible at some point in the future.
Pre-proposal consultation
Prior to submitting this proposal to the network we engaged in discussion on DahTalk.org with members of the community to help understand any concerns they have and potential ideas that could be incorporated into the proposal or product.
Dash business development head Daniel Diaz (DashTalk username ‘Minotaur’) commented:
“I think this is a good project, it is well aligned with our overall goals of facilitating access to the Dash economy and more importantly it would very quickly lead to Dart payments cold calling and selling merchants on accepting Dash. I think we should support initiatives like this that are directed at bringing new businesses into the Dash economy in a very direct way with the possibility of having short term results. This is outward facing and should result in growth, for the modest amount of 1200 DASH over 3 months, I think is something we should all support."
How the system works
After a merchant integrates Dart Payments into their site customers will see a "Pay with Dash" button in the checkout. When clicked information about the transaction is sent from the merchant to our database and a payment window/popup appears. Once we receive payment of the Dash to our wallet we send confirmation back to the merchant that it has been
paid.
On the back end we instantly convert the Dash into fiat currency (using BTC as an intermediary until there is a DASH to fiat exchange with enough volume). Daily deposits of fiat will be made to the merchant’s bank
account.
Revenue
We expect to charge a flat 1% fee to all merchants. We will likely offer the first $X of transactions fee free to encourage merchants to sign up. There is also the possibility of tweaking our conversion system to make gains on exchange rate movements.
Who are we?
Long time cryptocurrency enthusiasts with a keen interest in Dash since early 2014.
Henry McKay - Commerce student at Monash University in Melbourne Australia. Currently working in Christchurch, New Zealand over the summer. Finance lead for rLoop (SpaceX Hyperloop Pod Competition entrant).
Angus McKay - Recently Completed a diploma of web development. Currently working on various personal projects.
There’s not much available online about us, and we value our privacy (like many Dash users). A couple of trusted community members have verified that we are long time Dash users.
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[quote]Another important implication of the meeting, Duffield believes, is realization of importance and necessity of creating fiat gateways for Dash. Availability of specific gateways will facilitate usage of the cryptocurrency for people, he supposes.[/quote]
I'm not telling anyone how to vote as i believe thats everyone's personal responsebility but i do want to emphasize this is an important topic and voting on this proposal is important.
There is still some four weeks to go before voting time expires, so pls vote in that time frame.
This proposal has in no way shown what I feel is the minimum of what we expect from any business we are considering funding. There is no seasoned management, no documentation as to what they plan to build or how they will execute, and have a very unrealistic idea as to what it will take to get this project off the ground. Given that, I highly advise all masternodes to vote NO on this project.
against it.
Is your business licensed and/or registered with the local financial services regulator? Do you have a banking partner already, and are they aware that you're a cryptocurrency payment processor?
We do not have any specific experience operating a payment processor, but do have an in depth understanding of the challenges facing businesses in the cryptocurrency space.
We're not licensed with any regulatory authority at present, but will be taking adequate steps to comply with legal requirements. Banking is probably the most difficult part of the whole process. At this stage we believe it is a bit premature to be approaching banks.
1. Are you qualified lawyers or have you experience in dealing with lawyers? An exchange like this will need to adhere to various local and international laws.
2. Are you security experts or do you plan to hire security experts? Exchanges are always targets for hackers. The last thing Dash needs is the headline 'Dash exchange is hacked and users lose millions'.
It sounds like you guys have great intentions. Can you confirm that you have plenty of industry experience with the full development life cycle? Please provide examples of your work.
Security is important, and is certainly something we will be paying a lot of attention to. Due to the fact that we will be converting to fiat immediately after receiving Dash and transferring fiat to merchant bank accounts daily there will be almost no Dash held by us, and fiat will be in exchange and bank accounts for a limited time.
"5.1 Fiat Conversion
Dash Evolution will also give users the ability to convert to and from fiat using using converters.
These are special users that provide another service for the network and are paid a percentage
of the transaction to process it. Converters will be rated by users who do business with them,
and this reputation will be crucial in helping other users decide which converters are most
reliable and trustworthy. The result will be a safe and global fiat conversion network."
So, this proposal is somehow duplicating efforts with Evolution's roadmap
https://dashtalk.org/threads/dash-2016-roadmap.8068/
[quote]
3.Business Development â—¦Improve fiat access to Dash tokens:â—¾Develop high-quality partners for exchange services, market making, and brokerage to improve market liquidity and access
â—¾Alternatively, start our own exchange services if proper partners are not found[/quote]
"Will not be paid with next budget. This proposal exceeds the remaining unallocated budget of 399 DASH!"
Looks like you have two options :
1 : proceed and have it paid by the superblocks in april and may 2016 (total 800 Dash) and then create another budget proposal for the missing 400 Dash in june 2016
2 : ask us to downvote this one and create a new one with the correct budget amount (399 / 398 Dash) for three months.
IMHO : No
I will not vote on this issue until I know for sure this is not duplicating efforts with Evolution development.
Somebody please explain.
Thanks
We will be including Evolution support in the Dart Payments gateway once Evolution is more developed.