Proposal “gc-tristar“ (Closed)Back
Title: | Tristar Gym: 2018 Dash Partnership |
Owner: | greencandle |
One-time payment: | 122 DASH (6727 USD) |
Completed payments: | no payments occurred yet (1 month remaining) |
Payment start/end: | 2018-01-17 / 2018-02-16 (added on 2018-01-11) |
Final voting deadline: | in passed |
Votes: | 534 Yes / 245 No / 70 Abstain |
Proposal description
Tristar Gym: 2018 Dash Partnership
TL;DR: Dash has an opportunity to join Monster Energy, Reebok, and Timtam.tech as a premier sponsor of Tristar Gym. Firas Zahabi (Tristar founder) has become widely known as being the person who has gotten a lot of notable mma fighters into cryptocurrency. He now would like to partner with Dash to bring a cashless Dashpay option to his fighters in Montreal through this unique opportunity which would allow all Tristar Gym fighters to receive a 15% discount if paying with Dash. He would also like to extend our exposure into the online presence of Tristar through inclusion of Dash in his channels Youtube Videos.- Create cashless Dashpay option for all Tristar fighters that would allow them to receive 15% discount if they pay using Digital Cash
- Become premier sponsor of Tristar along with Monster and Rebook for the 2018 calendar year
- Dash branding around the Gym for the Athletes and Patrons
- Inclusion of Dash branding in videos on the Tristar gym YouTube channel (currently 105k subs videos ranging from 5k to 3.6m views)
Proposal: https://docs.google.com/a/greencandle.io/document/d/1AZ-0Z9CsyGk9ULs4hrcqsCTY3GMPUL1xLE4ECQHtF5Q/edit?usp=sharing
Pre-proposal: https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/tristar-gym-1-year-sponsorship.25911/
Firas Talking Dash: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFMOvEGmqNQ
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From a consumer perspective, we feel there's a lot to be desired than what is proposed. A better user experience would be required, such as Festy for gyms.
We are abstaining our vote and hope this proposal gets worked on for a future submission.
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Hmmm. Yes.....on the fence with this..but the incentive to pay gym fees with Dash got the Y.
Separately, this has also resulted in a possible MMA awards show sponsorship which encompasses all MMA participants (including UFC).
You might be right that the gym itself has a smaller reach, but it is obvious that the relationship we have developed there has led us to much larger audiences.
If you are not an MMA fan, some of this may be lost on you and I do appreciate that. I am new to MMA myself but I am learning to love the sport because I see similar characteristics between the athletes and much of the work we do. Time, dedication, failure, practice...and the ability to get back up once you've been knocked down.
Regardless of the outcome we appreciate the feedback and will continue to work on plans to create the broadest appeal. Thank you.
That being said, I think that alot of the funding the dash network is putting towards MMA sponsorships is not cost effective. No one who is watching MMA who doesn't already know about Dash is going to see some random word on someone's t-shirt and think anything of it. Just plastering Dash all over stuff is not good marketing.
The only reason Coca-Cola can get away with that style or marketing is because everyone already knows what Coca-Cola is. No one knows what Dash is yet.
While this proposal is a step in the right direction in that it is more than just plastering our logo on someones shirt, it has a ludicrously small footprint for almost $100,000. I get that you say this will lead to a better relationships in the future, but that isn't how businesses should function, we don't give away money in the hopes we will be offered a better opportunity in the future.
I don't view this as a sponsorship of a single gym, rather an opportunity to build an ecosystem that we can test and monitor. Firas is part of a large network of gyms across Canada and the USA. We would work with Firas to scale this project and make it available to gyms everywhere. We need to start with a good foundation, in a place where we have great working relationship already, then work our way towards the larger goals.
I appreciate that MNOs are concerned about spending funds just because they are available. The upfront costs are not insignificant for this project, but the investment provides for a clear path forward and one that I believe is worth taking a chance on.
Voting closes shortly for this cycle, so I just want to thank all the MNOs that read through the vast amount of proposals this month. Thank you to everyone who recognized the hard work that the proposal owners put in as well as to all those who provided feedback to help try to make the proposals better.
This is not about paying anyone back. It is about building on what we have already created with a trusted member in his space to reach a different set of people. Trust plays a large part in the adoption of new technology, particularly when money is involved. I want to support as many people like Firas as we can because he has the trust of his community and they will take his lead.
I am asking those MNOs that are not fans of MMA to take a step back and look at this for what it is - an opportunity to work closely with a top professional in his industry that will give Dash exposure to a large audience. This will actually give new users a place to go and test it out. It offers a clear use case for Dash, and I am hopeful that enough MNOs will agree to support it.
I appreciate your questions and willingness to get informed before making your final decision. Thank you!
For that reason alone, I'm voting yes.
Everything else is gravy.
Love it!
This proposal gets a no vote any which way..
Each time this comes up we always ask people look at the blockchain. We have taken the time to make sure that all funds that have been escrowed by GC are done transparently. In fact to date we have still taken zero actual returns out of any of the GC proposal funding lanes that we control. We would like to say that again.
To date. ALL OF GREENCANDLES OPERATIONS has been paid for out of pocket by it's directors. All fees charged to the network have only been collected in the escrow wallets and never actually moved. We haven't even moved any of the returned proposal fees that we have received. We have literally paid for everything out of pocket and to date not taken a single reward for this and you sit there asking for us to be more transparent? We have literally taken nothing for all of our work so far.
Yes we have asked for proposals fees but and escrow fees but if you look on the blockchain NONE (I REPEAT ZERO, ZILCH, NOTA, NOTHING) has ever been taken and spent. At some point it would be appreciated if the community would stop pointing fingers and start respecting the fact that we are being so transparent by properly managing the funds on the blockchain.
We apologize if you feel like it shouldn't be your job to have to look at the public blockchain and we do intended on improving our reporting but to just swipe aside all the hard work we have put into this months proposal cycle is nonsensical to us. We brought all of our proposals to the network early and we attempted to really listen to the network.
You are welcome to abstain but to not even take the time to clarify such an outlandish comment we feel isn't overly constructive. Regardless thank you for the comment.
Voting no.
GC has sponsored on behealf of the Dash Network a $10,000 Mystic Dash giveaway during the run-up to the Conor McGregor vs Floyd Mayweather super fight. There was some great social media chatter as Firas gave away $100 USD worth of Dash to 100 people in the days leading up to the fight. He then gave away $10,000 USD worth of Dash to 1 person who correctly predicted the outcome of the fight.
Mayweather vs McGregor Post Fight Analysis - 10 000$ Prize - Collecting Comments & Questions (51k views):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFMOvEGmqNQ
Post fight - Mayweather vs McGregor - 10k Giveaway (7.8k views great Dash comment at 3:23 mins includes live giveaway at 5:25mins from Montreal to Lithuania):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXpIn6bpb38
$250 Giveaway Video (2.6k views):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7xm2dgWdwU
10k Giveaway Video (7.2k views great Dash comment at 3:23min): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUyKmz4O-b4
Total Views: ~100,000 views (Aug - Sept 2017)
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GreenCandle director Coingun has sponsored on behalf of the Dash Network 12 episodes of PVC and paid 12 fighters each $100 in Dash. These videos are being watched more and more by hardcore fans as a way to learn about jiu-jitsu. Recently some users on reddit have expressed that they found out about Dash through Firas’ video on Youtube.
View counts:
Episode 1 (29k views): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO3sYlTF8AU
Episode 2 (16.2k views): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVdfp6_OLZU
Episode 3 (12.2k views): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWIpQR_2y9M
Episode 4 (7.4k views): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzvPMR96Y98
Episode 5 (8k views): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpV7GI_CuSk
Episode 6 (7k views): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj_G5DXMc4A
Episode 7 (11k views): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIsvUq0yd7Y
Episode 8 (7.6k views): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOumQJ-Ks2Q
Episode 9 (7.4k views): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VIEv_FY5hI
Episode 10 (14k views kids match!): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PHHUWeyB24
Episode 11 (6.5k views): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWRM-rxXdmw
Episode 12: (5.7k views): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTqLZj3POxw
Total Views: ~132,000 views (Jun 19,2017 - Jan 3, 2018)
So just to be clear there isn't zero views here this youtube channel isn't just some kid in his garage it's one of the most well respected coaches in all of MMA
Your claim "just another cash grab" yet if you look on the blockchain this statement is one of absurdity. Not only has GreenCandle taken nothing from any proposals it hasn't even taken back it's proposal submission fees. We understand you are out to spread FUD but we would ask that you chose something else other then calling us out for a cash grab as we have done nothing but sink our hard earned money, time, and resources into making the Dash ecosystem better.
At the end of the day we know that we are doing good things for this ecosystem. You can try and troll us and try and knock us down with this well planned back handed comments but we know the truth. We are setting the gold standard for how these things should be done and we are leading by example instead of filling our days trolling people who are actively trying to make this world a better place.
Regardless thank you for your comment as each one makes us stronger and more ready to help the Dash ecosystem.
Put your money where your mouth is.
Would this surely benefit Dash? Yes.
Easy yes.
Without taking smaller steps and supporting the foundation, these kinds of leaps forward become much less likely to occur. MMA is a hotbed for crypto and Firas and Tristar Gym are ready to jump on board. A relatively small funding commitment will no doubt pay dividends to Dash for years to come.
I think we need to play out multiple angles.
Because in that gym I estimate 1000 different people circulate.
I do not see the investment ..
Firas was even rocking Dash gear during Rory's fight! https://twitter.com/Firas_Zahabi/status/954513274694807552
If you or anybody know's these kinds of people than please do contact them.
Just because you don’t see development proposals doesn’t mean development has stopped or that the pace of development can be improved by throwing money at the problem.
I have some questions about some of the other GC proposals so I hope CG and Jeremy can join us for the 3 Amigos after party.