Proposal “dashtalk-acquisition“ (Closed)Back
| Title: | Reimbursements for acquisition and setup of Dashtalk |
| Owner: | babygiraffe |
| One-time payment: | 1037 DASH (31199 USD) |
| Completed payments: | no payments occurred yet (1 month remaining) |
| Payment start/end: | 2016-04-06 / 2016-05-21 (added on 2016-03-29) |
| Final voting deadline: | in passed |
| Votes: | 750 Yes / 263 No / 0 Abstain |
| External information: | www.dashwhale.org/p/dashtalk-acquisition |
Proposal description
Dashtalk.org has been a valuable resource for the Dash community and contains a great deal of our community's collective history, work, creativity, and ideas. However, Dashtalk was actually started by a community member (like Dashwhale) at their own expense. However, because the core team didn't control this asset, whenever outages, expired certificates, or other issues have occurred, we have been dependent on the owner to fix the issues. If you use the forums as a resource, I'm sure you've noticed the many outages it has experienced lately. As the database continues to grow, the value of Dashtalk to the community - and our dependence on it - only increases, so it was critical for us to control it.
I am pleased to share that the core team has negotiated the purchase of Dashtalk and the forum historical database and is working to transition / import the entire site to Dash control, while upgrading the versions of software it is running on. This is great news for the community that we were able to preserve the site in its entirety for a reasonable cost.
This proposal is a consolidated set of costs to acquire Dashtalk including:
- The purchase of Dashtalk's database and domains
- The purchase of necessary software to permit hosting of the forums ourselves
- XenForo license
- XenCentral
- Design expenses
- Cost of submitting this proposal
Note that there are no costs included except for direct costs incurred by the team. We are only asking for reimbursement, and no costs for labor. Tungfa, moocowmoo, and fernando have been working very hard behind the scenes to make this all happen.
Please vote to reimburse these guys for their costs!
I used an exchange rate of $7.12 / Dash for all expenses (based on the average market price on March 27th, the most recent available). The community members being reimbursed assume all currency volatility risk.
babygiraffe
I am pleased to share that the core team has negotiated the purchase of Dashtalk and the forum historical database and is working to transition / import the entire site to Dash control, while upgrading the versions of software it is running on. This is great news for the community that we were able to preserve the site in its entirety for a reasonable cost.
This proposal is a consolidated set of costs to acquire Dashtalk including:
- The purchase of Dashtalk's database and domains
- The purchase of necessary software to permit hosting of the forums ourselves
- XenForo license
- XenCentral
- Design expenses
- Cost of submitting this proposal
Note that there are no costs included except for direct costs incurred by the team. We are only asking for reimbursement, and no costs for labor. Tungfa, moocowmoo, and fernando have been working very hard behind the scenes to make this all happen.
Please vote to reimburse these guys for their costs!
I used an exchange rate of $7.12 / Dash for all expenses (based on the average market price on March 27th, the most recent available). The community members being reimbursed assume all currency volatility risk.
babygiraffe
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the price is fair i think, considering the amount of 'important' data and history + with this payoff we are getting an 'easy' (noting is easy it seems) export/import done.
we are talking about this since a long long time, and we are finally at the point where it all makes sense.
dashtalk is/was the lifeline and most important forum for the community (amazing amount of data , history,....), it is time to move and update this !
tx for the hard to work to props, fernando, moocow and others involved in this
My 2 Votes are in - Good Luck
My personal opinion is this is a kind of unfair extortion from the old forum owner, somehow ... i don't want to hurt anyones feelings with that accusation, but that's my feeling about that price.
He started it for the community and now he changed his mind, and wants money from the community to take it over, not very kind in my eyes!
At the end of the day, acquiring the site provides a lot of value relative to crawling and copying only the public content, including ownership of the domain name, and retaining the dashtalk user base.
In a way, propulsion may be a victim of Dash's success. Remember, it was launched in 2014 as darkcointalk. Knowing the internet is littered with dead forums, he probably didn't think much of its future. I mean, what kind of chance did a crypto currency with a name like "Darkcoin" really have? :)
Why are the expenses not listed here? Look at the other proposals with breakdowns of how much is getting used for each expense. Maybe most of the expense is actually the reimbursement, in which case I would feel better about a combined proposal.
What is going to be the ongoing cost of this forum? Maybe under talk.dash.org we can save on domain/hosting.
There is no ongoing extra cost for the forum. It will be hosted at servers we already have for other things. Of course, those are not free and it will take some space, but this should not be a significant amount.
In fact, we can expect some revenue. Some of us have been contacted in the last year by businesses that wanted to advertise there but were not able to reach Propulsion. He also had adwords that were only visible if you were not logged in, but the revenue of those is probably negligible.