Proposal “Weekly-keynotes-throughout-Ukraine“ (Completed)Back

Title:Dash/cryptocurrency conferences throughout Ukraine
Owner:dmitriybtc
Monthly amount: 20 DASH (5266 USD)
Completed payments: 3 totaling in 60 DASH (0 month remaining)
Payment start/end: 2017-03-20 / 2017-06-18 (added on 2017-03-12)
Final voting deadline: in passed
Votes: 561 Yes / 143 No / 10 Abstain

Proposal description

This is a brief overview of proposal. A detailed version can be found on dash forum.

Monthly conferences about cryptocurrency and Dash in Kiev and other cities of Ukraine.

Key points:
  • 3 months
  • price: 20 DASH
  • proof of work (photos, videos) on twitter and separate forum thread
  • events calendar and results on a website (https://blockchaintalks.com.ua)
  • long-term commitment
Results:

- first meetup was held on April 8th at Reikartz Zhytomyr (Zhytomyr) - report
- second meetup was held on April 20th at Hub 4.0 (Kiev) - report
- third meetup was held on April 26th at 1900Coworking (Kiev) - report
- forth meetup was held on June 17 at Optima Vinnitsia (Vinnitsia) - report

Dash presentations that were used:

https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/1*hn-khV53wKb-mAiVOvpnLw.jpeg

If you have any questions or suggestions, let me know and consider voting YES.

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Discussion: Should we fund this proposal?

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1 point,5 months ago
si es muy bueno evangelizar Dash para que cada vez mas personas la conozcan!
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0 points,6 months ago
https://dmitriybtc.com/ seams not working?
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0 points,6 months ago
Use http://dmitriybtc.com
It's working. I'm not sure why but Dashcentral adds "s" at the end :)
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0 points,6 months ago
dmitrybtc: Do you have some presentation in Russian or Ukrainian ?
We would like to see.
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0 points,6 months ago
Yeah, I sent one already a week or so ago to Russian community. I tweaked it a little bit, changed the angle. You can contact me of Twitter at dmitriybtc.
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0 points,6 months ago
Looks like this will pass and you are moving forward.

https://twitter.com/dmitriybtc/status/846021672318717955

Good to see that you will set a date soon. Please update us on forums/blog/twitter each step of the way. We would love to see the presentation material, some pictures of the many locals scanning their dash QR cards, etc.

We would love to see a video of the meetup so put a video camera up if you can.

Dash evolution is getting closer every day and this will only become easier for you as the tools for the public to use become more user friendly.
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0 points,7 months ago
Prices are OK but I find it rather strange to see $800 giveaways... It's not quite clear about donations: you ask for donation to give donations, am I right?
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0 points,7 months ago
Obviously I'm not going to giveaway $800, that's too much. I'll allocate a portion of that ($200-$300). Also some part will be allocated to make Dash related attributes (T-shirts, stickers) and create contests to make people engaged.
Donations, meaning I'll contribute to Dash developers or communities who needs it right now.
To clarify, I'm not asking for additional money to make donations to others. It's just because of the price getting higher, people started to make proposals of where the additional money should go into.
I'm not entirely sure this approach is right but I suppose some sort of method of reallocating extra funds should be created.
Otherwise, people will always judge all of us :)
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1 point,7 months ago
Yes lets stick to that $1200USD price we agreed to (pics below for proof) as the actual price for the work.

It would be smart to allocate ~$300 for Dash QR cards to promote the meetup. Think of how many people will show up if the first big group of them get free Dash after they show up and participate?

Now about those possible extra funds.

Take any extra funds and be sure you have some Dash t-shirts, stickers, informational cards, a pack of drinks/snack for people that attend, etc.

If the dash price drops a little bit, that will spend most of the funds, and if it rises a donation can always be made to Dash Core/Fondation for a few hundred dollars worth of Dash.
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2 points,7 months ago
The key here is that you are public about what you do with the extra funds, and keep in mind my tip about using maybe .1 Dash per giveaway card. So we can look at the proposal payout address and see that you are actually loading the cards, and then we will be able to see you give them out on social media to verify.

Lets keep this transparent of course, the node owners who are not sure if they will support always like to see where anything over your allocated $1200 is going.

Cheers and keep it legit mate :)
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1 point,7 months ago
yes this
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0 points,7 months ago
Sure. I will probably load those cards with smaller amounts like $10 or so. And I'll definitely come up with some verifiable way of doing so.
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0 points,7 months ago
Good to hear. After masternode owners read these comments and your thread I think many will agree this is going to work out.

https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/budget-proposal-weekly-keynotes-throughout-ukraine.13544/#post-118441
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0 points,7 months ago
We'll see. I hope so.
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0 points,6 months ago
good contact fb me: facebook.com/babydashfull
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0 points,6 months ago
It can't find you there. You can me instead - fb.me/dmitriybtc
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3 points,7 months ago
$2100/month is pretty good money for Ukraine, like 4x average monthly salary for someone working 40 hour weeks. For an engineering student busy with finals - you are not going to pull 40. Voting no. 1 month proposal, with reasonable amount, to start building up cred would be better.
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1 point,7 months ago
Please see my comments below, @dmitriybtc has agreed to accept less and slowly hand out the excess at meetups in a verifiable way.
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0 points,7 months ago
That's reasonable. I'm stunned of the price as well. Initially I posted $1k and it went crazy since then. I would change the price if that was possible, cause right now it seems rather high.

Truth to be told, this month is kind of the last one for actual study. I'll have free April and May, June is when I'll have my diploma work.
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0 points,7 months ago
btw, it depends at what industry you're working on. $1k - $2k is an average salary for IT specialist. However I absolutely agree that most of the people have lower salaries.
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1 point,7 months ago
If this goes well, and I judge that it will, I recommend you put in another proposal when this one is finished.

And if it goes very well indeed, give yourself a raise next time around. After all, you will be a proven performer then.
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0 points,7 months ago
Yeah, I'll think about that. I still need a ton of work to do but thanks to support we'll make it happen.
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3 points,7 months ago
Are we really going to pay a guy who's total history is 3 short, I like dash" posts, $1,700.00 / month so that he can spend his summer vacation traveling around ?
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0 points,7 months ago
I know that I don't have a very long history with Dash in public, so are a ton of new people who will come over the next few months. This is okay.
In fact, if nobody new comes and tries to expand the community and make Dash more valuable, what's the point of all of this then?
It seems that with such decentralized governance it's harder to trust people, especially those who you don't know but I believe we have to overcome this.
A person is a person no matter where he is from and how long his involvement with Dash is.
The money is what probably bothers you the most, and I totally understand. I didn't expect the price of coin will rise so high either. But we already agreed the Max limit so there will be a lot more Dash giveaways for newcomers.
Traveling will be a part of my plan but I suppose that's okay to go to different cities and spread the word of Dash there as well.
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0 points,7 months ago
All true (but so is the uncertainty over hiring a new, unproven community member). Seems like most people find your proposal good (including me - I voted yes). Just work your plan hard, show what you're doing, and post your deliverables.
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0 points,7 months ago
Appreciate your vote. Yeah, definitely, I'll keep updating the details of my work. A lot of things needed to be done, especially a continuous research about Dash, developing relationships with new people and marketing strategies.
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0 points,7 months ago
Please dont hesitate to come into the slack and ask some questions about Dash to help build your presentations, and be sure the information that you are spreading is correct.

I already see things coming together like a list of places to do meetups, a schedule, and I will keep my yes votes up pending the first successful meetup.
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0 points,7 months ago
Yeah, definitely. I'm going to ask questions as they arrive.
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-1 point,7 months ago
Hi Dmitriy, it is a good proposal!
I can't vote because I don't have a masternode (yet). I see you live in Kyiv and that is where I live too. Let's have a coffee somewhere, I would like to talk about this idea and other proposals we could submit to make Dash mainstream :-)
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1 point,7 months ago
Yeah, definitely. I would love that. It's so much better to work with somebody rather than by yourself :)
Add me on Facebook (dmitriybtc), let's meet when you have spare time.
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0 points,7 months ago
Added :)
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0 points,7 months ago
Sounds great! Spread the good word about Dash out there!
Fair amount of Dash, it's a great start to get involved with bigger projects! Good luck!
You got my vote!
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0 points,7 months ago
Appreciate your vote.
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1 point,7 months ago
This is so cheap compared to how gigantic our budget has become. Voted yes :)

We should look more to how much is left of the budget when voting as well. Why vote no to a lot of proposals and just burn the rest of the potential funding? Then no one gets it..
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0 points,7 months ago
Burn? Does the unspent dash get lost? Surely we need a "save it for later" feature somewhere?
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0 points,7 months ago
Yes, unused budget dash is burned as are all proposal deposits. For MN owners, it keeps them from paying for frivolous projects (not saying this is one!!!) because not producing the coins benefits coin owners by constricting supply. However, paying for good proposals benefits the project and thus the value of the coins. Hopefully, these incentives help MN owners make good decisions. :)
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0 points,7 months ago
Last note, saving coins for future projects does help, but they're slotted to a project and voted on like any other proposal. In this way, the core theam (mostly) can collect over time enough funds for very large purchases or expensive projects.
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0 points,7 months ago
I think a significant percentage of MN owners feel bad about burning the unallocated Dash. I advocate that there should be a standing monthly proposal to sock any unallocated Dash in a rainy day fund for the devs. Or split it 50/50 with dashforce and the devs.
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0 points,7 months ago
I agree. I find it hard to see the benefit in burning what might be $500,000+ worth of Dash this month (if I understand correctly how this works, I'm new here?).

I'd rather see some sort of giveaway to new users who "prove their humanity" by publishing a short video on YouTube in order to get free Dash. Or a rainy day fund for the dev team, or any number of potential uses.

Surely Dash's opportunity to capture user growth is too short to simply burn $500k per month because we couldn't figure what else to do with it?

I get the "prevent dilution" argument, but Dash is on a roll and burning such a large sum of Dash doesn't seem like the best decision for the community as a whole.
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0 points,7 months ago
Probably you're right. I'm stunned at the size of the current budget, it makes me feel uncomfortable :)
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0 points,7 months ago
Are there meetups or events that you plan to attend already? If so, will they allow you to speak? It would be best if you could tell us which events you will be attending, and if you have a speaking slot. It's always best to give us exactly what the funds are going to be used for, rather than a general idea. Like 1 5 minute video each week, or speaking at a monthly Kiev meet up, then the dance party on the Chernobyl sarcophagus ( I know, I have a TERRIBLE sense of humor, couldn't stop myself!) Forgive me! Anyway yah, or else, will you be organizing any events? We need a way to evaluate how well or even if you completed the contract. It needs to be clear what exactly you will be doing :) I'm not saying I don't want you do get this, I do, but I need you to make the contract (what you wrote above) to state what you will be doing, what events, or type and number of events you'll attend :) Thanks :D
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0 points,7 months ago
I suppose you misunderstood how I'm going to do all of this.
So I'm not planning to speak at somebody's meetings or conferences. That's my long term plan.
Instead, for now I'm planning to create meetings or events so that other people can come over.
That doesn't mean I'm not going to speak at other people's events. It simply means that I'm not on that level yet, it all takes some time.
Budget allocation I probably will do today so that other people can see what is going for.
Evaluation of how good or bad I made a presentation will be simply made my attendees on a Facebook page or some other resource that I may accidentally find. Also I'll record the presentation on video, make some photos and put all of the on a blog.
This weekend I'll meet a few people in crypto space. I'll let everybody know how it went. As always it will be on my blog.
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0 points,7 months ago
I support your proposal and will vote yes. I live in Cherkassy, Ukraine during the summer. If your proposal passes, please provide your speaking schedule. I will personally attend your Cherkassy presentation and bring some people, assuming you can schedule a presentation in Cherkassy sometime after May 15th. Good luck!
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0 points,7 months ago
Thanks, that is so awesome to know that there are people from Ukraine in Dash community as well. I love it. I'll definitely considering going to Cherkassy.
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1 point,7 months ago
One difficulty I have about presentation-based proposals (not unique to yours) is in knowing how we evaluate that you (or anyone) understand enough about Dash accurately to provide a technically correct representation of it? How can the community vet your knowledge so that we're not inadvertently supporting dis-information?
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0 points,7 months ago
By creating a website where;

- all presentations are announced (tour scheme),
- live presentations are video- or audio-streamed
- people are invited to give feedback after the presentation by means of a survey and or feedback

This could give a good insight and will give the possibility to make the presentations better and better.
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0 points,7 months ago
Good points. That's exactly my plan to be honest :)
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0 points,7 months ago
That's an interesting question. I suppose it depends on the depth of technical stuff that a person will present.

In my case, I don't want to talk a lot about very low-level deep information about Dash but instead to show people who have never heard about crypto an alternative financial system which already works.

My main focus will be to:
1) Introduce people to the world of digital currency in the simplest way that will make total sense to them.
2) Emphasize on importance of usability and problems with mass adoption in this space.
3) How Dash and Dash Evolution is going to change this and what problems it already solved (instant transaction confirmation, privacy, a very unique infrastructure, voting and budgeting system).

By the way, I recently had an idea of publishing the text/script of my presentations on my blog so that you all can check it out.

What's your thoughts on this one?
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0 points,7 months ago
I agree that non-techie level material is helpful. Some sort of outline for review would be good, maybe some slides you might create that depict the core concepts effectively. Even some Dash source documents you plan to work from. More broadly, it might even be helpful to the community to start building some kind of deliverable set to use and make available for others too even. Perhaps they could begin a set of known resources of community-reviewed materials, available open source for other groups to draw upon and improve. They could then be relied upon for presenting concise, accurate, and effective information based on experience. Just some ideas, but whatever you are thinking to show would at least speak to my point..
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1 point,7 months ago
I'll definitely come up with something solid. I'm going to spend a good chunk of time doing research at how Visa, Mastercard, PayPal, ApplePay and similar innovations were making marketing. Because I bet Dash Evolution is going to be the next one.
Besides it is very interesting to tap into psychology of how to market to general public, even if the product haven't been launched yet. In any case I'll keep sharing the progress on my blog so that you know.
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0 points,7 months ago
If the proposal passes I would like to see the results of this published weekly.
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0 points,7 months ago
Sure, I've already started to write my whole process on a blog (medium.com/@dmitriybtc)
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0 points,7 months ago
you put in good work, i'm voting yes. good luck.
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0 points,7 months ago
Thank you so much for your support
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1 point,7 months ago
I agree with kevmate(below) and would like to see a little more development. I would like to see the continued social media presence and website development to know that you will be serious and giving out the right information. I see you are on the #proposals channel in the Dash Slack Chat. I hope to see some discussion there and a little more plan of action. My vote will depend on if you can pull this off in a feasible way that will help others and help Dash.

Some looming questions. What venues will you book to speak? Will this be costly? How will you get people to show up and be interested? What kind of presentation will you be giving and is it factual / logical? (perhaps ask some questions in slack about your presentation or let us see the script)

I like the idea, I hope to see you stay engaged with the Dash community on here, proposal dash forums, and #proposal channel in Slack. This will be your best chance at getting approved! Good luck and keep up the hard work.
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1 point,7 months ago
1) My main venues will be coworking spaces, we have a bunch of them.

2) This week I'm planning to contact most of them to figure out the details. Usually there's some cost involved but not that big.

3) I will start with low hanging fruit and ask my friends to share the details of event with others. Also usually all of those coworking spaces have a website where they put up information about upcoming events so that people know in advance. Plus I might do Facebook ads to target people with certain interests and certain areas.

4) I'm thinking on presentation style right now. I want it to be very simple to understand and digest because not many people know about cryptocurrency.

5) As a start I will do it on Russian and after I get comfortable I'll do it for foreigners but I will definitely ask questions on slack so don't worry about that.

Also I'm trying to figure out the best way to share my progress, maybe I'll create a YouTube channel which will add an extra layer of hassle, fun and transparency on me :)

I know this is all challenging and takes lots of preparation but it is very exciting as well.
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2 points,7 months ago
This does look promising, and yes we would certainly like to see a short meetup video (perhaps a camera that just records the group).

A few people do this that this is a bit expensive (and the dash price continues to go up). I hope you will consider that dash cards loaded with funds to burn some that we discussed on slack. Maybe have some fun on social media giving a few of them out.

Hope to see some lovely screen shots (and of course be sure not to accidentally share those private keys on the internet in a picture).
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1 point,7 months ago
Yeah, definitely. I'm creating a nice strategy of how to record all of that and keep it valuable for the Dash community in one place. The idea with cards is definitely awesome. Just in case so everybody knows I'm starting from April so right now this is my time of preparation (scripts, website, organizational process etc). So any idea that you might have will be very well appreciated.
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1 point,7 months ago
Other proposal readers, please join the Dash Nation Slack Chatroom and join #proposals - we are discussing now and good ideas are forming.
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1 point,7 months ago
I think this will work out. Voting yes for now (but we do need to see good updates and development). Let's keep it legitimate. See screenshots of slack discussion below.

http://imgur.com/a/4vLRY

Keep up the good work, good luck!
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1 point,7 months ago
Yeah, definitely. Thanks for your support a lot.
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2 points,7 months ago
Posting this here just in case the image (above) is take down from imgur.

The agreement between the Dash community and @dmitriybtc is a max of $1200 USD per month, for 3 months, with all excess funds donated in the form of "Dash QR Cards" (Paper Wallets) either at meetups or on social media to gain attention for meetups.

When the Dash funds arrive to the proposal address the community will be able to see how they are spent! Please load the cards using a simple amount like .25 Dash so this can be easily verified. So excited to see some pretty Dash QR Cards being handed to those eager to learn about cryptocurrency.

Thank you again for working with the community to come to a reasonable goal. Will check back in soon to see how things are going and please feel free to share your presentation ideas in the slack chat.
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2 points,7 months ago
Yeah, you're totally right. We agreed on such terms.

It will be a very interesting process for me and for others as well.

By the way, I'm moving towards creating a Vlog where I'll document this whole process and my journey with Dash. It will be absolutely fun and educational to watch it 2 months from now.

What do you think about this idea?
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1 point,7 months ago
I think that's a great idea, but remember not to take on too much of a workload that you cannot handle. Choose a few things - presentation(writing/display), social media, and vlog/blog. But not much more than that, keep this feasible, and something you can accomplish each day.

Slow and steady wins the race.

I think you know the best ways to appeal to your community, and have the farthest reach possible as you are a local and know the area.
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0 points,7 months ago
Yeah, for sure. I totally understand. It is a lot better to do a few things good rather then a lot of thing poorly.
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1 point,7 months ago
In theory its a good idea. I think Ukraine needs a bit of Dash, but you sound naive. You imagine that since you know about a couple of other crypto-currencies you have what you need. How are you going to get the knowledge and training to build a convincing presentation? Give me the top ten reasons you think Dash rules the world and we will see what people make of them (in order, least important first, please)
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1 point,7 months ago
I'm not telling that I'm the best because nobody is. But over the last few years from all of the presentations of different projects people tend to like my style because it is simple, clear and full of energy.

As for the knowledge and training thanks God we have Internet and Amanda's videos, various blog post on the web etc. And I have a very great group of friends who are leading developers and cryptocurrency enthusiasts.

My main purpose of presentations is not to talk about deep technical stuff because nobody will care and understand it. My main goal though is to show people an alternative of the current financial system, and how can they incorporate Dash specifically into their life and/or business.

As I already told, I will make presentations for different sectors, and my core strategy will be to find their biggest problems and offer them sweet solutions.

For instance, the biggest problems in retail are chargebacks, fraud, big transaction fees (3-4%), a lack of consistent flow of new and returning customers.

By thinking from this perspective I can say that Dash can eliminate chargebacks, secure their payments, reduce trx fees, create a brand new type of clients etc. Obviously it's a very short sample, we can dig deeper and find even more.

So my point is that we have to approach different types of people with distinct angle that will speak directly to them. Also one of the keys will be to present them a Dash Evolution, even though it's not even an Alpha version yet. I always found it's better to show people that cryptocurrency space is working, it's just the absence of apps that is the main cause of its slow growth.

And yeah, here's my top 10 reasons of why I think Dash rules the world:

10) Although there are 3 types of cryptos that have a privacy feature (Dash, Monero, ZCash), Dash is the only one that can be used by normal human beings, not nerds. Monero is kind of like Linux, and ZCash don't even have a wallet yet.
9) It is the only cryptocurrency that actually cares about user experience, even with the current Dash wallet. Coinbase is the only one that makes crypto easy to use but still it is a 3-rd party.
8) Dash is the only network that pays for running full nodes which is fairly important.
7) Dash is the first real working DAO and their approach to take what is already working and make it decentralized rather than creating something from scratch is phenomenal.
6) Dash has one of the strongest, most secure and sybil-resistant networks.
5) Amanda B Johnson. No comments :)
4) Dash is the only network that is funded by its Blockchain. Thus it cares about developers, marketers, managers, and long-term strategy. Basically Dash is the only one who can survive independently from the other companies or networks because their governance model is mind-boggling.
3) Dash will be the first non 3-rd party service that will pay you interest. That alone eliminates the necessity to have a bank account.
2) Dash is the only one who cares about merchants and small businesses who need an instant transaction's confirmation.
1) Dash is the only one who cares about everything that non of the rest of cryptocurrencies don't. They are doing things right.

P.S. Most of the items apparently are applied for Dash Evolution specifically but that's a good thing I guess. And probably there are a lot more, I may miss some.

I hope this this clarification helps you at some extent.
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0 points,7 months ago
Haha, that's a whole article, I didn't notice the size of it :)
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0 points,7 months ago
you know what - I like it. I'm with GTL (below). it will be good to have another ambassador, and we can certainly afford it. I think the guy is a bit "us"
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0 points,7 months ago
thank you @kevmate
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0 points,7 months ago
Nice proposal! Good luck to you :)
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0 points,7 months ago
Thanks, I will need that a lot :)
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0 points,7 months ago
You will be fine. Im looking forward to watching this one now :)
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0 points,7 months ago
I would vote no, normally.
But right now, the added value (given the insane budget...) that you can bring > 0, and there are not enough proposals to cover the budget.

Also you took a risk by paying 5 dash on a very low request. You have my nodes
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0 points,7 months ago
Thank, I'm really grateful for your choice.
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0 points,7 months ago
I vote yes, 20 DASH is nothing compared to what this might bring us back down the line.
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0 points,7 months ago
Thanks a lot. I really appreciate your vote.
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