Proposal “The_Show_That_Launched_Bitcoin“ (Closed)Back
| Title: | THE_SHOW_THAT_LAUNCHED_BITCOIN - Please vote down |
| Owner: | medgeftl |
| Monthly amount: | 100 DASH (3003 USD) |
| Completed payments: | no payments occurred yet (12 month remaining) |
| Payment start/end: | 2017-03-20 / 2018-03-13 (added on 2017-03-12) |
| Final voting deadline: | in passed |
| Votes: | 198 Yes / 462 No / 47 Abstain |
Proposal description
<Thank you to everyone, We decided it would be better to work with the core team on an option where the core team would escrow the funds and work with Free Talk Live so that we could build a track record and show some results. Everyone here has been great. Thank you. >
I propose that you let Free Talk Live, the nationally syndicated radio program, that both Gavin Andresen and Roger Ver credit as initially launching Bitcoin*, work for Dash to bring the message to hundreds of thousands of people, that in many cases, have never heard of an alt-coin.
First: Dash has a HUGE advantage over other cryptos with it's built-in marketing dollars. If all other things are equal, this gives Dash a huge advantage. Second: This is an unusual way to present an ad campaign. So, I hope you will be merciful in your understanding if it isn't perfect the first go around :).
Free Talk Live is not just a podcast with 13+ million downloads. It is a radio program on 150+ US radio stations, with 300,000+ weekly listeners. We are the largest liberty oriented audio program in the world.
I spoke to Amanda B. Johnson at Anarchapulco and she convinced me that Dash is a viable project. I had not taken a stance up to that point, but Dash's recent successes back this up. I am ready, willing and able to lend the power and reach of Free Talk Live to this new and exciting technical upgrade in the world of Crypto-tokens. I am going to offer you our Major Sponsorship Package.
This will get you:
- 1 Live Read per night. This in-show content, our premium product, is not for sale to anyone whom we do not endorse. I will handle the writing and periodic re-writing of this and keep it fresh.
- 3 :30 radio ads per show, for 13 weeks.
I will work with Amanda to get these voiced and keep them fresh and timely (she is an incredible talent and has agreed to help).
- Banners – a small banner on every page of freetalklive.com and a large banner on one of the most visited pages. I will have these produced.
- Facebook –Periodic Facebook posts on our page with 91k+ likes.
- Streams – We maintain 2 primary streams, they are far and removed the most professional liberty-oriented internet radio stations, with thousands of listeners a month. Your :30 second ads will rotate 5-10x per day on these streams which are syndicated on dozens of internet radio stations and broadcast on 2 satellites to North America, Central America and Africa.
We intend to use the Dash that we earn to set up a Master Node, when we have enough. We are in for the long-haul and want this new exciting technology to be as widespread and successful as Bitcoin and more.
In her video, Amanda B. Johnson, suggests giving real-world contact info for us. We are on the air 7 nights a week at 1-855-450-3733. If we fail to do as promised, it is gonna be real embarrassing to deal with an angry Dash call flood. So far, in 15 years, we haven’t had an advertiser feel like we failed to play their ads.
https://www.facebook.com/mark.edge.79
https://twitter.com/1Medge1
https://twitter.com/FreeTalkLive
It took me a couple of hours to get this up, I apologize. I will check back daily to answer questions.
*In January 2011.Gavin Andresen, who was a subscriber and donor to our show wanted to meet for lunch and talk about a new currency. We focused on alternative currencies as a way to free oneself, in part, from a dominant and evil banking system. We liked the idea of Bitcoin, although we were still somewhat skeptical. I offered to let Gavin buy ads for the currency, becoming in that moment the first ad venue in the world, and likely the largest business, to accept Bitcoin. He
didn’t do that, but he did pay me for his meal in Bitcoin, around 45 btc.
We spoke about Bitcoin on the air that night, and Roger Ver, an advertiser and listener, heard it and started investigating, making Ian (my longtime Co-Host) and me Bitcoin John the Baptist.
These are their quotes: "Many of the earliest Bitcoin adopters first learned about it through Free Talk Live...I'm convinced that is one of the sparks that turned acrazy little open source software project into a multi-billion dollar industry."
-Gavin Andresen, Bitcoin Head Developer
"FTL is the premier voice for the peace and liberty Bitcoin will bring to the world. By broadcasting this message since 2011...FTL has been instrumental in creating the widespread adoption that we have today."
-RogerVer, CEO Bitcoin.com, aka Bitcoin Jesus
** I made this proposal on like March 4th. Dash price was ~$40. This is intended to be a $4000 proposal. Since the price has gone up dramatically, I will take the extra and put it towards (1st) more ads on my show. (2nd) ads on GCNlive.com, my syndicate. This should use the money as wisely as I can. I have been doing radio marketing for nearly 20 years. I will do my best with the money that is entrusted to me. If the price exceeds $150, I will Post PLEASE DOWN VOTE in the title.
I propose that you let Free Talk Live, the nationally syndicated radio program, that both Gavin Andresen and Roger Ver credit as initially launching Bitcoin*, work for Dash to bring the message to hundreds of thousands of people, that in many cases, have never heard of an alt-coin.
First: Dash has a HUGE advantage over other cryptos with it's built-in marketing dollars. If all other things are equal, this gives Dash a huge advantage. Second: This is an unusual way to present an ad campaign. So, I hope you will be merciful in your understanding if it isn't perfect the first go around :).
Free Talk Live is not just a podcast with 13+ million downloads. It is a radio program on 150+ US radio stations, with 300,000+ weekly listeners. We are the largest liberty oriented audio program in the world.
I spoke to Amanda B. Johnson at Anarchapulco and she convinced me that Dash is a viable project. I had not taken a stance up to that point, but Dash's recent successes back this up. I am ready, willing and able to lend the power and reach of Free Talk Live to this new and exciting technical upgrade in the world of Crypto-tokens. I am going to offer you our Major Sponsorship Package.
This will get you:
- 1 Live Read per night. This in-show content, our premium product, is not for sale to anyone whom we do not endorse. I will handle the writing and periodic re-writing of this and keep it fresh.
- 3 :30 radio ads per show, for 13 weeks.
I will work with Amanda to get these voiced and keep them fresh and timely (she is an incredible talent and has agreed to help).
- Banners – a small banner on every page of freetalklive.com and a large banner on one of the most visited pages. I will have these produced.
- Facebook –Periodic Facebook posts on our page with 91k+ likes.
- Streams – We maintain 2 primary streams, they are far and removed the most professional liberty-oriented internet radio stations, with thousands of listeners a month. Your :30 second ads will rotate 5-10x per day on these streams which are syndicated on dozens of internet radio stations and broadcast on 2 satellites to North America, Central America and Africa.
We intend to use the Dash that we earn to set up a Master Node, when we have enough. We are in for the long-haul and want this new exciting technology to be as widespread and successful as Bitcoin and more.
In her video, Amanda B. Johnson, suggests giving real-world contact info for us. We are on the air 7 nights a week at 1-855-450-3733. If we fail to do as promised, it is gonna be real embarrassing to deal with an angry Dash call flood. So far, in 15 years, we haven’t had an advertiser feel like we failed to play their ads.
https://www.facebook.com/mark.edge.79
https://twitter.com/1Medge1
https://twitter.com/FreeTalkLive
It took me a couple of hours to get this up, I apologize. I will check back daily to answer questions.
*In January 2011.Gavin Andresen, who was a subscriber and donor to our show wanted to meet for lunch and talk about a new currency. We focused on alternative currencies as a way to free oneself, in part, from a dominant and evil banking system. We liked the idea of Bitcoin, although we were still somewhat skeptical. I offered to let Gavin buy ads for the currency, becoming in that moment the first ad venue in the world, and likely the largest business, to accept Bitcoin. He
didn’t do that, but he did pay me for his meal in Bitcoin, around 45 btc.
We spoke about Bitcoin on the air that night, and Roger Ver, an advertiser and listener, heard it and started investigating, making Ian (my longtime Co-Host) and me Bitcoin John the Baptist.
These are their quotes: "Many of the earliest Bitcoin adopters first learned about it through Free Talk Live...I'm convinced that is one of the sparks that turned acrazy little open source software project into a multi-billion dollar industry."
-Gavin Andresen, Bitcoin Head Developer
"FTL is the premier voice for the peace and liberty Bitcoin will bring to the world. By broadcasting this message since 2011...FTL has been instrumental in creating the widespread adoption that we have today."
-RogerVer, CEO Bitcoin.com, aka Bitcoin Jesus
** I made this proposal on like March 4th. Dash price was ~$40. This is intended to be a $4000 proposal. Since the price has gone up dramatically, I will take the extra and put it towards (1st) more ads on my show. (2nd) ads on GCNlive.com, my syndicate. This should use the money as wisely as I can. I have been doing radio marketing for nearly 20 years. I will do my best with the money that is entrusted to me. If the price exceeds $150, I will Post PLEASE DOWN VOTE in the title.
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he found "that most of these that are successful usually do it within a very closed geographic area or a very closed marketplace where buyers and sellers can easily find each other."
I'm not part of the freetalk community, haven't been part of the freestate project, gone to PorcFest but I've seen how hard that group tried to make Bitcoin work for themselves. This community seems like a great candidate to be early adaptors of Dash.
Looks to me like Free Talk Live could really help bring merchants and consumers together in an established alternative marketplace.
Pablo.
Look at other proposal from Dash promoters that have passed, this size budget is not needed.
I could nearly get us a 30 second slot during primetime television on major networks nationwide each month (NBC). That would be a massive number of screens. See picture below with a screenshot from the ad agency I have been emailing with.
http://imgur.com/a/Ox5BD
Vs. national cable ads. Our ads are endorsement ads and that means a lot. Our audience has built a relationship with us over 15 years. Also, we can change our ads up quickly and cheaply, TV can't. TV watchers tend to be old and female, crypto users do not. These 30s would be HOURLY, repetition sells, reach does not. Reach is good for awareness, but there are LOTS of companies that put out one Super Bowl ad and are out of business now.
So I take it, you have a large audience of tech oriented folks? Can you give me a source to verify those listener numbers?
What do you charge others to advertise? The 12 month duration at this high of a rate bothers me and I don't think I can support something that long term. Give me an example of another person or company that has used your advertising (long term).
Thanks for the responses, I will do more research and continue to consider.
1st, if you want to put in the proposal for a TV ad buy, I will help with creative and placement. I have done this for nearly 20 years.
NO! Our audience is general interest on the radio. Our podcast listeners (125,000 downloads a month) are more likely to be younger and tech oriented. I don't pay the $30k a year for Neilson numbers, but my estimates from seeing some numbers and experience is 300,000 weekly radio listeners. Satellite is anyone's guess.
The Major Sponsor Package is $11830 for 13 weeks. Well, Roger Ver used us to promote Bitcoin since 2011. That has gone pretty well :). The Free State Project used us for like 10 years to promote signers and their events. They gave us a trophy last year to thank us for our help and said that we were responsible for a full 1/4 of their signers. Is that good enough?
You can call in any night an grill us a bit too. 1-855-450-3733. I won't be on for 3 weeks, but there will be qualified hosts on every night.
For more advertising info.
To other readers, PLEASE go through everything with a fine tooth comb and reconsider if you have already voted.
I am currently reevaluating all of this info, will get back with a 2nd vote decision in the near future.
Please resubmit a 3 month proposal or shorter term and I will vote yes, and if things work out would vote yes again to renew for evolution release.
HINT: Take a look at how we sponsor Crypto Show in Austin, TX https://www.dashcentral.org/p/Radio_Sponsorship
Some inspiration for you, and a glimpse into what the community likes to see.
Danny Sessom is a friend. We rode over night from Acapulco to Mexico City in a jalopy with no gas. Fun times.
This proposal system is kind of learn as you go. Mark I would say if you don't get it don't be discouraged take the feedback from voters and come back with something they like. I'm noticing the 12 months is an issue with some of the voters. Even Amanda's proposals are only 6 months and she's dedicated full time to a Dash only production. Good luck guys and welcome aboard.
Unfortunately, I agree with the others that 12 Months is too long based on having no track record. 1-3 months initially would pass with a reduced budget. If all goes well then no problem to extend :)
12 month contracts would usually be reserved for long standing partnerships. I can guarantee you that if Amanda B Johnson submitted a 12 month proposal it would pass no problems as she has a proven track record.
I would like to see a good sized banner like the crypto show has except just the standard DASH logo but with Dash.org.
https://www.dash.org/assets/img/graphics/dash_logo_s.png
You can't control the price but even the 4k sounds a bit high. If the price was lowered a bit next time and the time duration shortened and the logo properly placed you would have my votes. If everything went well the first 3 month cycle i would vote for 4k the next time.
In short, I am voting NO now, but if you resubmit a 1-2 month proposal I may change my votes to YES.
2. We are putting our endorsement on the line here. You may not have heard of us, and that is completely fair, but to our 150+ radio stations, what we say is extraordinarily important. 12 months is meant to be a gesture by the Dash community to show fidelity to our show, like we intend to show to Dash.
It frankly, looks bad when we bring on an endorsement advertiser and they drop off in a few weeks. I want to avoid that.12 month commitments are pretty common in my business.
It cost me $300+ to make this proposal, and paying to make a proposal is pretty uncommon for me. I hope that shows my commitment level and I hope you will consider giving us a shot at Promoting Dash to a large audience for the long term.
Anyway, nothing precludes you from creating a new proposal after 1-2 months if the first proposal is successful. This is how other long term marketing proposals have worked in the past. This gives the proposal owner a chance to adjust to USD value of Dash.
In short, the issue is that Dash is worth 4x more now than it was a few weeks ago, in 12 months in could be worth 5x or 10x more -- as such long proposals have an additional burden of explaining why they think we should pay them more (likely a lot more in USD) in the future. A shorter proposal doesn't have this burden and you still may get 12 month worth of funds if things go well.
Just my 2cents. Others may disagree.
https://www.dash.org/forum/topic/pre-budget-proposal-discussions.93/
Then create the proposal which already has a positive response there. Changes that are likely to help imo. A shorter contract. A contract with the endorsement of a core team member. Possibly a contract denominated in dollars payed for by the core team from a marketing budget approved by the MNOs.
If Ryan Taylor comes back with a 3 month marketing proposal to fund FTL ads I would expect it to pass.
I want to vote yes, but I will abstain. If you resubmit with a much shorter time frame, and the $4000 you intended I will support it.
So please resubmit with 2-3 months and then I will vote yes (We will reimburse the cost of booth proposals). Additionally it is always a good idea to discuss a proposal before submitting it to be able to avoid such things.
I am certainly confident that my show will bring a great deal of new attention to Dash. Confidence can sound insulting, especially in writing, but it is not my intention to insult you or Dash. I just want to work for you and am confident in my ability to deliver.
I haven't taken sides, like some in the Dash, Monero, Z-cash debate, but I would say that Dash's built in marketing dollars mean that it could truly crush all other cryptos, all things being equal.
Thanks for the open mind!
SEE?! I can be convincing! :-D
really badly ,,,
I really think this is Very necessary
An argument could be made that we don't need ANY additional advertising at the moment. I don't buy that argument, but I get why some people would feel that way. But, if the Evolution roll out is as big as we suspect, THEN we will want more exposure to the everyday Jane and Joe out there.
I think you are ideally placed to promote us to your tech savvy audience. We could have a long and glorious relationship in which we both benefit greatly.
I just can't sign on to a one year contract.
And come have a chat on the slack channel so we can get to know you better. If the conversation goes well on the Slack channel, you are extremely likely to get your proposal funded. So, win or lose on this cycle, give us a chance to interact and give you helpful feedback before you publish the next proposal. Let's go on a couple dates at least before you propose to marry us.