Proposal “Proposal-Reporting“ (Active)Back

Title:Summary Reporting and Commentary on All Dash Proposals on a Monthly Basis by the Mason Brothers
Owner:craigmason
Monthly amount: 20 DASH (11200 USD)
Completed payments: 1 totaling in 20 DASH (2 month remaining)
Payment start/end: 2017-10-18 / 2018-01-16 (added on 2017-10-15)
Votes: 796 Yes / 84 No / 26 Abstain
Will be funded: Yes
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Proposal description

|EDITS:
|10/16/17: fixed some typos of omitted spaces from original copy/paste.
|10/16/17: added detail and link to new crypto-focused YouTube Channel where videos will be posted.
|10/29/17: added October video!


Hello everybody! First off, thank you all who provided feedback and encouraged us to go forward with this project! We hope we can help the Dash community foster an ongoing useful discussion of what makes great proposals that make Dash great! Here's a quick video introduction in which we discuss our process in arriving at the final proposal as described below: 


Without further ado, here is our proposal in its entirety:

Abstract: we (Craig Mason and Paul Mason) propose to research and provide commentary upon Dash budget proposals on a monthly
basis in a video format as well as a brief summary of our findings in writing. In doing so, we believe that this proposal will provide a win-win outcome in terms of efficiency for Dash MasterNode Owners (MNOs) as each MNO requires similar information in order to make informed decisions when voting on budget proposals. We will opine upon proposals based on their apparent long-term value proposition for Dash. We believe that we are qualified to do so based on our past performance, dedication to reason and evidence, and ability to communicate
these concepts in a useful manner. In doing so, we believe that we can save Dash MNOs tens of thousands of dollars in value for a fraction of the cost.  

Goal: we will research, briefly summarize,and provide our resulting personal opinions for all Dash budget proposals each month in order to provide Master Node Owners with succinct and useful information in order to simplify and assist decision making in the voting process.

Deliverables: Each month we will research each Dash budget proposal and create a video in which we summarize and discuss each proposal as well as provide our personal opinions as to how we would vote were we to have masternodes. We will also provide a brief written synopsis of our findings containing similar information. 

Who are we: we are two brothers, Craig & Paul Mason, with a YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/c/craigmason) in which we discuss a variety of topics including cryptocurrencies, philosophy, and the world. Craig is an accountant with a master’s degree who has consulted with a variety of small businesses over the last 10 years and has previously started and sold an accounting firm. Paul is a chef by trade and has a degree in philosophy. Both of us are students of philosophy, logic, and reason for many years prior to beginning our channel. (Examples of previous work linked below in the “Examples” section.)  

Background: Dash’s budget proposal function allows for decentralized decision making by MNOs, who have the incentive to make decisions for the long-term best interest of Dash’s value and continued adoption. However, with Dash’s continuing strong growth and its increasing budget, proposals continue to increase, not only in quantity, but in complexity and magnitude as well.

As a result,in order to make fully informed decisions, MNO’s would be forced to spend potentially hours each month researching and considering each proposal before making their votes.

In areas in which significant amounts (in terms of sheer magnitude) of new or changing information are relevant to an industry or group, i.e. perhaps the significance of new tax legislation to an accounting firm, other firms, which specialize in research and analysis, often provide value to such a group, in this example to accounting firms, by providing a reliable “distillation” of the new legislation down to its key points and implications.

Such an arrangement allows for far greater efficiency for the entire group than if each member were forced to do the research independently, as each individual member of the group is seeking essentially the same information. Thus the entire group of firms gains value from such an arrangement. 

Value: when we apply the above principle regarding outsourced research to Dash, we can see that there is a similar
potential for benefit: 

Assuming only 1,000 MNOs out of 4,500+ masternodes cast votes in total, and if each voting MNO were to spend an average 1.5 hours researching and deciding on all proposals could be reduced by only a third (from 1.5 hours to 1 hour), the resulting savings would equate to a total of 500 man hours. Assuming the average value of an MNOs time is worth $40/hour this saves a gross reduction of $20,000/month in MNOs time. We believe this is a conservative estimate of the value we provide and will be asking for well less than half of this amount.

Additionally,many MNOs simply may not have the time or desire to research each proposal each month. As a result, MNOs may cast votes which result in a sub-optimal allocation of Dash’s budget. If, as a result of the research proposed herein, MNOs can make even slightly more informed decisions, which result in only a .001% improvement in Dash’s market value (currently more than $2 billion as of the writing of this proposal), the value of such a result would be approximately $20,000. 

Cost: 18.333 Dash/month + 5 Dash for reimbursement for the proposal fee for a total of 20 Dash/month over 3 months. One MNO suggested that we charge 30 Dash/month, but we feel that the proposed amount is adequate compensation for the proposed scope of work. 

Examples of previous work:

Previous Dash Proposal Videos:
October 2017: https://youtu.be/lJwkuuZ_YHA
September 2017: https://youtu.be/AtxRKYg_Xps
August 2017: https://youtu.be/qkfMhgh8cVg
July 2017: https://youtu.be/3ZwIedj7GDE

Other Dash videos we’ve made:
Why Dash Keep Getting Better: https://youtu.be/My7l1cAXm_E
On The Dash Community: https://youtu.be/Icrc76zWqBw
Can Dash Compete With Bitcoin Cash?: https://youtu.be/956qdG42MgE
Max Keiser Should Join Up With Dash: https://youtu.be/f44hwWaBxGY
What’s The Deal With The Dash “Instamine”?: https://youtu.be/UncqwuxCmJQ
Max Keiser Dash Bus Tour Proposal Analysis: https://youtu.be/QZ07sXrvVcM  

Criteria Upon Which Proposals Will Be Evaluated:
All proposals will be evaluated based on their solely on our expectations of long run value to the Dash network. We believe that the more reasonable methodology to do so is by considering the estimated long-term return on investment (ROI) which takes into account the
potential benefit that may be realized in relation to the costs. More specifically, we believe the following factors contribute to increasing Dash’s
value in the long run:
    
·Potential for increased adoption: any cryptocurrency only survives and thrives with a significant network effect – will the proposal potentially cause those unfamiliar with Dash to begin using it? I.e. does it bring awareness of Dash to actual potential users (i.e. properly targeted) who may be interested such a product? Does it do so in a way consistent with principles of sales and marketing which are likely to lead to actual adoption and use (i.e. repeated exposure)? (Examples include: targeted advertising, outreach to targeted communities, etc.)

·Potential for increased use/stickiness: there is an adage in business that we believe to be true which is as follows: it takes far less resources to keep a current customer than to get a new one – Does the proposal help in making current (and especially new) users able to use or find out about Dash more easily? (Examples include: Dash focused media resources such as Dash Force News, region or language specific resources for developing local communities, translations of existing resources, etc.) 

·Potential for increased value to the Dash network itself: only products that are valuable succeed attain sustainable market share in the
long run – does the proposal help Dash provide more value to its users? (i.e. does it make Dash more user friendly, more secure, more robust, or in some other way a better product for users in general?) (Examples include: the Dash bug bounty program, software development, etc.)

·Likelihood that proposal owners will perform as expected/promised and expected results will materialize: as we have seen in the cryptocurrency markets themselves as well as our own personal experiences both in business and in life, not all projects go as initially expected. As others have suggested, we will consider this factor by taking into account each proposal owners qualifications, experience, history with the Dash community, past performance as well as the specificity of their plans to both perform as well has manage the funds to be received and amend or discount our opinions of the future value of each project accordingly.

Potential Risks (and Proposed Mitigating Factors) with this Proposal:      

·Potential for maligned incentives
: were we to accept donations from known proposal owners may create incentive to review those proposal owners more favorably than reviews based on perceived merit alone. If you’ve seen The Big Short, this potential problem is clearly evidenced when it comes to light that the rating agencies are paid by big banks, and thus become incentivized to rate their products favorably.

Proposed solution: we will not be accepting donations from any known proposal owners. Previously we have received less than 0.5 Dash in unsolicited donations the majority of which was from one proposal owner. Prior to the close of voting on this proposal we will either return those funds to the donor or donate the funds to another cause unrelated to Dash.

While it’s likely that we will open up our channel to accepting donations in general in the future (potentially even during the course of this proposal), we will both disclose and return or donate forward to others (if we’re unable to return) any donations received prior to or during the course of the performance of this proposal from those who are known to us to be proposal owners. (Currently, the only donations we receive have been via the Dash Slack “tip bot” which were unsolicited.)

Additionally, we will disclose all other income received related to our channel(s) (i.e. income from media related activities, not including other personal income or personal investments in cryptocurrencies or otherwise) from any other sources during the course of the performance of this proposal on a monthly basis.

Furthermore, while we believe we are taking significant steps in order to remove as much personal bias and maligned incentives as is reasonably possible, we believe that a variety of perspectives and opinions is necessary in order to gain a more accurate view of any situation. We hope that others will follow suit in what we’re doing and provide their own perspectives in order to best serve the Dash community and the long-term value of Dash in general.

As we have stated many times on our channel, we believe values are at the root of making good decisions. We believe that transparency is a key value to for a venture such as this, and as such, we will strive to make our venture as transparent as possible to everyone involved.

·Centralization of media sources andpotential censorship: if you have seen our previous content related to other topics, you’ll have
noticed that we don’t shy from discussion controversial topics. With increasing censorship from mainstream tech platforms of non-advertiser friendly content creators, this leaves open the door that our platform could be taken away at any moment.

Proposed solution: as other have suggested, we will be posting videos relating to this proposal on a new cryptocurrency only focused channel on YouTube (now created here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAEQPqrAxRwAsElJwHtLsQg) as well as on at least one other less censorship prone platform (TBD, likely DTube or BitChute). This will allow the videos related to this proposal to both benefit from exposure to the subscriber base or our current channel (https://www.youtube.com/c/craigmason) where we will promote the video as well as allowing others to share the content via the cryptocurrency specific channel linked above without associating it with unrelated and potentially controversial topics. Additionally, by posting the content on less censorship prone platforms as well, the content will be less resistant to censorship in general.

·Other unknown factors: as with any new venture, we are sure that there are other risk factors which we have not taken into account here.

Proposed solution: openness to criticism is one of our core values. We believe in consistently improving and correcting our mistakes. As such, as we have done thus far, we will encourage any and all feedback as to how we can improve our work.

OTHER FACTORS FORCONSIDERATION AND DISCLOSURES
      
Please note that the content to be created from this proposal will be based on information that has not been verified by us. (i.e. proposal owners and others put forth information and make promises which we cannot verify.) The content we create will be entirely reliant on unverified information provided by others or will be our own personal opinions. None of the information provided is intended to be financial advice or an assurance of the accuracy of information put forth by the potential proposal owners or any other sources. The value we will provide will come from the time spent in distillation, summation, and opining upon that information rather than any kind of assurance or advice as to how to use it. All information put forth will either be our personal opinions or unverified
information only.
 

Conclusion: we look forward to your feedback and for the opportunity to work with the Dash community and hope that we can create a mutually beneficial relationship that makes the lives of MNO’s easier and helps contribute to Dash’s bright future. We can be reached via email at craigmasonvideos@gmail.com, or via twitter @oldcraig (Craig) and @lilpolty(Paul). Thank youall for your consideration. 

-Craig Mason& Paul Mason

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Discussion: Should we fund this proposal?

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0 points,7 days ago
Great job, guys! Thank for taking this initiative.
If you need any info on our current or past proposals - feel free to ask us:)
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0 points,7 days ago
Thanks sm, much appreciated!
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0 points,10 days ago
Great proposal, just what I was looking for. Another competing team is welcome, may the best stay and better come along.

Please keep it very concise and factual. Avoid feeling, believing etc. I see from the other videos this is not really your strong point :(
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0 points,10 days ago
Hi Paul - Thanks for the feedback! We will do our best to keep it factual. As for guessing how a future proposal may pan out, it's hard to know the facts, but your point is well taken! And yes, more competition is a great thing and I would love to see it!
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0 points,17 days ago
I may have missed it, but when will the first review be available and how do we find it? Has that information been provided (yet), or is it too soon? I'm very excited to see what is provided.
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0 points,10 days ago
Hi Einstein - The prior month's videos are linked in the proposal - November's will be added when it's up around a day or two before the final voting deadline (around the 27th).
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1 point,19 days ago
Congrats on proposal funding. I really like the format and feel informed and entertained at the same time. One potential turn off might be the inclusion of your specific political leanings with the proposal evaluations. Of course, I may be off-base here.
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0 points,7 days ago
Thanks dsludge! I completely understand why our political leanings could be a turn off for some. As I said in the proposal, I have to be completely honest as as I've stated in the proposal my long-term goal is to create content that is grounded in reason and evidence. Your point is well taken, and I will be doing my best to keep focused on the topic at hand!
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0 points,26 days ago
Thank you again everyone for the feedback and support! We just uploaded our October video as well, which you can find here: https://youtu.be/lJwkuuZ_YHA
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0 points,29 days ago
I appreciate that you've joined the Dash community, and I appreciate your video work.

I want to explain why I'm voting 'no' on this proposal.

Dash's treasury is its most powerful tool -- it is a tool which ideally will be wielded to take us into the hundreds of billions in marketcap (conservative minimum estimate).

Someone making recommendations and/or commentary on proposals -- and getting paid to do so by our network itself -- needs to have the experience and know-how to build and grow a multi-billion dollar company.

Which you don't have. :)

So keep up your current efforts, and thanks for the attempt. But no.
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1 point,26 days ago
Is the pompousness in the comment above a joke or are you actually simply being pompous. Excellent joke if first option but horrible attitude if serious. It's sounds like a comment some guy would make with pinky fully extended drinking an espresso.

Glad this passed and who says the Mason's couldn't run a multi-billion dollar company... matter of fact- who in this world is qualified to run a multi-billion dollar business "properly".

Freemason's for the win!
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2 points,1 month ago
I am voting "yes" for this and similar (eg.: Julin is Russia) proposals since they provides a great service. Nevertheless, I hope that someday such news outlets will become self-sustaining.
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2 points,1 month ago
Great, thanks! I 100% agree that we should be self-sustaining in the long-run. This kind of win-win will help get us off the ground, but in the long-run, my goal for the content we create is to be self-sustaining/self-funded.
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-3 points,1 month ago
Voting NO. This summary will only add the the already extensive list of things that we have to read.
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3 points,1 month ago
No worries, and thanks for the feedback. We certainly do live in an era of information overload. =D
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1 point,1 month ago
Yes! It's nice that you guys stepped up for this. My time is very limited, but I want to make votes as informed as possible. Interviews with proposal owners would nice if it all possible.
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0 points,1 month ago
Right on and thank you! Others have suggested the same (re. interviews)...considering that for the future.
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1 point,1 month ago
Yes. Always been a fan of you guys.. rock on and stay dashy!
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0 points,1 month ago
Thanks Fox...stay Dashy we will!
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3 points,1 month ago
Love what you guys are doing, keep up the good work, and a definite yes from me!
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1 point,1 month ago
Thanks! We will make ya proud! =D
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2 points,1 month ago
I like the idea of ​​having an informal review, of the proposals to the community.
We need to have a follow-up system as Joe Moraca recently commented in a dashforcenews article. And it is an issue that is not being addressed and 'donating' funds in dash without the certainty of an ROI, nor monitoring.

I would make the following suggestions, if you allow me:

1)
If you could subtitle videos, since people who are not native speakers, it is easier to read than to listen.

2) About this:

Deliverables: Each month we will research each one Dash budget proposal and create the video in which we summarize and discuss each proposal as well as provide /// *** our personal opinions as to how we would vote we were to have masternodes. /// ***
We will also provide a brief synopsis of our findings containing similar information.

I think, that you should not express an opinion of the proposals, but that you should make objective judgments, and that the MN operators will already decide.

Why do I say this?
Because there may be MN operators who do not think like you, and your opinion can create a conflict between MN operators.
It should be borne in mind that each operator has a training, ideals, beliefs and ways of thinking that can be very different, especially if they are from different regions and countries.

Thank you for your proposal
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1 point,1 month ago
Hi Blockchaintech - Thanks for the input. I think you are so right that we need a follow up system to address the actual performance of these proposals. I'm looking forward to seeing what someone comes up with.

As for your other suggestions:

1. Cool - I will do so assuming YouTube automatically let's me do so.

2. I think you make a good point here...I think to hide our opinion completely would be difficult and against the spirit of what we're going for. I'm not a journalist but a commentator that attempts to address issues from a philosophical perspective. That said, I wouldn't want MNO's to blindly follow what are, as we have said, only our opinions. We will do our best to make sure that we address as many pro's and cons as possible, regardless of our opinions. As for conflict, that comes with the territory of expressing an opinion on anything and just doing business in general. Luckily, we're dealing in a free market. If MNO's don't like us, they can give us the heave-ho! =D
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2 points,1 month ago
Definately yes. A couple of smart guys, providing a needed service at a fair price. What's not to like? Great stuff guys.
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1 point,1 month ago
Thank you DashRedWhale. We will do our best to make it worth the price!
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2 points,1 month ago
There are a number of things I like about this proposal. You didn't just show up out of nowhere and hold your hand out. You're active on the forums, and you have a good grasp of cryptocurrencies in general, and Dash in particular.

The price is very reasonable. And the information that you provide does at least two things. It gives additional insight to the Masternodes, which is great. And, almost more importantly, it makes the larger public aware of how our Treasury process works. At this point most people have no idea how significant Dash is. But when they hear about the 2+ million dollar a month budget, and see some of the projects we're doing, that changes the tone of the conversation. That is no longer in the realm of "magic internet money."

I wouldn't object if the show was a little bit more professional, but don't go overboard. CNN and Jamie Dimon look very very professional. We are the antithesis of -them- . Nobody doubts your authenticity, or the fact that you are regular guys.

Carry on. Solarguy
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1 point,1 month ago
Thanks Solarguy! Having a background in B2B sales, I have learned the importance of proving that you can provide value before asking for the sale.

As for being too polished, it reminds me of what my grandfather used to say... "You never want to look too prosperous..."
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2 points,1 month ago
voted yes! the proposal is very good, and it has an acceptable budget
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2 points,1 month ago
Thank you! I believe in making deals that are of great value to both sides. With the work that gets put into these videos, we're still making a good wage for our efforts, and I believe it will provide value well above the cost to the community. A "360 win", if you will... =D
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3 points,1 month ago
I'm willing to give you guys a trial period of 1 month, to see if i like the video format and the written summary that is mentioned in this budget proposal. So you got my support for this month's superblock.
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1 point,1 month ago
Great! Sounds like a fair deal to me!
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5 points,1 month ago
I'm in favor as this is something that too few people are doing: actually evaluating and summarizing proposals to save masternodes time. MNOs can always do their own research, in particular if something in the review catches their interest. I should add two things:

1) Someone absolutely has to get the ball rolling here! Everyone is terrified of making enemies or doing this project wrong, and therefore much-needed evaluation doesn't happen. This is worth it solely on the basis of starting it out.

2) In order to provide some decentralization in the evaluation game, myself and my colleagues will discuss doing our own "top picks" pre-proposal review. That way right off the bat you get two different perspectives on proposals, which makes it far safer/less scary to even more reviewers to join in if they so choose.
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1 point,1 month ago
the_desert_lynx - good calls on both counts. The idea that this opens up the dialogue for others to do the same is a big point towards pushing me to actually go through with it. I look forward to seeing what you guys at DFN come up with as well.

As "making enemies" with unpopular viewpoints, I have plenty of experience doing so, so no concerns there...However, it seems like the Dash community is far more open to reasonable conversation and constructive criticism as it's value driven (both philosophically and monetarily) and thus, I hope and suspect that we won't make too many enemies.

Thanks again for all of your insights and encouragement to go forward with this. They were instrumental in getting it done.
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2 points,1 month ago
i like the “2 guys on the porch” approach
but
as we are talking about the budget system and huge money here i would like to see this solved “as professional as possible”
no offence to you guys , but i believe we need a solid Pro way of evaluation.
no “what do u think” - “yeah why not” approach , but proper pros / cons evaluated in a short / quick / understandable way
(remember this is supposed to support MNOs who are holding 300k US$ + per node - we need to wrap up our game)
long story short - if u guys can get this to the next level of professionalism i am all in ; )
(not voted yet)
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2 points,1 month ago
I agree that the more in-depth professional sort of evaluation is necessary at some point, however that doesn't mean that "casual" evaluation doesn't have a place as well.
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1 point,1 month ago
good point ; )
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2 points,1 month ago
In addition, I would add that they have 3 months 'of work proof' what is the duration of the proposal.
They can improve their quality, if they wish,.
May also appear other proposals from other people who compete with them and who does the same or better service.
Free market..
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1 point,1 month ago
Hi tungfa - we will do our best to be as professional as possible. That said, we are primarily content creators who specialize in what amounts to be entertaining yet informational and useful content. Dash could hire a big accounting or consulting firm to come and do the same thing for 5-10 times the price, but I don't know if the value is there at this point.

That said, your comment got me thinking...in a big company, management would weigh in on such decisions. It would be cool to see a video with Dash Core top brass discussing each proposal and their thoughts too...
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0 points,1 month ago
Edit:
i promise to be more involved here on DC reg proposals ! tx for the reminder
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0 points,1 month ago
...in a big company, management ....
yes they probably would , but in Dash i tbh try to stay away from commenting on proposals in public
(i only comment when 'really' bad - or very good - or 'i like them and try to understand better')
it can be easy misunderstood if we - core comment on proposals
+ we open ourself up for arguments as in " they are directing / dictating the budget system " and such
+ we just do not have time for that ! To check all proposals per month and comment in public .... no way - unfortunately the day only has 24h and this is just not possible

will vote yes and give u guys a shot
(nothing works better than good spirit ; )
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2 points,1 month ago
Proposals like this are exactly what Dash needs-the benefits come from both sides. It opens up dialogue for proposal creators on a public forum all the while showing our unique governance system to an audience that otherwise might not ever see it or understand it.

This could do a lot for Dash if played right. The Mason's are smart, funny and real. Potentially could draw a lot of people to DASH and also help give Masternodes a solid review of all the proposals each month. Details, encouragement, criticisms... they know whats up.
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2 points,1 month ago
I agree. I think these reviews provide two benefits to the network - they help the MNOs make better decisions and they give proposal submitters incentive to step up their game, since the proposals now get scrutinised on video by smart people who are good public speakers.
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0 points,1 month ago
Thanks! I like the angle that this holds potential proposal owners more accountable before they even submit!
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0 points,1 month ago
Thanks for the kind words, Chamz! =D
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1 point,1 month ago
We really really need this. About a year ago I submitted a per-proposal to do the same thing but got no support for it. I was told that Amanda was handling the news stuff about Dash. Well, Amanda rarely discussed proposals on her show so I think I may not have communicated my idea clearly enough. I am very glad to see that you guys recognize there is a glaring need for this. Most people in the cryptocurrency space don't realize all the fantastic things Dash is funding through its budget proposal system. This is a great idea and you have my votes!!!
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0 points,1 month ago
Cool! Thank you very much! Yes, the Dash proposal system sold me immediately on Dash as soon as I learned about it.

And yes, I have heard about others who have proposed similar projects, and as we have discussed in the proposal, the idea has it's potential pitfalls, but I am happy to give it a solid go regardless especially after getting a good amount of feedback from the community and playing through the potential very reasonable concerns.
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-1 point,1 month ago
Voteing No dont like your style (sorry) and that you are hitting for 3 Month. from what if seen in your Videos you are not the right guys for that (again sorry). sorry being rude but just my 2 Cents.
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2 points,1 month ago
No prob, dog! Curious to know how we could improve from your perspective if you care to share! =D
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-2 points,1 month ago
its how you look at things and how you explan things it dont add up for me in every Video that i saw you tell you are and Accountan (for how long ? maybe 1-3 Years) this means nothing to me. i have 27 Years of Sales experience i got some life experiance i travelt the World ( Nothamerca, Europe, Afrika) this makes me NOT an expert on Anything. but i can can look at things lissen to things and say: NO this is not i want. but i think you will get the funding. Proof me wrong. you need to step up your game!
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1 point,1 month ago
10+ years experience, started and sold a business, and did all my own sales and marketing...not that that's an argument for how we will provide value. I would be curious how specifically we should step up our game and what specifically we do that doesn't add up in your view. Genuinely asking for feedback. Thanks!
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1 point,1 month ago
Sorry, guys, I don't like videos at all. I would vote for you to try and see the quality of your work if you present your previous work in a text form and, essentially, promise to make future reports in a text form as well.
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0 points,1 month ago
No prob! We are including a brief written summary of our findings as well in case that changes your opinion. Either way, video is our main milieu, so I hope others will jump on to do some comprehensive written analysis as well!
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1 point,1 month ago
I think that owner is not aware that he needs to finalize the proposal.
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1 point,1 month ago
You are essentially correct nebojsa. The owner knew he needed to add the details, but didn't know it would be public prior to finalizing. =D
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2 points,1 month ago
Yea, I had the same reaction to my last month proposal. Fortunately, I had everything drafted before submitting. :D
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1 point,1 month ago
strange... someone spent 5 dash to create an empty proposal
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1 point,1 month ago
No longer empty! =D
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1 point,1 month ago
nothing to see here folks, just move along.....
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1 point,1 month ago
there is now something to see! =D
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0 points,1 month ago
Minimalism at it's finest.
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1 point,1 month ago
good one Chamz =D
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