Proposal description
In short:
Continuation of integration of Dash into POS terminals. Expansion of number of restaurants and retail businesses. The next stage of integration and partnership with Microsoft.
Key points:
Core of proposal:
By starting presenting our payment solution to various businesses, we found that it can have a huge success. People loved it and the demand for such implementation grew pretty fast.
What've already partnered with:
Gradually, on one of the conferences we met representatives from Microsoft and they became rather interested to work with us. According to their team, Blockchain and cryptocurrency is here to stay and they will do whatever it takes to make this
space growing at a more rapid pace.
Based on what we've already done, together we came up with a unique solution. Currently all of the software that can be trusted is paid and heavy. That's why we want to create a free light client that any small business can use.
Basically every single terminal in a small business (restaurant, coffee shop, hotel, cinema, gas station etc.) that has installed Windows (a vast majority) will be able to log-in into Microsoft Azure, install our software and get ready to pay with Dash.
In this way, the entire process is simplified to minimum steps which is extremely easy to maintain, especially during the further updates.
The best part is that such software can be used globally. We remove the borders and want to create an amazing system that can accelerate and even force a mass adoption of Dash internationally.
Paying with Dash in Givi Rubenshteyn:
What it makes for Dash:
Our integration in the news:
About us:
Cryptogroup (https://crypto.group) is a team of experts in programming, cryptocurrency andBlockchain technologies and fintech services.
Here's what we've accomplished so far:
Costs:
Continuation of integration of Dash into POS terminals. Expansion of number of restaurants and retail businesses. The next stage of integration and partnership with Microsoft.
Key points:
- partnership with Microsoft
- universal free software on Microsoft Azure
- multilanguage support
- Dash global outreach and marketing by Microsoft
Core of proposal:
By starting presenting our payment solution to various businesses, we found that it can have a huge success. People loved it and the demand for such implementation grew pretty fast.
What've already partnered with:
- Oleksandr Kurinnyi (CEO of AxxonSoft) with Smartroad project (Dash payments for traffic violation)
- Michail Reznichenko (CEO of Profit Solutions) with POS terminals (Dash payments in retail sector)
- Michael Chabonyan (the founder of Bitcoin Foundation Ukraine) with CryptoHryvnia project
Gradually, on one of the conferences we met representatives from Microsoft and they became rather interested to work with us. According to their team, Blockchain and cryptocurrency is here to stay and they will do whatever it takes to make this
space growing at a more rapid pace.
Based on what we've already done, together we came up with a unique solution. Currently all of the software that can be trusted is paid and heavy. That's why we want to create a free light client that any small business can use.
Basically every single terminal in a small business (restaurant, coffee shop, hotel, cinema, gas station etc.) that has installed Windows (a vast majority) will be able to log-in into Microsoft Azure, install our software and get ready to pay with Dash.
In this way, the entire process is simplified to minimum steps which is extremely easy to maintain, especially during the further updates.
The best part is that such software can be used globally. We remove the borders and want to create an amazing system that can accelerate and even force a mass adoption of Dash internationally.
Paying with Dash in Givi Rubenshteyn:
What it makes for Dash:
- Dash has a chance to be accepted on virtually any terminal in a restaurant or any other small business that runs on Windows throughout the world
- professional marketing and support from Microsoft
- since Dash is the fastest and most user-oriented crypto on the market, together with Microsoft it has a chance to outperform even Bitcoin
- this integration prepares DASH network to wide usage before the Evolution
Our integration in the news:
- Bitcoin, Dash Payments Could Soon Cover 80% Of Ukraine Merchant Terminals - Cointelegraph
- Interview: Business Integration Into Retail Sector of Ukraine DashforceNews
- In Kiev restaurants there will be cryptoterminals - Forklog (https://forklog.com/v-kievskih-restoranah-poyavyatsya-kriptoterminaly-dash)
- Kiev started to accept cryptocurrency - Hashtelegraph
- Dash Accepted at Ukraine Restaurant, Begins Wide Retail Integration - Dashforce
- Pay with cryptocurrency for food - Tarpan Digest
- Dash is accepted (from real users) - Dash Unofficial Youtube Channel
- The beginning of wide integration in retail sector - Ukrainian restaurant is accepting Dash - HappyCoinClubï
About us:
Cryptogroup (https://crypto.group) is a team of experts in programming, cryptocurrency andBlockchain technologies and fintech services.
Here's what we've accomplished so far:
- Launched a daily news source on cryptocurrencies - fork.land (November 2016)
- Launched a Ukrainian DASH community website - dash.com.ua (January 2017)
- Held 5 conferences on cryptocurrency in Kiev, Zhytomyr, Vinnitsia and Kherson
- Created 5 video blogs about Dash and blockchain on our YouTube channel
- Integrated Bitcoin and Dash into 12 restaurants (Givi Rubenshteyn, Pasteteca, network of 9 restaurants Pesto Cafe, Mister Twister)
- Presented our product in front of 100+ stakeholders on the top cryptocurrency conference in Ukraine
- Created a lightweight merchant's app for iOS platform
- Integrated with 2 Point of Sale providers: Profit Solutions and Poster
Costs:
- Development of the actual software + maintenance
- Marketing,training in the restaurants
- Reimbursement(5 Dash)
- Total(255 Dash)
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1) Launched 10 more restaurants that accept Dash: a network of 9 restaurants Pesto Cafe and Mister Twister. You can find a location of those on DiscoverDash map (Ukraine, Kiev). Dozens more to come in December.
2) Created a lightweight merchant's app for iOS platform. This app will be used to help businesses that don't have any PoS terminal or don't want to integrate with existing one. The functionality is rather extensive:
- login by pin code
- rights management (for administrators, waiters, etc.)
- invoice generation
- real time status change
- filtering by time range
3) Integrated with Poster Point of Sale. This software will allow to expand on international markets, like Netherlands, Poland, Russia and Eastern Europe countries.
We are ordering flyers for the restaurants. The heading says "Why you should not use Bitcoin. Use Dash - Digital Cash" :)
Thanks @blockchaintech for this idea! :)
We've disabled the Litecoin functionality! Everything works just fine, so there is no need for it.
So, AS WE PROMISED, DASH is being used exclusively and as a primary coin.
P.S. We are making new flyers with explanation "Why you should not use Bitcoin"! :)
"Why you should not use Bitcoin. Use Dash - Digital Cash" :)
Lack of exclusiveness? Let them just throw Litecoin out - it's kind of a fair condition.
I would vote YES.
Second point, what about privacy ? Microsoft is not that well known to respect privacy of its users. What are the implication going through the software about the privacy of users (both restaurants and customers) ?
Voting no for the moment
Since we're dealing with cryptocurrency, the only thing that we and Microsoft can use is the public data from the blockchain itself. It's not a credit card or something where the individual data is exposed.
The most important part is that Dash can gain a continuous support from the marketing, development and business side. We believe that if we can partner with one of the biggest IT companies in the world, we can open up a huge set of possibilities in this new form of payment - cryptocurrency.
On top of that, after the launch of DAPI we can create even more products that can benefit Dash network so that it can become a real digital cash with instant, secure and almost free transactions.
We've disabled the Litecoin functionality! Everything works just fine, so there is no need for it.
So, AS WE PROMISED, DASH is being used exclusively and as a primary coin.
P.S. We are making new flyers with explanation "Why you should not use Bitcoin"! :)
Long story short- users of our system won't leave more traces than any other person using cash. If you pay, your wallet address is the only info you compromise to our processing.
Users of our system won't leave more traces than any other person using cash. If you pay, your wallet address is the only info you compromise to our processing :)
For payment in restaurants I do not use my main wallet. Everywhere there are cameras
- AxxonSoft is an international company and has 36 offices across the globe, including Germany, UK, China, Singapure, Brazil, Mexico etc.
- Profit Solution is Ukrainian company and also has one location in Baku (Azerbaijan).
- Bitcoin Foundation Ukraine is a community rather, than company that is widely known in cryptocurrency space across the globe.
I don't understand what't wrong with the fact that those are mostly Ukrainian-based companies.
Most of the people underestimate Ukraine but we have the strongest community in Blockchain space. Bitfury's founder Valery Vavilov is from Ukraine, the first ASIC was created in Ukraine, the biggest blockchain conferences for 1000 of people in Ukraine, the biggest number of cases in E-government is in Ukraine.
On top of that, our country is in top 5 countries of the best IT specialists (that is a fact), and we have the biggest number of real use cases in E-government using Blockchain.
Get rid of them and have DASH only and you have my votes!
Maybe you could suggest users to shapeshift to dash then pay if they want to use other cryptos! This hassle will turn the none dash holders to DASH.
We've disabled the Litecoin functionality! Everything works just fine, so there is no need for it.
So, AS WE PROMISED, DASH is being used exclusively and as a primary coin.
P.S. We are making new flyers with explanation "Why you should not use Bitcoin"! :)
ShapeShift would turn anyone from using crypto because it requires an extra 0.25% fee + the actual fee for paying in crypto that you want to exchange.
Today we had an official announcement of paying in crypto in our first restaurant. From 20 people we had only one transaction in Bitcoin (just for the sake of testing) and one transaction in litecoin (again for the test).
People love Dash so I don't know why you're worried so much:)
In your proposal I quote "bitcoin and Dash global out reach"
Dash is being used exclusively in this system. Bitcoin payments are enabled to facilitate mainstream adoption of Dash as a mean of payment (the second has rather major advantages, such as instant payments, anonymity, credibility, etc.)
Litecoin payments are used as a testnet - we don't want to see any issues or problems in our POS. Quality work - "uber alles" (more than anything else) :)
Thanks to all of you, who voted "YES" - we are making future of payments one step closer!
Bitcoin is because it is the biggest and people have heard about it. I'm not sure people are going to pay with Bitcoin though because of high fees and time confirmation. However it will attract users who want to pay with crypto in general because they at least heard about Bitcoin, and the vast majority of people don't.
Dash obviously will be the best choice to pay. I'm not going to go full on this one.
Litecoin is a temporary option right now. We're using it as a test platform instead of Bitcoin because it has less fees at this moment. So we'll remove it eventually.
The process of adding Litecoin was almost the same as with Bitcoin so there was not that much problem with that.
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Example options menu:
Bitcoin - 10min transaction time
Dash - 10sec transaction time
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How you structure this is up to you guys but the difference should be obvious.
No other alt-coins.
This must help us to maintain a healthy payment infrastructure and DASH's exclusive opportunity for this integration
Dash is by default a first and main option because it is the fastest and easier to use. We will push hard on using exactly that option during the education of staff.
Instant send sends a message to masternodes to confirm the transaction before a block is created. Confirming the transaction through masternodes does not decrease the amount of time a transaction can show up on the blockchain because miners create the blocks.
In this perspective, you're actually over charging Dash users because instant send cost extra, yet in your system it provides no value.
Exactly what is a store in Atlantic City NJ USA setting up? They "sign into Microsoft Azure and install your software" --- is this the Profit Solutions POS system you are using in Ukraine? Something new?
What are the systems capabilities?
What is the "backend" process for direct payment to the store? Is it crypto only or local fiat currency?
Fee structure?
Thanks
Joe Moraca
Currently we can’t make a solution for all of the countries simultaneously. What we can do however is to create a brand new POS system or improve the already existing system (we’re still deciding which approach is the best one).
So we have a Microsoft representative here in Ukraine that agreed to make this together. Any small business (at first in Ukraine) will be able to install our software directly from Microsoft Azure and have a built-in option for paying with Bitcoin, Litecoin and Dash.
After we launch it successfully in Ukraine, we’re moving to Poland and work with Microsoft’s representative there. After Poland we’ll expand to other countries in Europe and CIS.
For each country there will be in-depth study of legislation regardless accepting crypto. If it is fully allowed, businesses can keep it, if not – we’ll provide some fiat gateways.
On top of that we’ll adjust not only for targeted countries’ language but also for certain features that they need and got used to in that country specifically.
Obviously our system will accept cash and credit card.
We won’t charge any fees from the customers. The price will be easier very cheap in comparison to what current system has, or a monthly fee based on Microsoft Azure prices (usually about $5/month or so).
You have failed your promise on keeping it Bitcoin and Dash exclusive "We will integrate Dash and Bitcoin, not other alt coins" and yet you added Litecoin to the mix.
One big reason no other coin should even be involved is because Dash has instant send properties and bitcoin and litecoin doesn't. That's why your integration needs to read the blockchain in order for the merchant to accept the payment. Instant sends properties are then dissolved and has no point involving your system.
I can tell you one thing, I don't want to sit around waiting on the full block to be processed. I can't imagine wanting to spend Dash bad enough to wait 10 minutes for it to be confirmed And how frustrated myself, my friends and even the merchant would be waiting for the transaction to be processed.
But if Dash wants to support other coins to be integrated and are completely for long time consuming transactions than Idk what to say.
We were making test transactions for a few cents and the commission was about $2. In Ukraine it's about 50 UAH (our local currency) which in itself will be enough to have a simple meal. So it doesn't make sense to use Bitcoin, only if people are complete Bitcoin maximalists and don't value their Bitcoin :)
However what Bitcoin will do is it will attract people to spend cryptocurrency in general. Dash is the best option of all because it has InstantSend feature on both Android and iOS and nobody has to wait for so long.
We are big supporters of Dash and believe it can be really huge in the next few months and years, especially after the Evolution.