Proposal “Marketing_for_russian_speaking_community“ (Active)Back

Title:Marketing in Russian speaking DASH community
Owner:Dash_RU_community
Monthly amount: 20 DASH (1193 USD)
Completed payments: 2 totaling in 40 DASH (1 month remaining)
Payment start/end: 2022-12-11 / 2023-03-10 (added on 2022-11-30)
Votes: 631 Yes / 100 No / 27 Abstain
Will be funded: Yes
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Proposal description

This proposal concerns the DASH marketing activities in the Russian-speaking segment (market size: about 250 million Russian-speaking users from Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan and other countries).
This proposal asks for 20 Dash monthly during next three months (60 Dash totally). 
Examples of activities:
- translation of important Dash related information and articles,
- news translations for channel:
https://t.me/Dash_Ru_channel
- incentives for active chat members who benefit to community,
- special activities like
-- comics (https://t.me/fts_comics)
-- pictures
 (https://t.me/Dash_Ru/252929)
- marketing / learning videos production about Dash.
These videos were already done by our community:
https://youtu.be/QCd5btatgkI
https://youtu.be/oBTAHHZc5ms
https://youtu.be/NFK_ljNxw_s
https://youtu.be/pOWLewGJbEU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhvZ3tTQmxA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN3OBe4Cupo
https://youtu.be/cPvYj_OBg3I
Chat votes for members and amount of compensation. I am only a long term Dash activist who will be treasure holder/distributor.
You can click and see message in our DASH-Ru chat for more information or questions:
https://t.me/Dash_Ru/260315

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Discussion: Should we fund this proposal?

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2 points,6 days ago
There will be an intermediate report in the beginning of February.
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1 point,8 days ago
Dash-Ru community votes "yes" on dash marketing hub. I am now voting "no" on Dash-Ru community.
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0 points,11 days ago
I voted no. You are our largest Dash masternode whale (98 masternodes !!) that is actively participating in our Dash Governance system and i calculate that you at least receive 600 dash a month through those 98 masternodes. I really do not see the need for this budget proposal and i also think there is a conflict of interest here at play.
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1 point,10 days ago
Correction : third largest masternode whale actively participathing (voting) in our Dash Governance system. I overlooked bluewhale & weejohnny, who despite not having vote history in mnowatch.org do seem to vote according mnowatch.org
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1 point,11 days ago
Thanks for your reply and calculations!
The reality looks little bit different.
I personally do not own any MNs. Dash provides such functionality like vote delegation.
Who are delegators and if they are Russians or Indian or Canadian it is unknown.
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-1 point,10 days ago
So you are a vote delegator that has access to 98 votes from an unknown wealthy Russian masternode whale entity and decided to create a budget proposal instead of asking for a donation from that unknown wealthy Russian masternode whale entity ? Which you then upvoted with your 98 delegated votes ?

The calculations with regards to the unknown wealthy Russian masternode whale entity are rather simple : https://dash-news.de/dashtv/#curr=USD&value=98000
The dash-news.de website is somewhat conservative with its calculations, so i rounded the masternode earnings up to 600 dash per month.

This unknown wealthy Russian masternode whale entity left his digital fingerprints in our Dash governance system, when it paid the proposal fee from this budget proposal with an input amount of one of its masternodes. If mnowatch.org can detect it with its limited analyzing tools, then other agencies / countries can do the same.

Markets in Crypto-Assets (MiCA) Regulation is expected to finalize its final proposal text and vote on it this year (2023). There were articles late last year about the EU considering a ban on certain privacy coins, which includes Dash. The last thing Dash could use is getting mixed up in funding a budget proposal that very openly leads to an unknown wealthy Russian entity with 98 masternodes that could be using Dash in an effort to either circumvent existing sanctions against Russia or tries to circumvent an existing sanction against itself.

All in all i feel a strong drive to distance myself from both the vote delegator and the unknown wealthy Russian entity with 98 masternodes behind this vote delegator.
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0 points,10 days ago
I understand you think otherwise, but MICA or any other politically charged regulation is not the issue here because the banks and the politicians will always defend themselves and use the same predictable tactics of divide and conquer. Today it's MICA, tomorrow it's something else, designed to divide, it really doesn't have to be about Dash at all, they can and will find other narratives and criteria. Climate change is a trendy excuse, tomorrow it's terrorist financing and so on. They demand we assimilate into their system, one step at a time.

Return to roots. Universal money that transcends borders and traditional politics. This should be obvious but.. the vast majority of Russians are not evil and deserving of punishment. Better to live by this than the endless sh!t churned out by corrupt politicians, for whom we probably will never meet long enough to care. Politicians planning and scheming. A superficial concept should not rise above what is real in the world.

MNOs should support what they believe is positive, not to carry prejudice and regurgitate the words of a state. Exert your independent thought of another human that isn't trying to manipulate others. If you genuinely believe the PO is acting in bad faith then by all means vote No.

The PO has not confirmed yay or nay to whether they are the same people behind Russian translation work at DCG, but if they are, then I can personally vouch they are genuine.
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0 points,6 days ago
I don't know, if people who do translations are part of the DASH-RU telegram chat or no. I don't see much connection here.
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0 points,10 days ago
This post contains only your ASSumptions, not facts. That would be really nice if you follow your last sentence.
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1 point,10 days ago
Lets not get emotional over this...
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-1 point,11 days ago
There is also the issue with now knowing there is a rich Russian entity behind this proposal and we don't know if this rich Russian entity has been sanctioned by the EU / USA / other countries for possibly supporting and enabling the war that Russia is inflicting upon Ukraine and its civilian population or not.

So i think Dash should be very carefull directly funding any unknown rich Russian entity during a year when in Europe regulation are finalized and voted upon by the EC and EP that directly affects Dash.
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2 points,11 days ago
correction : specially during a year
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0 points,11 days ago
Such emotionally colored post with politics in Dash budget proposal discussion...
If you feel like want to delete it -- feel free, we will understand it.
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-1 point,10 days ago
Unlike Russia there is no deleting, surpressing or censoring of comments within Dash Central.
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1 point,23 days ago
It seems to me that 20 dash per month, this is a lot, for the telegram of the channel from <500 users and 3-4 posts per month. Voted NO, sorry
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1 point,25 days ago
Would be interesting to know the size of the russian speaking community, how many members in the telegram chat, how many messages per day. What videos do you plan on making in the future, are there any plans for merchant adoption in the region.

How closely do you work with , if at all, the Core group or any other development groups being funded by dash?

finally thankyou for this proposal, I'm in support of it :)
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2 points,11 days ago
It seems that there is also a Russian masternode whale behind Dash_RU_community, who has 98 masternodes and that whale just voted on several budget proposals with his 98 votes.

https://imgur.com/a/3KRbA0I

Source : mnowatch.org
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0 points,11 days ago
Which makes this masternode whale the biggest masternode whale that is participating in the Dash Governance system (the larger whales don't seem to have a voting history)
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2 points,10 days ago
Actually i think i need to make a correction here. It seems that larger masternode whales bluewhale (142 masternodes) & weejohnny (229 masternodes) vote as well, they just don't vote history on mnowatch.org like that of this Russian masternode whale (98 masternodes) named masterblaster.

Which makes this masternode whale the third largest masternode whale that use the Dash Governance system (voting on budget proposals).
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2 points,11 days ago
Since Dash Central randomize the votes i assume this masternode whale does the voting manually, causing a direct vote result on mnowatch.org

I still wonder how this masternode whale can vote 98x, in a timespan of two hours..
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3 points,11 days ago
correction : not two hours, but within ten minutes.
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3 points,10 days ago
gobject vote-many <proposal_hash> funding yes.

Even if all your collaterals are in cold storage, eg trezor/ledger, so long as your voting keys are in the core wallet, you can vote with all your nodes at once, in fact, this is the recommended setup. There is no point of people keeping their voting keys in cold storage, only the collateral should be there, all other keys are best kept in the core wallet.
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3 points,10 days ago
Thank you, that explains that.
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2 points,11 days ago
Thanks for support!
My personal estimation is around 300-350 million of Russian speaking people in the world.
Crypto payments are not possible in Russia itself (authorities are still thinking how to regulate it), but many people are involved in crypto since it is real money and they can take advantage of it as:
moving money around the world
or
save its purchasing power.
Also many people in neighborhood-countries like Kazakhstan/Ukraine/Middle Asian countries speak a lot Russian and participating Russian chats/groups and so on.
Millions of Russian speaking people live in Europe/USA/Canada/Dubai/Thailand etc. Participating in it's crypto scene.
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Few people from Core are in the Russian Telegram chat and give us some feedback which we are very appreciated.
There is generally very narrow information flow toward Russian community -- sure everybody can find information in ENG groups/discord etc. But how experience shows, it very frequently not the case, people still looking for info in mother tongue.
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-1 point,1 month ago
Nope.
It would be to puncture the dash more
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2 points,1 month ago
Has anyone validated this proposal owner is in fact the person doing the related activities?
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2 points,1 month ago
If these are the same guys that do Russian translations for dash docs, then yes, I can confirm they are legit.
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1 point,1 month ago
It can be easily done by clicking the last link -- official Dash-RU Telegram chat -- and asking there if this proposal is genuine.
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4 points,1 month ago
Dash should be obvious for people that have had their bank accounts and stocks seized like the Russians had. Chinese too.
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3 points,1 month ago
For those who voted "no", -- could you please give feedback what is necessary to change your mind?
How could we do better?
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2 points,1 month ago
Are there exchanges that allow people to access Dash on ramps?
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2 points,1 month ago
Could you please re-phrase your question, it is not clear for non-native speakers like me.
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2 points,1 month ago
can you buy dash on Russian exchanges or exchanges that operate in Russia?
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2 points,1 month ago
Thanks!
Adoption degree corresponds approx. to other top-cryptos.
You can buy on p2p or at online-exchanges like 7money.co (example).
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3 points,2 months ago
Soviet Army dancing to Hard Dash

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1PAO3jgmXY

:-)
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2 points,1 month ago
:-)
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