Proposal “IndeterminacyFest“ (Active)Back

Title:The Indeterminacy Festival and Immersive Decentralization
One-time payment: 59 DASH (36057 USD)
Completed payments: no payments occurred yet (1 month remaining)
Payment start/end: 2018-02-16 / 2018-03-18 (added on 2018-02-05)
Final voting deadline: in 6 days
Votes: 176 Yes / 189 No / 64 Abstain
Will be funded: No. This proposal needs additional 482 Yes votes to become funded.
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Proposal description

Hello Dash DAO!
My name is Stanzi Vaubel and I was introduced to this community by my cousin Sevan Chorluyan (CEO of Badmirror). I run a project called [i]The Indeterminacy Festival[/i] and this past year Sevan joined me for the summer tour portion of the project. As we traveled, he talked to me about the Dash community and the way in which Dash functioned. The more he talked, the more it became clear that there were deep philosophical alignments between the Dash network and the approach I take to creating my festival. I have not read any proposal that sounds anything like mine on the Dash proposal board and that makes me feel like an outlier here, but also someone who I think (and hope you will think so too) has the potential to bring something really new and exciting to the approaches that might be taken to mainstreaming Dash.

I did a pre-proposal which you can view on the dash forum here and and the Reddit page here and received a positive response from the community. 



I create immersive events which change people.
 My current project called The Indeterminacy Festival is focused onexperiencing what a decentralized world looks like. I am an artist, PhD student, classically trained cellist, and community organizer whose focus is emergent order. I live and work in Buffalo New York, which is a place where community networks are far more important to the functioning of the city than the centralized alternatives that exist in so many other cities. For this reason, Buffalo is primed for digital cash because Buffalo is already living in an informal economy, ripe for further decentralization. Of the cryptocurrencies, Dash and the Dash DAO most closely align with my vision. My interest is not just about promoting Dash, but that Dash is an extension of the whole philosophical framework that my projects are based upon. People in Buffalo have a limited reference point for cryptocurrencies, so by partnering with Dash we are going to create an initial impression that will be the city’s formative reference point. I see this proposal as the beginning of an ongoing relationship between Dash, the festival, and Buffalo that will be developed and expanded upon in the future, as the link between the two becomes indelible in the city's mind. 

In 2017, I installed thirteen large-scale inflatable bubbles at the same site. Inside of these bubbles, thirteen unique dance, music, and lighting performances took place, to eventually converge at the end of the show in the final bubble. In an entirely new way, the festival explored how within a decentralized structure, new social interactions become possible. 

Here’s a short video from the festival in 2017:

"Vaubel’s social practice works are invested in creating possibilities for re-imagining ourselves and communities, by plunging audiences into strange and richly textured environments porous to participation." - The Public

THIS YEAR when people walk into The Indeterminacy Festival, they will be located in a place called Silo City, which is a complex of grain silos located in Buffalo, New York.

Marine A (one of the structures on the silo city campus)

On the silo campus there are a number of structures that are separated by large swaths of gravel. When audience members arrive to Silo City they will have to navigate between these various structures by using an elevated net (2 feet off the ground), which will carry them from one place to the next. The net gives the physical experience of a network in which unlikely ideas and people are connected. The nets and the ideas they connect form relationships which mirror complexity* over hierarchy, encouraging decentralized modes of interacting.

*Complexity characterizes the behavior of a system or model whose components interact in multiple ways and follow local rules, meaning there is no reasonable higher instruction to define the various possible interactions

Walkable Net 

In this emergent structure, the buildings function like nodes, inside of which there will be various opportunities to collect Dash, which they will be able to use at the marketplace at the final installation. These opportunities to collect Dash are not simply passive situations where a consumer sees Dash advertising and then orders a beverage with Dash. Instead the festival offers audience and performers a first-hand experience with what a decentralized network feels like and why an alternative currency structured on decentralization radically alters our connections with each other and the kinds of economic structures we might create.

After they have traveled between many different nodes/installations they will arrive at their final location, which will be a marketplace. Vendors who will be hosted in the marketplace are businesses that I have developed relationships with over the course of the year. They are smaller organizations, some of whom I worked with for previous festivals and some of whom are new to the project, such as The West Side Bazaar which describes themselves as a community of vendors who “sell quality authentic products from all around the world and has enabled many immigrant, refugee, and low-income individuals to pursue their dreams of small business ownership, providing them with a space to incubate their small business all while bringing the best of many different cultures to a one-stop-shop right here in Buffalo!” These local entities are already pushing outside of the conventional economic model. It is these kinds of initiatives which will come together in the festival marketplace to buy and sell items with Dash.

Throughout the experience, I won’t be selling them Dash, they will understand Dash in the gut, in a way that can’t be done with simple advertising and promotion.

This is the way decentralization can be mainstreamed, through a visceral experience. One that enacts the philosophy as an alive and active reality, that doesn’t have to be explained as an abstract concept, or sold, or posted on a billboard, where all that’s changed is the currency. I don’t think that’s enough. I think we have to step inside decentralization to truly understand what differentiates the real crypto from the ones that are just pretending. As cryptocurrencies becomes more mainstream by the day – there needs to be a felt experience of what the difference is between Dash and all of the other competing options. Otherwise, people wont make the right choice, because they won’t know what their choices are, and the explanations of the differences are too complicated. The Indeterminacy Festival is an embodiment of what decentralization and Dash can do to change everything.

As an artist who works with these concepts, I have the unique ability to serve as a translator and make these complex ideas felt viscerally by the non-crypto community. Participants will crave a way to continue this experience that has altered their perception of reality and with Dash this transition can happen, as a long-term reality. The DAO should not wait to begin creating these inroads for digital cash in small cities like Buffalo, it needs to happen now, with a local artist like myself who plays an invaluable role as a social influencer.

Leading up to the large performance events on May 18th and 19th (described above), there will be talks, workshops, and performances by partners and visiting guests. Should I be funded by Dash, I will also host workshops where people can come to set up a wallet and get a little background on how Dash works. 

The Birds Nest, Just Buffalo, Starlight Studios, Buffalo String Works, Techne Institute, The Cass Project, Hallwalls Contemporary, 5 Loaves Farm, Common Roots Urban Farm, West Side Bazaar, UB Physics Department, UB Earth Science, UB Dance, UB Music, UB Architecture, UB Media Study 

In partnership with The Techne Institute, we will be inviting guests who will give workshops and talks around creating practical alternatives from urban agriculture to local currencies. These talks will be hosted in partnership with The Cass Project. Guests include: Stéphane VerletAurélien Gamboni, and Sophie Krier

My total request is for $32,225. For a total request of 59 Dash*.
*based upon Dash's value on Feb 4th

1. $15,000 for re-circulation of Dash
2. $12,316 for festival costs
3. $2,200 marketing
4. $2,709 to recoup the cost for application 

1. Re-Circulation of Dash: There are around 100 participants in the festival itself and I anticipate over 400 people attending the event and I want each of them to acquire a reasonable amount of dash so they feel like it’s valuable. I would like to give each performer/festival participant as well as the first 400 persons $30 worth of Dash to spend in the market ($15,000)

2. Festival Costs: for material costs, sound, lighting, artist fees, and guest speakers. I will be purchasing netting and metal to build the net structure that will carry audience members from one installation to the other, this will be around 1,200ft of net ($3800) and enough metal to create 100 stands and 50 turnstiles to support the net ($3,000). I will be purchasing 500ft of nylon shock bungee rope in 3 different colors to be stretched from the first installation to the second ($1000). I will be paying Indigo Productions (a lighting and sound company in Buffalo) to create a sound and lighting system that covers the entire of the silo city campus ($4,516)

3. Marketing: I want to bring in new audience from all over Buffalo and promote the Dash brand. I would use Semcasting, a data driven digital marketing plan, which would target individuals in Buffalo based upon their past digital history and interests. I will hire street teams that will travel around Buffalo weekly handing out flyers and promoting the festival. I will have an article published in Business First, a business oriented newspaper that would emphasize Dash and the role crypto currency was playing in the festival. My co-producer has more than 20 years of experience with marketing and PR in Buffalo and we expect to be able to leverage those contacts for articles and features in the local media as well as surrounding areas. ($2,200)

4. Sevan Chorluyan, an early member of the Dash network and CEO of Badmirror, has generously offered to put up the funds for my Dash Proposal, however, I have agreed to pay him back if my proposal is accepted. ($2,709)

For a total request of 59 Dash


I started out as a classical cellist and trained at Manhattan School of Music and Juilliard Pre-College. I have collaborated on projects at Robert Wilson's Watermill Center and performed at venues such as Tanglewood, The Long House, and Carnegie Hall. I was hired by the Whitney Museum to design an interactive web project focused around teen engagement with contemporary American art. I graduated from Northwestern University where I ran a radio show called "Ready to Talk" which featured artists from around the world. Subsequently, I worked for New York Public Radio and was the first person to produce video content for the culture page online. My audio documentary Practice, Practice, Practice was featured by the Third Coast Audio Festival, my short film We're Apart of the City won Directors Choice at the Black Maria Film Festival. In 2012 I was selected to participate in The Telluride Film Festival's Student Symposium. In 2013 I produced a series for Chicago Public Radio called The Gift which dropped inside poetry and great literature from the past and present. In 2014 I was a fellow at UnionDocs Center for Documentary where I made and premiered my first feature film called This Place.

Currently I am a PhD student at The University at Buffalo. Since arriving, I have hosted large-scale events, which have only gotten bigger each year. In 2016, I staged Excursions into Unknowable Worlds, in 2017 I launched the first year of The Indeterminacy Festival, Following the festival, I toured the project to four different cities around the U.S. which I plan to continue this year, traveling to different locations and developing new relationships with museums and community partners.

A view from a bubble, Indeterminacy 2017


These projects have been well received and covered in the press within Buffalo, and I’ll include below links to articles from The Public, UB News, Buffalo Rising, and Buffalo News - all of the city’s most read news papers for art, culture, and news:

Buffalo Rising for this year’s festival fundraiser

The Public:

UB News:

Buffalo Rising
Burchfield Penney
Buffalo News

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1 point,3 days ago
I'm not sure about the "social influencer" part and the layout of this budget proposal is somewhat off putting to me due to
the frequent use of high-lighted text, which frankly does not make a professional impression towards an mature audience.

I am however willing to keep an open mind about this and give this budget proposal a shot, so you have my support.
-3 points,4 days ago
It's an interesting experiment, that's for sure. We can title the $40000 study, "How kids on acid interact with irrelevant promotional material while trying to get laid."
1 point,3 days ago
Fake, please ban
0 points,3 days ago
step away from the keyboard and go fuck yourself.
1 point,10 days ago
I have voted YES. Thank you.
1 point,11 days ago
I am voting YES. This is a different and interesting way to present Dash. Plus a very reasonable ask.
1 point,13 days ago
If this passes, I will come and help you explain Dash. I'm 15 minutes away from Buffalo. Voting yes.
0 points,13 days ago
I can't really understand this so will have to abstain on this one..
0 points,14 days ago
A sliver of the amount of audience this event will have, ever considered anything crypto related

No real ROI voting NO as well
2 points,13 days ago
Realmrhack is a jobless idiot who is having fun at the cost of proposal owners.. He is trying to sabotage as many proposals as possible with similar "questions". 9/10 proposals he leaves nasty comments on.. There is no point in trying to argue with this fool..
2 points,14 days ago
I like this proposal.
It provides a unique approach to introducing Dash to people that are already intrinsically aligned with the decentralized philosophy and social structure.
My vision is that communities must become stronger in order to reduce the power of the authoritative State and the Central Bankers that control it.
With Dash, these "decentralized communities" will be empowered by using Dash as a real money, store of value and economic driver.
3 points,17 days ago
Who is voting no? and why?! The learnings alone from this proposal's event is worth 59 Dash for the Dao. C'mon people!

We can learn so much from seeing Dash grow in a city like Buffalo Ny.
-3 points,16 days ago
Well considering 50% of the budget is being used for "recirculation"

What will happen with those 15k?? Thats quite a give away considering.. bchamz does giveaways for the fraction of the cost
1 point,15 days ago
Thank you for your comments.

Yes. I wanted to dedicate a big part of the budget to simply getting Dash into the hands of many people. It works out well because they will have an opportunity within the festival to spend that money with vendors who are participating in the project. The recirculation all happens at the festival.

As broken down in the proposal, the other 15k gets spent like this.

1. $12,316 for festival costs
2. $2,200 marketing
3. $2,709 to recoup the cost for application

Only $12,316 is going as a "give away" (supporting material costs). The rest is being put towards Dash, in the form of marketing and PR about the festival and the role Dash is playing in the festival. The third cost is towards returning the funds put forward to pay for the application.

$12,316 does not run a festival and is not substantial enough to do what I am doing. However, it would contribute towards supporting festival costs.

I have substantial funding to make sure this festival happens with or without Dash support with traditional grants like New York State Council for the Arts, internal university funding (Mark Diamond Fund), financial backing from the Physics Department at the University, as well as financial backing from individual funders in Buffalo who have been following the projects for several years now.

I am not doing this proposal because I want a "give away" - I am doing this because I believe we are aligned in our interests and I know I can bring a valuable new approach to integrating Dash into the local economy here.
-4 points,15 days ago
Thank you for your proposal. It's not clear to me that Dash should be associated with this festival or its participants. Whatever the message is it's definitely not related to cryptocurrency and it can do more harm than good. Voting no.
2 points,15 days ago
This is about having a visceral experience with cryptocurrency, it is not a festival about explaining Dash to people. No one in Buffalo has any reference point for crypto at this time. This is a unique opportunity to introduce a large swath of the community to Dash.

How do you mainstream a technical, confusing, new concept to people? Steve Jobs did it by turning the computer into a visual, aesthetic experience that people could intuitively understand. He didn't have to explain anything to them - he just offered them a visceral experience that made sense - even though it was radically new.

This IS different than anything you've seen before because I am coming at it from a new vantage point - I am a PhD student, I am an artist and I have something entirely new to contribute to this community. At the very least, this will be a valuable learning experience for the DAO.
-1 point,15 days ago
> How do you mainstream a technical, confusing, new concept to people?
With a simpler UX that abstracts complexity. Not with visceral experience, whatever that means. I do not want Dash associated with this festival, its message or any of the participants.
1 point,15 days ago
How can it do more harm than good?

Signing up merchants sounds like a good thing.
Getting Dash in people's hands in an informal economy sounds like a good thing.

The whole point of the proposal is that it is not about cryptocurrency. It is about how cryptocurrency can be understood without it being about cryptocurrency.
-1 point,15 days ago
By associating Dash with the wrong type of people or message.
2 points,14 days ago
There is no "wrong type of person" for Dash. Dash is meant for everyone, as many people as we can possibly include and enrich. Some people need to experience information and content in different ways to understand and embrace it. It may not be the cheapest, most efficient way of integrating merchants and users, but for some people it might make all the difference. We need all kinds of people and all kinds of experiences to reach those people. I would vote yes just to spite elitists like you. I will vote yes because the philosophy is more important than the immediate profits.
0 points,12 days ago
Wrong type of people OR MESSAGE. Apple wouldn’t advertise on a sex expo. McDonald’s wouldn’t advertise on a vegan expo.

I’m not an elitist, I’m just not dumb and naive like you.
2 points,15 days ago
and which types of people are the undesirables? People in buffalo shouldn't be part of the dash ecosystem? It sounds like you want Dash to stay with the tech nerds.
2 points,17 days ago
Yes. Professional videography is critical. I work with a few great videographers here in Buffalo. They will be covering this year's events as well as the lead up workshops and lectures.
0 points,14 days ago
That's the other great hidden value of projects like these. Footage is "forever."
2 points,17 days ago
I'm a YES. It would be good to get some professional videography done of the event. Is this planned?