Proposal “GOVERNANCE-EQUAL-OPERATIONS-PROPOSAL“ (Closed)Back

Title:Governance - Equal Operations Proposal
Owner:3d1409ae
One-time payment: 1 DASH (36 USD)
Completed payments: no payments occurred yet (1 month remaining)
Payment start/end: 2022-12-11 / 2023-01-10 (added on 2022-12-06)
Final voting deadline: in na
Votes: 23 Yes / 243 No / 84 Abstain

Proposal description

This proposal is about how to introduce Dash Platform in a responsible way.

* EVERY new Platform Dash blockchain operation must be specified clearly in scope and design and approved INDIVIDUALLY by masternode vote as they are protocol changes - we are NOT congress and this is not the "Omnibus bill" or the "Patriot act".
* Platform operations must pay the SAME fee per byte as transaction operations - potentially more if they are computationally heavy and/or can never be pruned.
* Platform will NOT be artificially subsidized by a reserved part of the treasury. It must pay for itself with regular transaction fees.
* All platform operations will be on the normal Dash blockchain, as otherwise it is not Dash and should not be supported by the Dash treasury. NO sidechains or multitier overcomplicated system will be created.
* DCG will simply accept that some apps are not suited for blockchain storage such as for example likely binary file storage. The cost of storage will automatically weed out what those apps are. This cost is a valid market price signal of what a blockchain costs.

Vote 'YES' if you want Dash Platform to adhere to these standards.
Vote 'NO' if you think these requirements are irrelevant.

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Discussion: Should we fund this proposal?

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1 point,3 years ago
So you're asking us to throw out 8 years of work?
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-2 points,3 years ago
Well, that´s basically what this spammer is asking for
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1 point,3 years ago
16 mno are voting in favor of this?
My vote goes to abstain.
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1 point,3 years ago
It's misleading, the owner of this dumbass proposal owns 16 MNs himself. He is literally the only one who voted yes on this
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1 point,3 years ago
He owns 16 masternode? Holy crap!
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-1 point,3 years ago
i agree, its clearly SPAM
voting no
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0 points,3 years ago
Please refrain from posting spam proposals
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3 points,3 years ago
I think if it was spam, it would likely be off-topic. But it appears to be motivated by current events

AFAIK, the Proposal Owner did not launch a pre-proposal discussion, so it comes across as a little amateur, requires more substance.
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-3 points,3 years ago
No, its clearly reactionary spam. Someone with a task of using this inflection point in the network's history wants to ensure that the most destructive option is represented.
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3 points,3 years ago
Vote Abstain, because this is not fleshed out enough for me to cast an opinion on?
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-4 points,3 years ago
For the record, I would like to note that agnewpickens and grandmasterdash REFUSE to answer questions about their MNO status which is HIGHLY suspicious given the nature of this place. Even if you have a MN, witholding that information to troll others is completely inappropriate behavior (QuantumExplorer, Dash's current CTO, asked grandmasterdash to reveal his status on another proposal and he refused).
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-5 points,3 years ago
You admittedly don't have a masternode, so how would you vote?
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4 points,3 years ago
One of the features of DIP003 Deterministic Masternodes https://github.com/dashpay/dips/blob/master/dip-0003.md is that we can delegate our votes to other parties. Agnew can sign a message with his voting key and then we can verify that key on mnowatch.org if he likes.
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-1 point,3 years ago
Any valid and widely accepted proof is fine with me.
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3 points,3 years ago
I'll sign a message from a voting key, give me a Dash address to send the message to.
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1 point,3 years ago
We are not fundamentally changing the way the Platform side chain operates just prior to release voting NO.
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1 point,3 years ago
This seems to be spam. Voting no.
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-1 point,3 years ago
Agreeing with you, its just spam
i vote no
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1 point,3 years ago
I tend to agree with the first 4 bullets.

But what about this:
"* DCG will simply accept that some apps are not suited for blockchain storage such as for example likely binary file storage. The cost of storage will automatically weed out what those apps are. This cost is a valid market price signal of what a blockchain costs."

What do you mean?

May I be allowed to store encrypted content into the platform or not?
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1 point,3 years ago
You can store what you want. You just have to pay for it as any other transaction/data and thus some things may be prohibitively expensive.
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0 points,3 years ago
Voting absolutely not on this proposal. You're basically trying to destroy platform before its released.

>* All platform operations will be on the normal Dash blockchain, as otherwise it is not Dash and should not be supported by the Dash treasury. NO sidechains or multitier overcomplicated system will be created.
>* DCG will simply accept that some apps are not suited for blockchain storage such as for example likely binary file storage. The cost of storage will automatically weed out what those apps are. This cost is a valid market price signal of what a blockchain costs.

Both of these items are non-starters. The MNOs have clearly tasked DCG with designing, coding and deploying Platform. Being able to run a second chain is a necessary condition for this. We will not "simply accept" that some apps don't belong on a blockchain. The first chain is for payments, which has certain restrictions. The second chain is for data storage which has its own, unique constraints.
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-1 point,3 years ago
You have to accept that a blockchain cannot do file storage like Dropbox for example. That is simply not what a blockchain is for.
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-2 points,3 years ago
No, that's wrong. Blockchains can do file storage, but they can't do file storage AND payments. Its the USECASE that is the limiting factor here, not the technology. The design requirements to do storage well are different from those to do payments well. So we've created two chains to handle each task with professional levels of support and development (which means bespoke task optimization).

Your assumption that blockchains can only do payments is wrong and you should've brought this up years ago when we decided to move forward with platform. Raising an objection like this this late in the game is bad form and inappropriate.
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