Proposal “Dash_HQ“ (Closed)Back

Title:DashCentral NextGen
Owner:Dash_HQ
Monthly amount: 168 DASH (5356 USD)
Completed payments: no payments occurred yet (3 month remaining)
Payment start/end: 2018-05-19 / 2018-08-16 (added on 2018-05-22)
Final voting deadline: in passed
Votes: 118 Yes / 277 No / 21 Abstain

Proposal description


DashCentral - current status

DashCentral has served the community exceptionally since its inception. However, the current platform is lacking features and a modern user-interface. We think that it is important, that such a relevant site is developed and maintained by Dash community members.

DashCentral NextGen - improve platform design and add missing features

https://i.imgur.com/LMQv5xD.png

We have been actively engaged with Rango (DashCentral Developer) who has agreed to advise and consult us on the development process. Rango will as well provide a copy of the DashCentral codebase to serve as a base for the new version of DashCentral. Following Improvements will be made:

  • New DashCentral user interface (design)
  • Improvements of proposal editing and integrated pre-proposals
  • Improved proposal list view (categories, title images)
  • Proposal view (version control, categories, milestones)
  • New proposal creator (pre-proposals and final proposals)
  • Polling
  • Advanced masternode monitoring tools
  • User profiles
  • Advanced public API endpoints
  • Advanced email notifications

DashCentral NextGen - Launch

Following security, code reviews and usability tests, DashCentral NextGen will be deployed on dashcentral.org


Milestones

July 15th
Public Beta is launched to start receiving feedback.

September 1st
DashCentral NextGen development finished. Site is launched within august budget cycle.


Team - DashBoost

  • Benefits of the DashBoost team developing the DashCentral NextGen platform
  • Community based Team
  • Extensive experience in this specific area: See DashBoost demo for micro proposal flow here and DashBoost.org.
  • No subcontractors / middlemen
  • Optimal blend of quality and value

Review the detailed proposal document here.


Budget
https://i.imgur.com/a7fBwEN.png

We predict ongoing running costs at approximately $5k per month which will include server costs, maintenance, bug fixing and minor feature development. 3 months of support will be provided for as part of this proposal, at which point funding will need to be secured from other sources.

Any appreciation, greater than 10%, for Graphic Design, Servers and Infrastructure, QA and Security Review, will be donated to DashBoost to fund micro-proposals. Prices for the Development and Administration are pegged, regardless of price.

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Discussion: Should we fund this proposal?

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3 points,5 years ago
voting NO.
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-2 points,5 years ago
Voting yes because one central hub is never a good idea.
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-1 point,5 years ago
Maybe Rango can implement dashwatch as references and other already paid for services to integrate for a nominal cost instead?
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4 points,6 years ago
While dashcentral has served dash well till now, its time to up our game. u guys didnt put in any effort or upgrade for the last several years until u saw the dash nexus proposal. Voting yes for dash nexus, voting no here....
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1 point,6 years ago
Futhermore this websites seemed to have little work to be done on maintenance, yet got funded for it royally.
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5 points,6 years ago
I would support this if the plan was to start with DC codebase and improve in small milestones(in smaller asks). But it is a quite steep ask for a repaint of an existing codebase. If we are willing to spend this much, I would rather go a little further and rebuild the whole experience with Dash Nexus. Voting NO.
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3 points,6 years ago
Dashuser33,

We are actually proposing to develop a feature that would allow me to listen to your comments and adjust my proposal according to feedback. For more information on this feature please see the YouTube link in the description of this proposal and forward to 1.55 seconds.

Cheers,
TechSquad
DashCentral NextGen
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1 point,5 years ago
This is a good idea from the TechSquad guys.
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12 points,6 years ago
DC has served us very well and I'm very grateful for it and for Rango's hard work over the years to keep it running and functioning. At this point, however, Dash is quickly becoming a huge, international, multi-billion dollar ecosystem and with the DAO at its helm, the DAO needs an appropriately sophisticated, streamlined, and professional web presence that enhances not only the experience and tasks of MNOs, but of all participants at every level of the community. At this point, I believe a revamped version of DC 2.0 is the wrong direction for the DAO. Reusing the code of a website created originally years ago is not a very good practice for web development moving forward and not ideal for where we intend to take this organization and its sub-DAOs.

You're clearly a competent organization as DashBoost demonstrates, but at the same time your design style--at least of the projects you've built that I've been able to locate--is fairly plain, though I'm willing to acknowledge that this may have been for the sake of continuity with DC. However, I don't believe the likes of DashBoost or DashIntel are the right direction for where we need to go with the central hub and entry point to the DAO and Dash Community.

Ultimately, I think that at this point, the DAO is in the position where it needs to enlist the talent of a larger design studio, and those are going to be costly. If the DAO decides it wants to put off that kind of expenditure until a later date, this might be a worthwhile project to facilitate the transition, but I'd much rather put up the Dash for a completely new platform at this point.

Also, I don't recall there being a pre-proposal made for this project and wasn't able to locate one. While a pre-proposal is not absolutely necessary, it seems like this is the kind of project about which you would want to consult the community before doing all of this work to determine whether or not it was even needed or desirable. An improvement of DC would have been something I would have cautioned against in the pre-proposal stage, in favor of a completely new design for the reasons I described above.
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6 points,6 years ago
Good proposal but I think DashNexus is better and Arthyron explained why very well. Have to Vote NO.
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7 points,6 years ago
Sorry guys, this (and dashboost) look like more of the same. The Dash DAO and MNOs need to step up our game, and the other guys (Dash Nexus) have my Yes votes as they are the professional team to get us there.

I suggest focusing on a smaller community driven proposal to get people actually using Dashboost, as we have already invested in that, and it seems (from your comments) you require some additional funds to get it to a level you are happy with.
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1 point,6 years ago
In regards to DashBoost, technically it is a very good platform. From the funding side which you are referring, our hands have been tied. It appears that GreenCandle (GC) has mislead the community and us. They are claiming they have no funds to fund DashBoost as was the objective initially. GC is claiming that the GAP funds (~330 Dash) are their income now, instead of being "held in trust for the network" as they called it in their official audit report.

This has not been mentioned prior as we do not wish to start drama nor appear biased. We want to leave the investigating to the pros. DashWatch and DFN had been informed of the situation as soon as appropriate and they have conducted investigations. DFN's article on the situation should be release within the next few days.

Until this situation is finalized, DashBoost does not have funding for proposal cycles on the platform.

[Please recognize that while I have attempted to remain objective, some information above could be a misrepresentation or biased. You should wait for the article to be released to make any firm opinions.]
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1 point,6 years ago
Hi Triptolemoose, it was a pleasure talking with you.

In regards to your first point, I have reviewed Nexus's documents, and I cannot find a feature which they are planning to implement which we are not, in addition we are implementing features which they aren't. Examples of this are:
1. The fact that all the data, settings, MN configurations etc can all be carried over due to the fact we are building on top of DashCentral. All in all, it will be a total transformation. However, we will be able to use all the same APIs, user data, accounts, links, etc making the transition a lot smoother.
2. Guarenteed Pre Proposals - allowing the MNOs to negotiate with a Proposal Owner while they are committed to submitting their proposal, but can still change the budget or address. This will allow MNOs to barter and demand different changes in a proposal such as escrow or a decreased budget before it is locked on chain.
3. The fact that we have both the code base from DashBoost and DashCentral means that we will be able to save a lot of time and money on the backend of the application, while still adding all the features and more compared to Nexus.
4. And to me the most important (although not strictly a feature), the fact the developers aren't some firm trying to make a buck, but instead a proven development team committed to Dash and the community. We know what's going on and are very accessible. If you have a good idea for this, I guarantee we can adjust our scope and add it in. We have experience building on the DAO and are excited to do it again.

Considering we plan to add all the same features plus some, plan to deliver in 3 months compared to Nexus' 4 months (so it seems, I cannot find a detailed timelime in their proposal), and are less that half of the price they are asking for, this is a clear choice to me.
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2 points,6 years ago
I'm really glad someone is stepping up to the plate to update this site. I'm glad Rango is letting you and willing to do this. A big yes vote from me.
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3 points,6 years ago
I just saw a proposal yesterday for Dash Nexus. What are the main differences between the two? Thanks
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2 points,6 years ago
DashNexus will provide a completely new platform, developed by a subcontractor and will start at zero. This involves costs (higher development costs, new APIs to work with, new URLs, new user accounts).

From our perspective, it is more efficient and involves lower costs to use the current DashCentral platform code and put significant development power on it to improve it in serveral areas:

- New DashCentral user interface (design)
- Improvements of proposal editing and integrated pre-proposals
- Improved proposal list view (categories, title images)
- Polling
- Advanced masternode monitoring tools
- Proposal view (version control, categories, milestones)
- Proposal Creator (pre-proposals and final proposals)
- User profiles
- Advanced Public API Endpoints
- Advanced Email Notifications

Our team also includes developers that are active community members, that are extremely passionate about the DAO whom of which would gladly accompany this project for years to come.
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3 points,6 years ago
Dashboost is useless right now. With funding of only 2 dash no one bothers voting or applying for proposals.

Why would we want you guys to put together another proposal when your first one seems to be a dud?

Where is all the money from green candle?
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2 points,6 years ago
Name3,

DashCentral NextGen is a technical project and when comparing ‘like to like’ DashBoost was extremely successful from a technical perspective, especially when considering that the price of Dash decreased almost 70% during the build period. Being a micro treasury system, I would also argue that our experience building DashBoost is invaluable when it comes to building the next generation governance system.

I do however share your concerns in relation to the lack of funding from Green Candle. My team and I poured countless hours into that project and I can assure you that in the absence of funding that no one was more let down than us.
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2 points,6 years ago
Fair point. I suppose it is really Green Candle I should be going after not you guys since the site technically does all it was promised to do
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-1 point,6 years ago
I would like to challenge you and the DashNexus team to create something that can be expanded. Together you could make a system where each website does things their own way, but when it comes to the proposals and comments, the information is "pulled in" real time to any site via some kind of API (or better still the Dash Network's DAPI eventually) MNOs can choose the site of their choosing without losing out on thread posts. Proposal owners only have to submit their proposals in one way/location/an HTML they post?? I don't know, and that information is automatically filled into any website servicing MNOs and the budget system.

Imagine, in the near future, after you guys work this out together, MNOs or community members can post their comments in their favorite site, and all the other connected sites automatically update their threads. The proposal owner only needs to post once their proposal and it is posted on any site supporting this.

In the near future, this information can be stored in Dash Drive, and served by the DAPI. You can imagine a French Russian, Spanish, any language sites being built, people's posts being translated on the fly via google translate (or not, users choice) ultimately creating a truly decentralized forum. One communication hub feeling but from any user interface, not unlike all the different wallets that interface with the one blockchain.

Now is the time to do this, two simultaneous projects are on the network this month. If you make a commitment to create this, it would set a fantastic foundation for the future of the DAO.
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