Proposal “DashStarterKitPhilippines“ (Closed)Back
|Title:||Dash Starter Kit - Philippines|
|One-time payment:||122 DASH (5118 USD)|
|Completed payments:||1 totaling in 122 DASH (0 month remaining)|
|Payment start/end:||2018-03-19 / 2018-04-18 (added on 2018-03-10)|
|Votes:||761 Yes / 116 No / 26 Abstain|
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1. University students in the Philippines are obliged to by Lanyards with card ID holders. This means that all university students that get the start pack will be walking adverts for DASH as you can see the DASH logo is prominent on these lanyards.
2. The other important point we need to consider is that promotions work very differently in different countries. It is important for us not to impose our own exceptions on a project like this e.g. I can defintely see how this would work in the Philippines but it would not work in the US. This is why it is so important that promotions are specifically tailored for each geographic area because the people have very different needs and motivations.
The best people to design a campaign that works in the Philippines are the people living in the Philippines. I can see how this promotion would be very popular in the Philippines and the merchandise is likely to cause a lot of buzz amongst students talking about DASH digital cash.
3. The Philippines in particular is potentially one of the best customers of DASH because millions of Filipinos leave their country to earn money oversees to send back home to family members. They often have to pay high transfers fees anything up to 10 to 20% of everything they earn can go in transfer fees to send money home. Imagine if people could start learning about DASH and how it can assist these remote workers send money to family members nearly instantly at less than a few cents. This could be huge for the Philippines. All they would then need is some DASH ATM points strategically places around the country and then all those millions of oversees workers would be able to securely send money home.
In order to start DASH off in the Philippines however the people need to get some exposure to what DASH is. This promotion fits in perfectly with how to promote DASH in the Philippines. If this promotion was for US I would be doubtful but in the Philippines this definitely will work. The DASH branding will be perceived as "cool" just as other western brands are perceived as "cool" in the Philippines. The items are all useful for university students and it would be a talking point amongst all the university students. Having worked with some people in the Philippines previously I know they LOVE bonuses and any free items. The merchandise here combines a free give out with cool western branding so it will have double the impact.
I really like this idea. MNO let's give this promotion our support. I have a very positive feeling about this project. It could be the start of something big for DASH in the Philippines and it very reasonably prices considering the number of university students it will benefit (2000 students) . I also like the fact that this promotion is very focused in one niche area of students. This again is exactly the right demographic for DASH.
The more I look at this project the more I like this project.
I am definitely voting YES on this one.
Western branding is perceived as very cool in the Philippines. I spoke to one of my employees from the Philippines about your proposal. She said this proposal would be very popular. She said that people in the Philippines even put stickers on their cars with Western brands like Apple and Microsoft etc. We would never do that in the West. This shows we need to evaluate a proposal from the perspective of the country it is going to and not from our perspective. This can be hard to do and it is not immediately obvious.
DASH is very cool western branding and with it being Digital cash it's also relevant because the millions of Filipino workers oversees like maids who do not have a low cost way to make remittances back home. The university students you introduce to DASH would realise the power of DASH for making remittances home and could put together a guide on how to Send Money Home for those people working oversees. The Philippines is a perfect use case for DASH. This campaign would directly target the youth who are most open to technology and will see the benefits it could bring to your country. I hope the MNO's will take some time like I have to thoroughly study this proposal and think about it a little more before voting. What finally convinced me is when I asked other Filipinos about your proposal who knew nothing about it they all thought it was a very good idea.
I have also learned something very valuable from this proposal. I've learned not to evaluate it only from my own perspective but to open my mind before jumping to a conclusion. Gather more information and then ask other people's opinion from that country so that I can see it from the perspective of the proposal owner's country. I will do this from now on for all proposals. So I have you to thank for this.
This is a very clever, well thought out and perfectly aligned promotion. It is very targeted for the exact niche market and fits in perfectly with the culture in the Philippines. This is a very good opportunity for DASH to get started in the Philippines and I think this proposal could lead to big things there.
We do believe there is huge potential for Dash if used here for remittances, as you pointed out. If we can have a good impression on the younger generation here, again as you stated, they will be able to aid their families in receiving and using Dash. If this is as successful as we hope, we will be putting together a campaign that will work towards educating and providing businesses with the knowledge and tools needed to natively accept Dash. More on this will be coming shortly.
Again, we want to thank you for focusing on our proposal. Your comments were highly appreciated between our team. We understand that compared to other proposals, this may not seem as exciting on the surface, as you pointed out, but here in the Philippines would be a very exciting surprise for all who are introduced to Dash. Thanks again for bringing attention to us!
It will be a shame if this proposal does not pass this time.
I’m writing to you and the community as a whole. I understand that many of you bought into Dash because you see it as a potential winner in the crypto space and that you can earn a steady income from running a node. The budget system is great, only as a business person, you don’t see the value of some of the apparently wasteful things that have been supported in the past, and you are going to do your darndest to put a stop to it! I appreciate that. Many of the things Dash has done don’t make economic sense. I keep hearing about the Rate of Income, and that we’re not seeing sufficient returns on some of the proposals. Unfortunately, I don’t think you understand what you signed on for. Please let me explain.
The cryptocurrency movement started by the unknown Satoshi Nakamoto, is a declaration of war against the incumbent banking system. There is no sweeter way of saying it. Of course nobody wants actual war, or any type of violence, however the incumbent system has utterly failed the people of the world in so many ways, and are undoubtedly the cause and source of all the wars around the world; the proof of which would be far too long a book to write here. This war can only be won Gandhi style, Martin Luther King Jr. style. We must win the hearts and minds of the world. We must grab as big a foothold in countries who have been decimated by bad governments and bankers. What you signed on for here is not a “business” that runs a balance sheet and must show profit. You signed on to a war.
If you have not noticed yet, The IMF’s Christine Lagarde had declared the need to “control cryptocurrencies”. The good news is that they can not, ultimately, control them. They can however block fiat access which would be a huge slowdown in adoption. You see, when Satoshi Nakamoto launched Bitcoin, he knew he already won the war. However, there are still battles to go through. They will not change the ultimate outcome, but they can cause a LOT of misery; probably even death, as it’s obvious that those in power will do anything to keep it. It does NOT have to go this way if we play the game of Chess well. They’re on the defense. Lets keep them there!
So what do we need to get us through these battles as unscathed and solid as possible? We need two things. We need to win hearts and minds of the people of the world and we need to get footholds in large areas where people use cryptos in daily life, not fiat. For this, Dash is the best tool, but the crypto community as a whole needs to band together to make this work! And because of our budget, Dash is in the best position to lead this charge.
If you have not noticed, the media is fully controlled by the governments today. There is no more freedom of the press anymore, except for small independent groups and individuals. Today’s mainstream media is pulled by the very same strings; not left, not right, none of that is even real. Who in America that isn’t brainwashed or mentally ill, really hates blacks, whites, browns yellows and purples? You really think “white” people care what color skin another person has? I’ll tell you, not any more than a black or brown or purple person is likely to hate a white or other color person. No, it’s a tool to divide and conquer. Birth control, abortion, wages, race; it’s all fodder to keep the people incensed and impudent. Nothing changes no matter who is in charge.
By supporting projects like The Free Thought Project, Ben Swann, and the crypto show (and their humanitarian aid arm) and more, we develop a relationship and allies. Our funding can empower free media, and in return we can expect that they will tell the truth about crypto. This is the absolutely best way to win hearts and minds in my opinion because even the most average of humans in the United States feels manipulated and that something isn’t right in the media, even if they can’t put their finger on it. If we can increase the reach of Truth in Media or any other such project, it will be the best tool we can hope for in this war.
Also, the importance of what we do in Venezuela and other South American countries, plus what we do for many countries in Africa cannot be under estimated. These are Dash’s and crypto’s foot holds. There is so much potential in Africa and South America, and digital currencies will free that potential. If you don’t know by now, you should know that it is corrupt banking or lack thereof that keeps the people in these parts of the world from participating economically in the world. If we get a real economy working in these parts of the world, these countries or areas have no debt, no love of western banking. They will be whole heartedly crypto. And nobody will be able to change that.
Either we win, or we drag this out forever, until the corrupt institutions of the world find a way to co-opt everything the crypto community have been trying to build. We look at the bottom line for what Ben Swann’s rate of return cost per click was, or we back media because it represents freedom as does cryptocurrency. We build a trust relationship with hard working young people in Africa, who are grass rooting their country and soon catapulting it to the top of the food chain, or we leave them and their potential high and dry because pictures aren’t enough proof, there “could” be waste in how they are functioning, or god forbit they “take us” for a dash or two. I don’t even think they’d ever even do that, they’re full of so much zest for building an economy in their homeland, but the narrow-minded fear we seem to have is starting to become irrational.
If you haven’t guessed by now, this letter to you, the Dash community is a request to support and vote for all the African, Venezuelan, Benn Swann, Truth in Media proposals because we NEED these people to win! Thank you so much for reading this and I apologize for posting this everywhere, but that is my intention.
My Initial feedback to MNO is this. It's all great airdropping Dash to Filipinos but the main problem is that there's no fiat Dash rails. At the moment the only way to really transact between the filipino peso and crypto is through coins.ph which doesn't list Dash. Its much better to do these airdrops when there's already infrastructure set up to support the fiat-Dash rails so that those that have been introduced to Dash already have an easy way to buy more. We want sustained interest.
Criticism of this proposal: Why are you giving them 100 php worth of phone credit? If you've done your research you should know they can use piiko.com or https://en.bitrefill.com/philippines/ to top your phone up directly with Dash. Why aren't you educating about these services and using Dash to directly top their phones up? I use this all the time and its an amazing service.
I would like to meet you directly and talk more about this proposal. It is well intentioned but we need a better plan to make a lasting impact in the Philippines imo.
We do recognize that there is limited Fiat-Dash rails and vise versa. Our target demographic here, however, would probably not make a large difference if they were all able to purchase Dash(lower income, college students). Our hopes are that the amount of Dash provided will be enough to financially incentivise them to learn about it with the other tools we will provide and little further direction, unless they are actively interested. We hope that they then talk about Dash and can share with their friends and families.
We know there are services that allow you to purchase phone credits with Dash but we wanted to include the phone card so that we will have provided all the tools necessary for them to immediately be able to access the website and download the app. We will be sure to mention that Dash can be used to purchase additional phone plans/loads as well as point them to the merchant section of Dash.org.
Ok, fair points. Sorry if I come across as harsh in my above points.
I would have concerns you're going to fall short this cycle with the demand for budget from other proposals. You probably could have posted this proposal with a lot of costs reduced imo. I'm going to vote yes because I really want us to make a big push in the Philippines. Some strategies I think we should focus on to have significant impact are:
Grow community, connect with coins.ph and put pressure on them to integrate Dash
Connect Core to Smart/Globe in some way. For example, everytime I land in the Philippines I always get a free sim. Something like giving away bits of Dash with the sim so you can top up could be a good project, etc.
Dash ATMs (waiting on BSP)
You've requested enough Dash to give away to 2000 people. Is your plan to simply continue the give aways until you run out of Dash, and then submit a new proposal to do more?
It says you will conduct the giveaways at several college locations. Is your plan to only give away on a certain preset calendar of dates, and if you have not given away all the Dash then you have a Dash surplus? Or is your plan to do enough dates and locations until you have run out of Dash?
Yes, our plan is to continue the give away until we run out of Dash, especially in the case of an increased valuation of Dash.
Yes, we have many Colleges that we would like to include, on preset dates, in the give away. We will be limiting the number of Starter kits per location based on the amount of kits that can be purchased. If the price of Dash rises we will continue to produce kits and visit new locations.
As far as future proposals, we have lots of other ideas but if this is as successful as we hope, we will definitely consider doing future giveaways.