Proposal “Dash-Merchant-Venezuela-5000-Merchants“ (Active)Back

Title:DASH MERCHANT VENEZUELA: Scale up to 5000 merchants (focus on grocery stores/supermarkets) + Incentivize consumption (increase Tx)+ Self training videos for merchants + 200 #VenezuelaPaysWithDash videos + More
Owner:alejandroe
Monthly amount: 295 DASH (20360 USD)
Completed payments: no payments occurred yet (5 month remaining)
Payment start/end: 2019-01-16 / 2019-06-14 (added on 2019-01-05)
Final voting deadline: in 12 days
Votes: 348 Yes / 109 No / 40 Abstain
Will be funded: No. This proposal needs additional 245 Yes votes to become funded.
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Proposal description

Dear Dash Community, we are very excited to introduce you our next proposal for Dash Merchant Venezuela, one of the most succesful merchant adoption programs for Dash so far. We are very happy to keep pushing the Dash adoption in our country, to still be the #1 country in terms of merchant adoption and counting with the 80% of the Venezuelan merchants.

This is a video where we show a summary of our work during the last 4 months and we also introduce our plans for future.


BRIEF SUMMARY (For details read below these lists):
1- What we have done?
- 2500 merchants affiliated and accepting Dash.
- 1200 follow ups by our QC team to ensure quality.
- Within 70-100 tx per day throught our POS.
- Over 50 #VenezuelaPaysWithDash videos
- Activations points to incentivize transactions (70 tx per day).
- Integration of Dash Text into our Dash Merchant POS.
- Payment processor for web based merchants.
- Support to Krip phones sales (66,000 units sold).
- Influencer campaign reach to over 400,000 people. Increased followers up to 200%.

2- What's next?
- Repeat and scale the "Strategy for Adoption"  (we have proved that it is working).
- 5000 affiliated merchants by May 2019.
- Push consumption to 200 tx per day by May 2019.
- Continue follow ups to ensure quality.
- 15 video tutorials of "How to accept Dash" so merchants can learn by their own (increase our efficiency).
- 200 #VenezuelaPaysWithDash videos.
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1- WHAT WE HAVE DONE?

1.1) 2500 affiliated merchants on DiscoverDash.com.
 Venezuela is the #1 country in terms of Dash adoption with over 2500 merchants.
https://i.imgur.com/G5ADHs4m.png

1.2) Over 1200 follow ups from out Quality Control team. For us, quality is the most important value, so we set up a QC team who is in charge of doing follow ups to the merchants and check if they have all the information/tools they need to accept Dash. In this way we ensure the quality of our affiliations. This work is unique in the crypto space.
https://i.imgur.com/ZADipq1m.png

1.3) 70-100 transactions per day throught our QR.CR powered Dash Merchant POS (100% increased in 3 monhts). Thanks to the "Incentivize consumption" activities we have done, the number of tx in our POS has increased up to 100 tx per day. And this is just throught the POS, out of the system there are more because several merchants prefer to charge directly from their wallets (i.e: kiosks where the owner is always there). We will share a link with a "live tx tracker" soon.

https://i.imgur.com/VCBq6t9m.png

1.4) Activation sites (activation points) to incentivize the cosumption. This consists in going to the merchant's location with our sales agents and promote Dash from there offering discounts from the store if they pay in Dash. This has helped us to reach up to 70 tx per day in each activation.
https://i.imgur.com/CTAs1mOm.png

1.5) Integration of Dash Text into our Dash Merchant POS. In this way anyone with a phone can easily pay in any Dash merchant just by typing a code and sending a SMS.
https://i.imgur.com/QHx6faGm.png

1.6) Development of web payment processor for web based merchants and integration with Dash Text.
https://i.imgur.com/uzco1WEm.png

1.7) Support to Krip phones sales (66,000 units sold).
 Our sales agents supported the sales of the Krip phones in the stores, they taught customers how to redeemed the paper wallets, how to use it and how to buy stuff with Dash. The Krip project has been a total success, in less than 6 months they have sold over 66,000 phones in Venezuela.
https://i.imgur.com/iVuK5wom.png

1.8) Instagram influencer campaign Over 400,000 people reached + 200% increased on followers. The influencer campaign we made during October-December 2018 was a total success. We will keep doing this type of campaigns in 2019.
https://i.imgur.com/uPIRqjnm.png
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2) WHAT'S NEXT?

2.1) Reach to 5000 merchants by May 2019. We will continue doing the affiliation work and our goal is having 5000 merchants by May 2019, then 10,000 before 2019 ends.
https://i.imgur.com/OHbAQ88m.png

2.2) Keep pushing the consumption up to 200 tx/day by May 2019. We will keep working on the "Incentivizing the consumption" stage of our strategy, doing activation points, discounts, promotion, etc. The most important thing is that people actually use Dash, and that is why this is one of the most important tasks.

https://i.imgur.com/tEyJpG8m.png

2.3) Continue follow ups. We need to ensure quality and now even more because we will double the number of merchants, so we need to monitor the activity very closely in order to make adjustments very fast. Quality is key.
https://i.imgur.com/jOYDNGbm.png

2.4) 15 video tutorials of "How to accept Dash". In this way merchants can be trained by their own with no need of the asistance from our sales agents. This will exponentially increased our efficiency because the content will be able for all the merchants and for free.
https://i.imgur.com/lZZ2mHvm.png

2.5) Over 200 #VenezuelaPaysWihDash videos. We wil continue this campaign on Youtube so anyone in the world can see what's going on in Venezuela with Dash and how regular users use Dash for their daily transactions.
https://i.imgur.com/sPXH8P1m.png

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3) BUDGET
https://i.imgur.com/5bjzKHal.png


Thanks so much for reading our proposal, please leave us your comments or questions, we will ve very happy to answer them.

Dash Merchant Team
Contact info:
Web: https://www.dashmerchant.org/
Instagram: dashmerchant. https://www.instagram.com/dashmerchant/?hl=en
Twitter: @dashmerchant. https://twitter.com/dashmerchant?lang=en

[img]https://i.imgur.com/xjqI47mt.png[/img]

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6 points,2 hours ago
I would like to give a personal testimonial for the DASH merchant project which is one of the most important and successful that DASH is running today, bringing in world wide media attention and inspiring other projects in South America to start promoting DASH.

We can see from the discover DASH website how Venezuela leads the world in the number of merchants that have been signed up. This is ready for when we address the remittance market.

https://discoverdash.com/stats/

Ryan Taylor and the DASH core team stated in their Q4 call that their focus is now on Venezuela as a high priority for their marketing and promotion focus. I think this shows the importance of Venezuela for DASH.

I wrote an in-depth article at the forum that explains all the reasons why Venezuela needs to be the focus for DASH marketing which you can see here:

https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/a-case-for-venezuela-why-focus-dash-promotion-in-venezuela-and-latin-america.40419/

A little background: I am an MNO and have been a business owner and entrepreneur now for over 25 years. I have been supporting Alejandro and Lorenzo and their team providing guidance and marketing advice for the past 8 months on their projects so I know this team well and the work they are doing. I have volunteered my time because I truly believe in this team and their vision of establishing DASH in Venezuela. I would not devote this amount of time to a good cause project if I did not truly believe this team will achieve that goal.

On average I spend anything between 3 to 8 hours a week communicating with Alejandro through signal calls, developing ideas and strategies to establish DASH in Venezuela. Over 8 months that is a considerable amount of my time on top of already a busy schedule of my own but it has been well worth the time when you see what this team have achieved in such a short time period.

At the beginning of 2018 there were no DASH merchants in Venezuela and now we have over 2500 merchants. As you may know this team is also responsible for other DASH project DASH Help providing World wide support to our users and tech support and DASH Text which is an innovative way for anyone to remit DASH using a simple low cost phone.

When Alejandro and Lorenzo started on this project nobody had done anything similar to this previously. They were starting completely from scratch working out how to establish DASH in a country were no precedent had been setup up previously.

However over the months and with continual refinements from feedback from customers and merchants we developed a strategy and plan for mass adoption. We had to find away around the “chicken and egg” situation ie. no customers and no merchants. In addition the liquidity of DASH is not sufficient in Venezuela. Our plans and goals had to address all these issues effectively for mass adoption to occur.

The plan for mass adoption in Venezuela is as follows:

Phase 1. Setup the DASH support help centre to support new customers and merchants as we grow the ecosystem. The help centre will provide larger companies and brand names confidence to sign up DASH. We are already seeing the success of this with Subway, Church’s chicken, Pappa Johns and some other big brand names to come. These companies would not feel confident without having a technical support centre to back up their staff, provide training and support their customers questions. This has been COMPLETED.

Phase 2. Merchant Sign Ups

The second phase is to sign up and train merchants quickly to learn from them and refine the merchant sign up process. The goal was to learn the merchants needs so that we can develop a POS system to meet those needs and to move on to the most important shops of all which are supermarkets and mini markets. All the merchants have been instructed that we are setting them up with DASH ready for when we can get DASH into the hands of the people through remittances from oversees.

With over 4 million Venezuelans now how left the country they want to make remittances home to support their families. The remittance market will bring in billions of USD in DASH into Venezuela. However people will not make remittances until they know their family in Venezuela can spend their DASH on food at supermarkets, and mini markets along with other essential items such as Pharmacy goods. Therefore in order for the remittance market to work we must first sign up the food shops, pharmacies and other essential shops that support every day life in Venezuela. That is the focus of this funding to achieve that. Without this the remittance market will not work. We must sign up large numbers of supermarkets and mini markets and now we can do that since the POS system for the food industry and now been developed.

The merchants that have been signed up already have been instructed that it will take some time before they will receive volume customers until we can address the remittance market but the are ready and waiting for this to happen.

This project is therefore to fund the signing up of food shops, mini markets and supermarkets so that we can move to the final stage which is to bring DASH into Venezuela through the remittance markets.

We expect that once the oversees family members realise their families in Venezuela can buy food and essential items the remittance market will take off because there is no low cost and efficient way currently to remit money to Venezuela because of sanctions and very high remittances costs. The remittance market will only work however if we get the food shops signed up which is what this proposal is all about.

Phase 3 is the Remittance market to bring large quantities of DASH into Venezuela

We have been following this plan systematically and we have been successful in each stage.

We have seen some comments saying that the transaction numbers of 150 to 200 per day are low however that is what we expect until we get to the remittance market going. Having said this it is still higher than anywhere else in the world for real world users. Currently people in Venezuela do not have sufficient DASH in the ecosystem but once we address the remittance markets the transactions will be expect to raise exponentially.

There is no short cut or other way around establishing DASH in a country. It is not possible to do all the stages at once as some people seem to expect. It is simply not possible.

The fact that over 4 million people have left Venezuela has created a huge remittance market but to tap into that market we need to sign these food shops up and this is where this project comes in.

This project is the most successful project that DASH has had in terms of numbers of genuine consumer transactions and merchant sign ups and this is even before we have signed up food shops and addressed the remittance market. I encourage all community members to look at the results that have been achieved with this team. This team are on track and have delivered every milestone even with the DASH price decreases.
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4 points,2 hours ago
Thank you so much for all you guys do!
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0 points,1 hour ago
I don't know much about remittance, but I feel like incentivizing spending with Dash is more important. I thought that Dash Merchant considers this the next big phase in the project as well, but you didn't mention this at all.

Anyway great job, keep it up. Dash Merchant is great.
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0 points,1 hour ago
Well said DeepBlue. I agree. DCG Bus Dev main strategy is targeting Latin America highlighting Venezuela as a focus point. If Dash can't make it work in Venezuela where central banking has failed we have serious problems. Venezuelans need cryptocurrency right now. This team has done a phenomenal job in 2018 and I'm sure will continue to deliver bigger results for 2019.
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0 points,35 minutes ago
I couldn't agree more. This is a sound and sensible approach with a budget and cost that can be supported by the Dash Network in a sustainable manner, even during the bottom of a bear market. You'll continue to get my yes votes.

Walter
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-5 points,5 hours ago
This proposal is full of HOT AIR.

Little has been achieved in this bankrupt country, BUT YES OUR MONEY IS LOST FOREVER !!!

Us Dash MNOs, we are getting ripped-off on all levels here.

The handed in calculation reveals how we are getting fleeced here: THEY ARE PAYING SALARIES WORTH OF HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE YET THE WHOLE PROJECT TEAM HARDLY GETS TO A DOZEN !!!! They are just filling their pockets with DAO funds. No, No, No !!!

How stupid do these people in Venezuela think the Dash community actually is ?

VOTING NO.

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4 points,2 days ago
Damn this budget proposal thread has it all :

* an ocean of spamming comments from oceanman, who doesnt notice this is all actually backfiring at him as it irritate masternode owners more then anything.

* comments from realmrhack ranging from wild aquisations (accusing OP to be part of some omni group ? really ?) to usage of excessive questioning techniques. If only realmrhack was a valid masternode owner... sighh.
If only realmrhack could use one post to bundle his many many many thoughts... sighh.

* a now yellow colored budget propsal that is making certain people see red.

This is great, by all means please continue.
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-1 point,1 day ago
LOL yup not an MNO i just waste my time putting in comments on all proposals. Great assessment detective. You sure got great intellectual ability to assess the proposal or lack thereof
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2 points,1 day ago
I wont trust any comment made by you unless you verify yourself. It doesn't take long. 5 min max
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-4 points,1 day ago
I'd rather not trust THE VENEZUELA CONNECTION...

After having dumped so much money already down there trying to skim off another 1.500 Dash now is just too much to be asked for.
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1 point,1 day ago
Well, lets be real here, all you are at this point is a whitelisted commenter. Without any proof you actually own any Dash or any
Masternodes. Even oceanman with his many flaws actually provides proof he is a masternode owner.

Why should a budget proposal creator pay this much time and energy to only a whitelisted commenter who also throws in wild personal aquisations like you do in this budget proposal ? The answer is simple... he should not.
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2 points,1 day ago
aquisations --> accusations
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-1 point,1 day ago
Please no more accusations about Realmrhack´s aquisations
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-2 points,1 day ago
Lol
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-2 points,20 hours ago
:-) It's getting cozy here :-)
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-2 points,1 day ago
Great investigating!!

You sure nailed it on the coffin!

And if you wherent aware alot of MNO dont care to have a flag beside their handles for obvious reasons.

But quite clearly if your unable to accurately ascertain that Im an MNO, than clearly you should not have any votes on the dao perhaps lucky by accident?
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-3 points,1 day ago
You seem to be the only one hallucinating this ocean of spamming... I just analyzed this project in depth and publicize all the drawbacks and flaws so that MNOs can decide what they want.

LET US STOP THIS ILL-DEVISED PROPOSAL JUST DEMANDING TOO MUCH MONEY !!!

ANYBODY WANTING TO SEE OUR ----> 1.500 DASH <---- OF DAO FUNDS GOING DOWN THE PLUGHOLE VOTE YES....

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-4 points,18 hours ago
This project is clearly one of the more controversial ones where Dash MNOs just don't wanna get pulled over the table yet another time. So, an in-depth discussion is definitely needed.

I PREDICT THAT THIS PROJECT WILL BE THE NEXT BIG MESS FOR THE DASH COMMUNITY'S ENGAGEMENT IN VENEZUELA.

----> 1.500 Dash in order to generate transactions worth a couple of hundred dollars... THIS IS LUNACY.

Anybody voting on this proposal please take the time and read the discussion below. Critical voices are being silenced and overrun by a handful of people who seem to be involved in cutting the cake...

VOTING NO.
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-4 points,1 day ago
This proposal is full of nice words, but looking at the numbers the outlook is bleak. Taking into consideration the poor track record in the past and now demanding once more for ----> 1.500 Dash <---- we are really fed up with these kind of VENEZUELA JUNGLE ADVENTURES !!!

Prices and salaries in Venezuela are very low due to hyperinflation. Yet this proposal spends tens of thousands of dollars in "human ressource costs". VERY HARD TO BELIEVE.

ALTHOUGH THIS PROJECT IS ONLY RUN BY ABOUT A DOZEN PEOPLE, THEY ARE CHARGING US SALARIES FOR OVER 500 PEOPLE !!!

THIS JUST THE NEXT RIP-OFF PROJECT BY THE VENEZUELA CONNECTION !!!

STAY AWAY !!!

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-5 points,1 day ago
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We have really had enough of empty promises of the Venezuela connection.

This project is highly problematic !!!

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The concept proposed here is very hard to believe after all the bad experiences we had in Venezuela.

Most obviously, 1.500 Dash is extreme for what is being intended. Anybody familiar with matters in Venezuela knows that the Dash community will not get back anything close to this extreme amount that is being invested.

VOTING NO.

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-5 points,1 day ago
Reality check:

Let's face it: Despite it's high claims, the numbers of real Dash transcations in this run-down country have remained ridiculously small. This proposal goes great lengths to tell Dash MNOs what they wanna hear... to milk the cow....

If you do a reality check this proposal for 1.500 Dash comes down to a lot of HOT AIR after all.

MNOs be CAUTIOUS !!! This is a lot of money we cannot afford to waste into this Venezuelan basket case.

VOTING NO.

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-2 points,2 days ago
Hi Alejandro,


Could you please provide the data and information pertaining to the dash gove aways you have done

I look forward to reviewing this data

Thank you.
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-6 points,1 day ago
THIS IS BY FAR THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL DAO FUNDING PROPOSAL OUT THERE THESE DAYS !!!

No wonder. After past disappointing experiences of the Dash community in Venezuela now demanding another hefty 1.500 Dash in this proposal here really knocks the bottom out of the barrel....

On top of this, suggesting a 5 MONTH project in such an unstable environment like Venezuela these days (where you can't even predict the price of any item ten days ahead due to hyperinflation and the country virtually falling apart...) IS JUST UNPROFESSIONAL !!!

Let us stop this loony budgeting proposal which is based on too many wrong assumptions !!!

Before we all lose a vast amount of money once more !!!

VOTING NO !!!
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1 point,1 day ago
Hola hombre del mar,

haces un esfuerzo increíble para enseñarnos aquí..

Una pregunta, por qué estas gritando siempre? En mí opinión no puedes transmitir tu mensaje en este forma y al final vas a lograr el contrario.

Y para curiosidad, que haces dos veces por mes en Venezuela?
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-6 points,1 day ago
I'd love to talk in Spanish to you, but let's remain polite and keep this in English here. At work in Caracas I gotta talk in Spanish all day long anyway...

The variables for our Dash engagement in Venezuela have changed so much during the recent weeks and months that cannot afford to keep going like before and let the DAO funds rain down over this ruined country.

I DON'T WANNA SEE ANOTHER ----> 1.500 DASH <---- BEING WORTHLESSLY DUMPED IN KIM YONG MADUROS EMPIRE.
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-5 points,2 days ago
And here comes the next big adventure of the Venezuela connection... this time for the bargain of only 1.500 Dash... let's see what's in the grab bag this time:


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This proposal is FATAL on several levels and once more brings about NO INCREASE IN DASH TRANSACTIONS !!! On the one hand for financial reasons as well as for conceptual misjudgments on the other. We MNOs should avoid dumping another vast amount of DAO funds into this project with a very foreseeable outcome: ZERO ACHIEVEMENTS .

Let's go it through:

1) FINANCES: The amount of DAO funds being asked for is excessive. The more if you see the value of 1.500 DASH in the context of the true Venezuelan price level. This proposal calculates everything on the basis of US prices... Tricky Alejandro doesn't feel inclined to hand in a calculation or the spendings in Bolivares Soberanos, no, no. These people want US dollars ! (That's what the DAO dash funds will be converted into asap...)

In Venezuela everything is being paid for in the local currency, the Bolivar Soberano (BsS). Obviously. No matter if Alejandro pays for the office rent, public transport, the electricity bill, the restaurant bill, his car, his beach vacation... it is in the local currency.

This month the average salary that 95% of the Venezuelan population receive is 8.000 BsS. With this amount of money people make a living, pay their bills, buy their food, pay their rent, etc...
It is not a lot of money, but together with the governmental food boxes (CLAPs) people can make ends meet.

Now Alejandro comes here, and tells us far-away gringos that he urgently needs 1.500 Dash - cash on the barrelhead ! Do you guys know how much money that is in Venezuela ???

With the exchange rate of today (1.890 BsS for 1 US-$) this amounts to unbelievable 226.800.000 BsS. Yes, you have heard it: 226 million Bolivares. Or in other words 28.350 MONTHLY SALARIES.
How uninformed do these people in Venezuela think we Dash MNOs are ???

WITH 1.500 DASH YOU CAN EMPLOY ONE THOUSAND PEOPLE FOR 28 MONTHS !!! Will this project bring about results worth the work of 1.000 workers ??? NO !!! At best, the work of half a dozen people. The same ones that are lining their pockets here !!!

HOW STUPID DO YOU GUYS THINK THE DASH COMMUNITY IS ???

These 1.500 Dash are equivalent to buying 20 apartments in Venezuela !!!

NO, NO, NO. THIS BUDGET IS NOT SET UP TO PROMOTE DASH IN THIS RUN-DOWN COUNTRY, IT IS TO LET A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE HAVE A NICE LIFESTYLE IN THE SUN !!!



2) FLAWED CONCEPT: Let's make it quick. The concept has already failed in the past and it will keep failing in the future -- despite all the excuses more time was needed (as long as the cash keeps flowing in from us...).

One of the core approaches of this proposal is to enter cooperation agreements with restaurants, fast-food chains, stores, etc. Potential customers should have the option to pay in Dash. OK, so far. Now, if that was in the US that would be great. Right ? The thing is, we are in third-world, socialist controlled Venezuela. It doesn't work there. Fast-food restaurants are empty ! Potential customers neither have the money, nor can they buy at such high prices ! Say a hamburger would cost you three days work, or more. Nobody will buy one. These fast-food chains are already dead companies. It is just a matter of time until they all close down. Busineses have been closing down for the last year and a half. So, it doesn't make any difference if Alejandro now signs worthless cooperation agreements with companies that won't exist anymore in a few months time !!!

THE COOPERATION AGGREEMENTS INTENDED BY THIS PROJECT ARE NOT EVEN WORTH THEIR PAPER AS THEY ARE DONE WITH ECONOMIC ZOMBIES !!!

NO WONDER, THERE IS ONLY A RIDICULOUS AMOUNT OF TRANSACTIONS IN DASH IN VZLA.

In the future they will rather be less then more. And Alejandro keeps dreaming of and promises us an economic recovery. The next years the whole country is going down the plughole - and our money with it !!!

Either this man lives in cloud cuckoo land or he thinks us Dash MNOs we are a bunch of gringo idiots. YOU DECIDE WHAT HAPPENS WITH YOUR MONEY.

VOTING NO.
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3 points,1 day ago
This is actually the 2nd time this person (or group or people) posts the same message on this proposal (and he/she/they have been spamming the whole proposal with similar comments). I will reply it for 2nd time (copy/paste from the same comment below):
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Quote from oceanman: “This month the average salary that 95% of the Venezuelan population receive is 8.000 BsS. With this amount of money people make a living, pay their bills, buy their food, pay their rent, etc...”

Reading this I realize this person (or group of people) know NOTHING about Venezuela and its costs. Just a regular meal costs around 4000 BsS. So yes, the super salary you are talking about will last you for 2 meals.

I kindly invite you to buy 1 ticket to Venezuela, I will give you a special tour here and you will understand how this economy works.

PS: please find other source of information because the one you are using now is completely wrong.

Alejandro
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-2 points,1 day ago
It is certainly not the same message, Alejandro. Your proposal has dozens of flaws. To analyze and list all these takes time. I am willing to do that for our community i order to reduce our FAILED VENEZUELA ENGAGEMENT and to avoid further rip-offs as in former Venezuela proposals (not yours) where the proposal owner seems to have diappeared... WITH THE MONEY, OF COURSE...
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10 points,4 days ago
Hi Alejandro,

How many of the following merchants are currently accepting Dash in Venezuela:

Green Grocers / SuperMarkets
Electricity/other bill Providers
Leasing/Letting/Landlord Agencies
Transport Services

If you had the exact breakdown that would be great. I would really appreciate if there was a bigger emphasis put on the above merchants. I think one of these merchants could be worth magnitudes more than most of the bar/cafe/restaurant integrations. I think these are key to giving people confidence that they can start earning some Dash in their salary.
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5 points,4 days ago
Hello Ageless, thanks for your question:

- Green Grocers / SuperMarkets: 17 green grocers. We haven't affiliated big Super markets because we didn't have the technological solutions to offer to this type of companies (like POS and web Payment processor). Now that we have developed it we are ready to go and one of our focus in this proposal will be affiliate super markets and pharmacies which are basics for Venezuelan, and this will connect directly with the remittances project.

- Electricity/other bill providers: the electricity distribution in Venezuela is owned by the government, so we are not be able to affiliate electricity providers yet.

- Leasing/Letting/Landlord agencies: 29, this includes Remax, other real state agencies and car leasing companies.

- Transport: 15. These are almost all taxi drivers and they are one of the most active merchants we have in Caracas.

The rest of our merchants includes:

- Restaurants (low, middle and high class)
- Kiosks
- Shoes stores
- General clothe store
- Celular/tech stores
- Hotels and tourist agencies
- Beauty (barbershops and spa)
- Proffesional services (attorneys, accountants, disgners).
- Health services: dentists, physicians.
- Sport/fitness stores.
- Chefs
- Pets stores
- Furnitore stores.
- And more.

Thanks again for your questions.

Alejandro
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1 point,3 days ago
Thanks for the breakdown.

Makes sense about the electricity. Perhaps the government will accept Dash transactions for bill payments as this continues to grow.

Do you think there's a strategy we could encompass around letting/landlord agencies? Maybe through some form of subsidy we could discount rents and encourage people to pay their rent in Dash. This would then incentivise a worker to take some of their salary in Dash? Do Dash accepting merchants currently have the capability to pay their staff in Dash or would the liquidity constraint make that unreliable?
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1 point,2 days ago
Hello Ageless thanks again for your question.

A focused strategy for letting/landlord agencies can be set up but due to the way Venezuelan market/economy is working, the best current strategy is focusing in grocery stores and supermarkets, since they sell essential products for people (food).

Another reason we haven’t affiliated supermarkets is because we decided to learn first with smaller merchants (althought we habe big merchants as well): what are their problems? How Dash can solve these problems? What is the best way to pitch them about Dash? What are the concerns of these merchants regarding cryptocurrencies?

Now that we have learned the details, we have the right tools developed (pos and web payment processor) and that we have demostrated merchants are willing to accept Dash, we will now go to the supermarkets. This will connect directly with the remittances. So we are building a solid infrastructure.

Regarding your other question: merchants are able to pay their employees in Dash and since many companies are paying “special bonus” to their employees in USD, this represent a perfect opportunity for Dash because they don’t have to open a US bank account or take the risk of having cash in their hands. So it is perfectly reliable.

Let me know if you have more questions.

Thanks again.

Alejandro
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2 points,2 days ago
A lot of interesting feedback in there. I like the idea of companies paying employees bonuses in Dash. Yes from me, good luck!
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1 point,2 days ago
Thanks ageless, we will keep workong hard a showing real results!

Alejandro
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-3 points,4 days ago
The true answer is (and what nobody wants to tell you):

Green grocers ... NONE
Supermarkets ... NONE
Electricity providers ... NONE (in a socialist country this is free, if you have one of the few days with electricity)
landlord agencies ... NONE
transport services ... NONE
leasing agencies ... NONE

Restaurants ... a handful ... (but nobody can afford to buy there...)
Fast-food chains ... a handful ... (but nobody can afford to buy there...)

THIS WHOLE PROPOSAL IS TOTALLY DETACHED FROM WHAT THE MARKET OT THE CUSTOMERS WANT.

I am still impressed about the illusions people have here in the forum about Venezuela. It is NOT a free-market economy. People can't decide what they wanna do. THE ECONOMY IS BANKRUPT ON ALL LEVELS. And it will stay like this for next 20 years. Alejandro's promised economic recovery will take place as much as in Cuba or in North Corea.
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3 points,4 days ago
Dear MNOs and community members. If you please take a look through our proposal you will see the following users Oceanman and RealMrHack are posting repeated overly negative comments in our proposal in an attempt to derail it. We welcome constructive feedback so that we can improve or projects however you will notice that these user's criticisms are not constructive comments. We have also already taken time to address their points. They are however repeating with overly negative attacking comments with the same conclusion of "Voting No" stated many times. Since we have already taken the time to fairly address their arguments we have therefore decided we will no longer be responding to them other than with this statement.

We have seen attacks of this nature on other DASH past proposals where a small group of users attack a proposal in a systematic way posting non constructive, overly negative feedback just as these users are doing. We will not jump to a conclusion as to who these people are however but ask yourself where have you seen this type of behaviour previously.

We ask that each community member please fairly assess for yourself our achievements in 2018 which you know from our frequent community feedback with links to evidence in all our proposals. I wish to emphasis again we welcome constructive feedback so please feel free to post your comments if they will help us to improve.

Thank you for your support on our project and we look forward to once again over delivering for DASH in 2019.

Alejandro Echeverria
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19 points,5 days ago
You get my support guys.
I don't like the proposals which have the duration more than 3 months but your case is an exception.
You're one of not many projects in Dash DAO which delivers over what you claim to do.
What Dash needs is a real use case and your plan is exactly focused on it.
I wish, you guys are funded and show the unbelievers they were wrong ;)
Keep calm and focus on the right things.
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2 points,5 days ago
Hello splawik21, thanks so much for your words and support. As you say, we will stay focused on our goal and we will keep showing everybody real results.

Thanks again!

AlejandroE
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-2 points,4 days ago
Sorry, but you are wrong on every phrase.

Venezuela is NOT a use case for DASH. People are starving, have no money, no electricity, are rushing out of the country by the millions. It is a NORTH COREAN-style economy. All businesses have left/are leaving the country.

It doesn't matter to people if they can pay in Dash in such a mess... and the numbers prove that.

Any proposal of more than three months in such an unstable environment is unprofessional... and a WASTE OF MONEY .

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-13 points,2 days ago
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MNOs be very cautious with this proposal as it has repeatedly not met its goals in the past !!!

The whole concept of incurring cooperations with half-dead companies is set up to please us Dash MNOs, but has nothing to do with real world adoption of Dash.

And last but not least, demanding ----> 1.500 Dash <---- in such an unstable environment as Venezuela smells too much of RIP-OFF !!!

Please read the discussion below where other MNOs deeply expressed their reserve regarding this project.


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2 points,2 days ago
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20 points,5 days ago
At a time when the budget is tight due to the low Dash price, this is one of the few proposals I will vote for.

When I analyze a proposal, I look at two main factors: (1) the need being addressed; and (2) the ability of the team to deliver on that need. Because of this, I think this proposal is an obvious “yes” vote.

First, the need. Other than the Core team maintaining and improving the network, there is no work being done right now more important than expanding Dash’s reach in Venezuela. I’ve been involved in cryptocurrency for over five years, and from the beginning the biggest hurdle is mass adoption. Such adoption will not come overnight, and it will take a lot of work to happen. But in Venezuela we have (tragically) the best situation to push mass adoption, and we can’t miss this opportunity, both to help the people in Venezuela and to help Dash.

Second, the team. No team is better set up to push mass adoption in Venezuela than the Dash Merchant team. They have been at the grassroots of the most exciting news for Dash (and cryptocurrency) of the past year: its increasing adoption in socialist-run Venezuela. To be honest, we’d have little good Dash-related news in the past year if not for what’s happening in that country, partly because of Dash Merchant.

Therefore, I give this proposal a strong recommendation and urge other MNO’s to vote “yes”.

(Note: I have no financial or other attachment to the Dash Merchant team, other than my support.)
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2 points,5 days ago
Hello ericsammons, thank you very much for your support.

We are very honored about your words. We will keep working very hard bring value to Dash and the whole world knows what Dash is capable of. We are achieving great things together.

AlejandroE
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-4 points,4 days ago
Eric, thank you for your comment. I believe you that you are one of the true believers here and that you put your trust in this rotten project.

Quote ericsammons:
When I analyze a proposal, I look at two main factors: (1) the need being addressed; and (2) the ability of the team to deliver on that need.

Well, what people need in Venezuela is medication, they need food, they need money and they need stores that are not empty but filled with products.

The inability of the team has already been proven. The numbers show that. As the whole country slides further downward the low-level numbers crumble even more. FROM BAD TO WORSE.

This whole proposal doesn't work out in an economic environment like in Venezuela. If the proposal was implemented in the US, that would be great. But it is in worn-out Venezuela.

Nevertheless the project team wants dollars !!! And the whole proposal is calculated in US-$.... HOW COME ???

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-11 points,2 days ago
@everyone

Most of you guys really need to do some due dillegence when it comes to VZ 99% of MNO have never stepped foot in their country

Have not seen the despair, and how people are consistently looking for handouts.

The dream that many MNO have that VZ will one day be 'dash nation' could not be further from the truth.

I would urge MNO to really do some digging and see the level of despair in their country.

Having bunch of silly merchants is like putting the cart before the horse.

I cant wait to say 'i told you so'

You guys where all going Bananas when shrem came along offering us his card. Where did that go?

And i was the only individuals sounding the alarm bells then too.

I look forward to that day!
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-7 points,3 days ago
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1.500 DASH for this deluded project ? -------- NO, THANK YOU.


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0 points,4 days ago
I think it's clear at this point that the grassroots projects as a whole have largely been unsuccessful, and not because they failed to onboard merchants--clearly they did--and not because the team was unprofessional or inefficient--clearly they were very professional and worked very efficiently. These projects have been unsuccessful because they are only a piece of actual adoption and not the whole in and of themselves, and too many people expected that this is all it would take to lead to the fabled "mass adoption." Onboarding merchants is just a component of it, the other pieces also need to fall in to place. So personally, I applaud the work of Alejandro, Lorenzo, and their team. They did just about as well as anyone could be expected to do, but now I believe the focus needs to shift to filling in those other missing pieces.

I know that DMV has specific plans of their own to help fill these pieces in, and I believe that the "Dash Retail" project will constitute another enormous part of that puzzle, but personally, I would like to see merchant onboarding to scale back and for merchant support and work toward incentivizing use and reducing friction for consumers to both obtain and spend Dash to be the focus of the project moving forward until we can demonstrate that the huge number of merchants that you've so expertly onboarded are really seeing sustained, widespread Dash activity.

So I support your work and your efforts, but I'd like to see some things change and a reduced price that reflects those changes. Still, if there's room in this month's budget, I don't want to see your efforts go unfunded. You're doing good work--no doubts about that, and I'm dismayed at some of the needlessly aggressive, shortsighted comments by other MNOs--it just has to be the right work for the network at the right time if you want to secure funding.
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5 points,4 days ago
Hello Arthyron. Thank you very much for your comment.

Rather than "unsuccessful" I would call it "not complete yet". You are right, Dash Merchant Venezuela is just 1 component of the whole thing, we were aware of this since the very beginning that is why we designed the "Strategy for Adoption" were the Getting the merchant is just the 1st stage.

When we first launch Dash Merchant Venezuela we didn't promise the transactions right away, we promise getting the merchants and then follow on with the next things. Now that we demostrated success in getting the merchants, it is now time to move forward to next steps and in this proposal we will focus on: get more merchants, support and monitor the existing ones (like you suggest) and incentivize the consumption.

Other piece that still left in the puzze is "Get Dash into people hands" which we are already working on it with a very interesting remittances project (coming soon).

We don't have the answer to all things but we are aware that our job is not complete yet and adoption is not a fast thing, we need to keep working on the strategy and improving it.

I know you are not skeptical but I want to people understand that no other crypto has done what Dash has done (in Venezuela and worldwide). Thousands of merchants, big brand names merchants (Subway, Papa John's, Church's Chicken, local franchises), videos of real use cases, exlusive POS for Dash, exclusive web payment processor, Dash Text, an exclusive support center for helping users and merchants. It is just amazing what we have done in just 1 year (+ fighting a bear market the whole time).

Thank you very much for yout suggestions, we always take them and try to apply the positive feedback from the community.

Alejandro Echeverria
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1 point,3 days ago
Certainly, we could interpret it that way as well, but I think--perhaps apart from your team and its goals and expectations and thus unfairly and uncharitably reflecting on you--many people in the DAO put a lot more emphasis on and hope in simply onboarding merchants as the be-all, end-all, and clearly it's not, at least not by itself. That's what I would suggest you make an effort to emphasize. You recognized this early on, as did I, but I don't think a lot of the rest of the community were considering that. We've got a long way to go, but I'm confident that your team will keep doing whatever it needs to in order to achieve its goals.
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2 points,2 days ago
Hello Arthyron, we will definitely take your advice into account. We will keep working very hard and do whatever it needs in order to achieve our goals, just as you mentioned.

Thank you very much again.

Alejandro
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-4 points,4 days ago
Highly unsuccessful !

Dash MNOs be CAUTIOUS !!!

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-8 points,3 days ago
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The Dash community is really fed up of proposals like these.

Coming back here now and asking for ---> 1.500 DASH <--- after the earlier projects had a poor track record and now demanding such a HEFTY AMOUNT of DAO funds is what MNOs are really tired of.

One wonders how most of the other proposals here (some from first-world countries...) get along with humble amounts of money. Yet the Venezuelan boys need vast amounts of US-DOLLARS for the next project in one of the poorest countries of the western hemisphere.

THIS IS JUST GREED HERE !!!

As laid out by several members in the discussion below MNOs are increasingly suspicious of the core concept of this proposal: Agreements with almost dead companies that generate practically no sales at all. And even less transactions with Dash.

One of the poor achievements so far have been exactly 12 cab drivers in run-down Caracas who offer the option to pay in Dash. Nobody can afford to pay a taxi anymore in this socialist-controlled country except from a few foreigners. The total amount of taxi rides paid with Dash gets maybe to 20 per month. And we financed this with hundreds and thousands of Dash in the past !!! And now they are coming back asking for even more.

THIS IS JUST OUTRAGEOUS !!!

CLEARLY VOTING NO !!!

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2 points,5 days ago
Dear MNOs and community members. If you please take a look through our proposal you will see the following users Ocenaman and RealMrHack are posting repeated overly negative comments in our proposal in an attempt to derail it. We welcome constructive feedback so that we can improve or projects however you will notice that these user's criticisms are not constructive comments. We have also already taken time to address their points. They are however repeating with overly negative attacking comments with the same conclusion of "Voting No" stated many times. Since we have already taken the time to fairly address their arguments we have therefore decided we will no longer be responding to them other than with this statement.

We have seen attacks of this nature on other DASH past proposals where a small group of users attack a proposal in a systematic way posting non constructive, overly negative feedback just as these users are doing. We will not jump to a conclusion as to who these people are however but ask yourself where have you seen this type of behaviour previously.

We ask that each community member please fairly assess for yourself our achievements in 2018 which you know from our frequent community feedback with links to evidence in all our proposals. I wish to emphasis again we welcome constructive feedback so please feel free to post your comments if they will help us to improve.

Thank you for your support on our project and we look forward to once again over delivering for DASH in 2019.

Alejandro Echeverria
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-3 points,4 days ago
And here comes the next one of Alejandro's special Venezuela adventures... this time for the bargain of only 1.500 Dash... let's see what's in the grab bag this time:


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This proposal is FLAWED on several levels and will eventually be UNSUCCESSFUL - once more ! On the one hand for financial reasons as well as for conceptual misjudgments on the other. We MNOs should avoid dumping another vast amount of DAO funds into this project with a very foreseeable outcome: ZERO ACHIEVEMENTS .

Let's go it through:

1) FINANCES: The amount of DAO funds being asked for is excessive. The more if you see the value of 1.500 DASH in the context of the true Venezuelan price level. This proposal calculates everything on the basis of US prices... Tricky Alejandro doesn't feel inclined to hand in a calculation or the spendings in Bolivares Soberanos, no, no. These people want US dollars ! (That's what the DAO dash funds will be converted into asap...)

In Venezuela everything is being paid for in the local currency, the Bolivar Soberano (BsS). Obviously. No matter if Alejandro pays for the office rent, public transport, the electricity bill, the restaurant bill, his car, his beach vacation... it is in the local currency.

This month the average salary that 95% of the Venezuelan population receive is 8.000 BsS. With this amount of money people make a living, pay their bills, buy their food, pay their rent, etc...
It is not a lot of money, but together with the governmental food boxes (CLAPs) people can make ends meet.

Now Alejandro comes here, and tells us far-away gringos that he urgently needs 1.500 Dash - cash on the barrelhead ! Do you guys know how much money that is in Venezuela ???

With the exchange rate of today (1.890 BsS for 1 US-$) this amounts to unbelievable 226.800.000 BsS. Yes, you have heard it: 226 million Bolivares. Or in other words 28.350 MONTHLY SALARIES.
How uninformed do these people in Venezuela think we Dash MNOs are ???

WITH 1.500 DASH YOU CAN EMPLOY ONE THOUSAND PEOPLE FOR 28 MONTHS !!! Will this project bring about results worth the work of 1.000 workers ??? NO !!! At best, the work of half a dozen people. The same ones that are lining their pockets here !!!

HOW STUPID DO YOU GUYS THINK THE DASH COMMUNITY IS ???

These 1.500 Dash are equivalent to buying 20 apartments in Venezuela !!!

NO, NO, NO. THIS BUDGET IS NOT SET UP TO PROMOTE DASH IN THIS RUN-DOWN COUNTRY, IT IS TO LET A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE HAVE A NICE LIFESTYLE IN THE SUN !!!



2) FLAWED CONCEPT: Let's make it quick. The concept has already failed in the past and it will keep failing in the future -- despite all the excuses more time was needed (as long as the cash keeps flowing in from us...).

One of the core approaches of this proposal is to enter cooperation agreements with restaurants, fast-food chains, stores, etc. Potential customers should have the option to pay in Dash. OK, so far. Now, if that was in the US that would be great. Right ? The thing is, we are in third-world, socialist controlled Venezuela. It doesn't work there. Fast-food restaurants are empty ! Potential customers neither have the money, nor can they buy at such high prices ! Say a hamburger would cost you three days work, or more. Nobody will buy one. These fast-food chains are already dead companies. It is just a matter of time until they all close down. Busineses have been closing down for the last year and a half. So, it doesn't make any difference if Alejandro now signs worthless cooperation agreements with companies that won't exist anymore in a few months time !!!

THE COOPERATION AGGREEMENTS INTENDED BY THIS PROJECT ARE NOT EVEN WORTH THEIR PAPER AS THEY ARE DONE WITH ECONOMIC ZOMBIES !!!

NO WONDER, THERE IS ONLY A RIDICULOUS AMOUNT OF TRANSACTIONS IN DASH IN VZLA.

In the future they will rather be less then more. And Alejandro keeps dreaming of and promises us an economic recovery. The next years is going down the plughole - and our money with it !!!

Either this man lives in cloud cuckoo land or he thinks us Dash MNOs we are a bunch of gringo idiots. YOU DECIDE WHAT HAPPENS WITH YOUR MONEY.

VOTING NO.

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4 points,4 days ago
Quote from oceanman: “This month the average salary that 95% of the Venezuelan population receive is 8.000 BsS. With this amount of money people make a living, pay their bills, buy their food, pay their rent, etc...”

Reading this I realize this person (or group of people) know NOTHING about Venezuela and its costs. Just a regular meal costs around 4000 BsS. So yes, the super salary you are talking about will last you for 2 meals.

I kindly invite you to buy 1 ticket to Venezuela, I will give you a special tour here and you will understand how this economy works.

PS: please find other source of information because the one you are using now is completely wrong.

Alejandro
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3 points,4 days ago
To OceanMan, keep throwing the mud, and watch the approval votes keep zooming upward. I, for one, will not abandon Venezuela or Alejandro and his team.
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-3 points,4 days ago
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GOOD LUCK ON THE TITANIC !!!

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3 points,4 days ago
Dear MNOs and community members. If you please take a look through our proposal you will see the following users Oceanman and RealMrHack are posting repeated overly negative comments in our proposal in an attempt to derail it. We welcome constructive feedback so that we can improve or projects however you will notice that these user's criticisms are not constructive comments. We have also already taken time to address their points. They are however repeating with overly negative attacking comments with the same conclusion of "Voting No" stated many times. Since we have already taken the time to fairly address their arguments we have therefore decided we will no longer be responding to them other than with this statement.

We have seen attacks of this nature on other DASH past proposals where a small group of users attack a proposal in a systematic way posting non constructive, overly negative feedback just as these users are doing. We will not jump to a conclusion as to who these people are however but ask yourself where have you seen this type of behaviour previously.

We ask that each community member please fairly assess for yourself our achievements in 2018 which you know from our frequent community feedback with links to evidence in all our proposals. I wish to emphasis again we welcome constructive feedback so please feel free to post your comments if they will help us to improve.

Thank you for your support on our project and we look forward to once again over delivering for DASH in 2019.

Alejandro Echeverria
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0 points,4 days ago
@alejandro lets be direct:

Are you part of omni marketting group or not?
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4 points,4 days ago
@Realmrhack We are not part of any marketing group and we don’t know any company called Omni.

Alejandro
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-1 point,3 days ago
Eugenias's Omni Marketing group..... uuuuuuuuuuffff.
What a nightmare...
She just ripped off 645 Dash from us.
And nobody does anything about it.
She is just having a great time spending the bucks on Isla Margarita....
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-4 points,4 days ago
Tell me about it, alejandro and his whole vz ciricle of friends


Including eugenia from Omni marketting group have effectivly convinced the dao to waste funds on them

Voting NO
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0 points,5 days ago
Too much for too little.
With all due respect but 200 txs by May 2019 is not a goal at all.
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1 point,5 days ago
Hello Ichigo13. Thanks for your comment.

Please take into account that, in general, cryptos are not being used in almost any country for daily purchases, transactions in the blockchain for most of the cryptos are from trading. Venezuela (an Colombia) is the only country which has demostrated real use cases of Dash in real merchants thanks to our work. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoNrgFUS6JyhTrvRwVE1K65g7xrX9VEDX

This is a new way of payment and we are having success on our strategy, we need to keep the work going. No other country has done what we have achieved.

I hope we have changed your mind. Thanks a lot and let us know if you have more comments or questions.

AlejandroE
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3 points,7 days ago
Love the defined goals as well as the summary of what you have completed so far. Excellent work and excellent proposal.
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2 points,7 days ago
Thanks for your support name3. We will keep working hard!
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-6 points,5 days ago
With the track record seen so far, coming now back and asking for 1.500 Dash over 5 months is OUTRAGEOUS !!!

Anybody voting on this proposal please take the time and read the discussion below. Critical voices are being silenced and overrun by a handful of people who seem to be involved in cutting the cake...

Dash Community --- STAY AWAY !

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0 points,5 days ago
Dear MNOs and community members. If you please take a look through our proposal you will see the following users Ocenaman and RealMrHack are posting repeated overly negative comments in our proposal in an attempt to derail it. We welcome constructive feedback so that we can improve our projects however you will notice that these user's criticisms are not constructive comments. We have also already taken time to address their points. They are however repeating with overly negative attacking comments with the same conclusion of "Voting No" stated many times. Since we have already taken the time to fairly address their arguments we have therefore decided we will no longer be responding to them other than with this statement.

We have seen attacks of this nature on other DASH past proposals where a small group of users attack a proposal in a systematic way posting non constructive, overly negative feedback just as these users are doing. We will not jump to a conclusion as to who these people are however but ask yourself where have you seen this type of behaviour previously.

We ask that each community member please fairly assess for yourself our achievements in 2018 which you know from our frequent community feedback with links to evidence in all our proposals. I wish to emphasis again we welcome constructive feedback so please feel free to post your comments if they will help us to improve.

Thank you for your support on our project and we look forward to once again over delivering for DASH in 2019.

Alejandro Echeverria
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7 points,8 days ago
Alejandro, Lorenzo and the Dash Merchant Venezuela team continue to deliver the goods with a strong work ethic. It's crucial we keep supporting this project as there is a lot of business development going on behind the scenes yet to be announced. I want to make sure these business integrations are completed and we do not miss out. 2018 was a great year for merchant adoption in Venezuela. Dash made a big impression and lessons were also learnt which has now lead the way to bigger opportunities for 2019. There are still many announcements to be made in the future and now Alejandro has mentioned it in another comment on this proposal, I can also confirm that thanks to their efforts and outreach there are "more big franchises to come". With the Discover Dash app now pushed out to all 66K+ KRIP phones we need to keep things moving forward as they're making solid progress and I'm excited to see them land some big fish for Dash. ;-)
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4 points,7 days ago
Hello Mark thanks for your support and words!

We will keep working hard and as you say, many great things are coming soon.

Thanks again!

AlejandroE
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-7 points,7 days ago
@MarkMason Well, Mark, what you are saying sounds all too good to be true. The thing is it doesn't have much to do with the present and less with the future situation in this socialist South American country.

The "big franchises to come in 2019" you are praising in VZLA are for the most part struggling for pure survival. The current situation is that they only have half a dozen customers per day. I was just in a BURGER KING IN CARACAS LAST WEEK AND I WAS THE ONLY CUSTOMER OF THE WHOLE AFTERNOON with my Big Mac. The manager told me they won't make it to the end of the year. And that holds true for all chains and restaurants in VZLA. If a burger costs you half your monthly salary, nobody will buy one - no matter with or without Dash payment. So, why would we invest into such a sinking ship ???
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4 points,7 days ago
To Oceanman,
People are critical of any approach, in this way. If you start with merchants, there are no consumers with Dash. If you start with consumers, there is no place to spend it. If they don't have a way to get Dash (remittances, airdrops, VZ destination travel, freelancers, etc.) then they have no Dash to spend.

The problem with that criticism is that we have to start somewhere. We started with entrepreneurs and merchants. Alejandro and team are working on the plan for how to get Dash in the hands of the people too. They're human. Stuff takes time. There are at least 4 necessary things to jump start the local economy. Consumers, Dash in consumer hands, Merchants, and enough education/publicity so consumers with Dash in their hands can find merchants who accept Dash.

Offering criticism that they aren't doing all 4 parts all at once is, in my assessment, both unrealistic and unhelpful.

Yes for me.
solarguy
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-4 points,5 days ago
solarguy, thank you for your response. Sorry, but I had to laugh out loud. Please take a plane to Venezuela and look around and then read your comment again about "jumpstarting the economy" in this strictly socialist country... HAHAHA.

You seem to think this is a normal country... Not anymore. Of the few things that are still left over, everything is completely going down the plughole...
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1 point,5 days ago
To oceanman, you seem to be bad at knowing what I think. I am the world's foremost expert on what I think. I don't think the circumstances in Venezuela are anything close to normal. They are far more like the Weimar Republic and their economy is in shambles. That's why they need a jump start, it's dead.

Despite your criticisms, I haven't seen you offer anything better. Tell me, what strategy would be faster than educating and signing up merchants, and then getting Dash in the hands of the people who need it?

solarguy
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0 points,4 days ago
solarguy, this is a Soviet style economy !!!

There are no merchants as we know them.
There are no businesses as we know them.
There are no free people as we know them.
There is no education system as we know it.
There is no functioning money as we know it.

And I happen to be twice a month right in the middle of this mess. So, don't tell me what a great potential is in Kim Yong Maduros empire...

People are starving in the street... and a few guys just wanna line their pockets...
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0 points,7 days ago
Thanks for your support solarguy!
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4 points,8 days ago
Yes from me.
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3 points,8 days ago
Thank you very much qwizzie!
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-3 points,7 days ago
Lickspittle.
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-5 points,7 days ago
@alejandro

1500 dash aka 120k USD

For roughly 200-400$ worth of tx per day

I would urge other MNO to read and interepret this data to meaningful decisions

Funneling further money for this particular project is not going tk yield actionable results until, we focus on further infrastructure

Majority of your budget 130~ dash is for paying HR.
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5 points,7 days ago
I will repeat this one more time: this proposal is meant to affiliate merchants in the first place. We are now working in the transactions.

We are building an ecosystem and all the infrastructure first. If you don't have the merchants people won't have any place to spend their Dash, is as simple as that.

It is just unfair to keep talking about transactions here and even more when we clearly posted a "Strategy for adoption" which you clearly don't want to read or talk about it.

"Majority of your budget 130~ dash is for paying HR", yes people is the one who do the job of going out the streets, convince and teach merchants how to accept Dash. Real people is the biggest asset of Dash Merchant Venezuela. Just like the Dash community is the biggest asset of Dash.

You can have the best technology but without a good team of people it is just a software.
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-5 points,7 days ago
So 2000 merchants and onky 75-100 tx per day with a avg median value of 2$

1500 dash this proposal alone

Big waste of dash.

P.s you have been at this quite sometime maybe its suffice to say its no longer worth the dash.

Also you are intimately aware this is a big waste of funds why else would you be reluctant to provide the anecdotal data.


Voting NO
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-4 points,5 days ago
This project will be the next big mess for the Dash community in VZLA.

1.500 Dash in order to generate transactions worth a couple of hundred dollars... THIS IS LUNACY.
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2 points,7 days ago
I respect your decision and I respect the fact that you maybe don't understand how real adoption of a total new way of payment works in a real country with real users and real businesses.

I did my best to explain you how things works and why is worth it to keep funding this project.

Thanks for your comments and the debate.

AlejandroE
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0 points,7 days ago
@alejandro im confident I do understand, maybe your failing to understand how economics works.

And this project is not financially economical

As such i abhor the waste of dao funds.

We have been spending considerable funds on your various projects big waste!!
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-6 points,7 days ago
@alejandro do you have any idea how much funding you have received from the dao thus far?

Because I can tell you for 75-100 tx per day that your allegedly doing is very low. For the amount of funds poured into this project

And please also answer the median transaction value.

Atter you provide the two peices of info, i will give you a total number of dash/usd you have received thus far.

This project seems like a gravy train

Thank you
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4 points,7 days ago
Hello Realmrhack, we know exactly the amount of founding we have received, and it has been the money needed to do what we have achieved.

The main goal of this proposal was to affiliate merchants and that is exactly what we are doing, it was not meant to have transactions right away. It is easy to judge our work just seeing the number of transactions, which we have stated that it is a low process. Now that we have demostrated we can affiliate merchants, the next step is to incentivize the consumption. This is clearly explained in the "Strategy for adoption" we designed.

Following is a list of our main achievements on this proposal:

1- Over 2000 merchants affiliated on DiscoverDash.com.
2- Not just 2000, inside of those we have affiliated important international and national franchises like: Subway, Papa Jonh's, Remax, Susy's Cookies, Juanchi's Burger, Rostizados, Chip-a-Cookie, Burger Shack, Yayus, etc. Besides, thanks to the influence of our work another big company trust in Dash and our friends from Dash Venezuela affiliated Church's Chicken.
3- Venezuela is the #1 country in terms of Dash adoption thanks to our work.
4- We have developed a unique POS solutions that is installed in almost all our merchants.
5- We just finished the development of our web payments processor.
6- Dash Core Group has stated that Venezuela is their 2nd most important country in its strategy due to the growth of the ecosystem here thanks to our work.
7- We have put the name of Dash in the mainstream media. Following are some of the portal news that have talked about our job: Coindesk, Cointelegraph, Investing.com, Bitcoin.com, Forbes, World Ethereum News, CCN, BusinessWire, BusinessInsider.
8- We have demostrated how regular users can pay with Dash in different of our merchants. Check #VenezuelaPaysWithDash on Youtube. This build social proof and create confidence around Dash.

And I can continue with the list with all the benefits we have brought to Dash with Dash Merchant Venezuela. We are very humble but we know this has been one of the most succesful projects in all Dash history, and this is just thanks to the hard work, transparency and honesty.

I invite you to not just compare the amount of money (acumulated) with the # of transactions, it is junt unfair. Please see the big picture and then tell us if it is worth it to keep funding us.

PS: I remind you that we are asking less money than before, please check that too.

Thanks

AlejandroE
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1 point,7 days ago
Sorry I forgot: The avg amount of the tx is around 2-4 USD. Soon we will share our live tx tracker.
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4 points,9 days ago
where can I learn more about the influencer campaign? If done right this seems like something that can push Dash awareness to the next level in Venezuela
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4 points,9 days ago
Hello mikenewhouse, the influencer campaign was a marketing strategy we designed and executed on Instagram within October-December 2018, and we used 9 top Venezuelan influencers.

Why?
Instagram is the social network that Venezuelan use the most and the influencers are one of the best ways of doing publicity right now because they have millions of followers and people believe them very much, so the results are very positives for the brands (big companies like McDonalds, Pepsi, Wendys are also hiring influencers for their marketing campaigns)

The influencers:
We selected 2 types of influencers: a) Comedians, in order to create "coolness" around the Dash brand. b) Important journalist, in order to create confidence.
The influencers we selected are following:

- Sampins: 417k followers
- LuisAlamo: 273k followers
- AleOtero: 100k followers
- ManuelAngelR: 36,5k followers.
- OlavarrietaLuis: 1.3M followers.
- ShirlyVarnagy: 691k followers.
- Albacmujica: 191k followers
- Rodriguez_Gladys: 316k followers.
- DereckBlanco: 33,1k followers

The results:
- Views: over 700,000
- Likes: over 50,000
- Comments: over 1,000
- Followers: increased from 2,463 to 8,059 followers (+400%)

In conclusion the campaign was a total success and we want to keep doing it this year but with different influencers.

Let us know if you have any other question or comment. Thanks!

AlejandroE
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0 points,8 days ago
That sounds good Alejandroe, but I think you should wait until DCG finally get the dash.org ready for it, hopefully it will be finished some the immense delay of it damaging the potential of you're campaigns
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0 points,9 days ago
Alejandro is there a repository where I can quickly view the videos. This is an exciting development indeed. I'd like very much for us to start moving towards very subtle influencer marketing that normalizes purchasing with Dash. For example an influencer is making a video about there day and they happen to buy something during the video using Dash. They don't make a big deal about it, just keep moving along with their life. The more subtle the better.
Keep up the good work brother.
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2 points,8 days ago
Hello mikenewhouse. Yes, here is a list of some of the videos of the campaign (some of them includes influencers paying stuff with Dash):

Shirly Varnagy: https://www.instagram.com/p/BpstR6yBrhA/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=b0xjdor9nak4

Dereck Blanco: https://www.instagram.com/p/BpF9UmcDS6s/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1vwhw7avxhutt

Alba Cecilia: https://www.instagram.com/p/BrGoYrAFSOZ/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1202cf4h6aub1

Gladys Rodriguez: https://www.instagram.com/p/BqagTXqln_G/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=16e5mpkekhy9t

Ale Otero: https://www.instagram.com/p/BpSpnWfHPwz/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=18h8mcwmhhdq9

Sampins: https://www.instagram.com/p/BpQCUFtBHTt/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=iv9w5lx8l0az

Luis Alamo: https://www.instagram.com/p/BpXwBPFgjo8/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1uassg8ihyknh

I hope they work for you!

Best,
AlejandroE
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0 points,8 days ago
voting YES
Note: About 30,000 Krip phones sold to consumers, of the 66,000 distributed to retailers.
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0 points,8 days ago
Hello Criticalinput, thank you very much for your vote!

Regarding the numbers of Krip sales in the video. It was a mistake from our side, we already edited the video so nobody get confused. Thanks again!

AlejandroE
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-6 points,7 days ago
Anybody familiar with the situation in Venezuela will have a strong reserve to pump 1.500 Dash into a sinking ship. This is outrageous. Voting No.
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1 point,5 days ago
So Mr. Oceanman, since Venezuela is a "sinking ship" you want to abandon them? First off, that's seems pretty cold hearted. But more importantly, Venezuela is the best possible test bed for a cryptocurrency. If anything, we should be pouring MORE resources into Venezuela. If it won't work there, it won't work at all, ever x 100.

We need to do this experiment.

solarguy
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1 point,7 days ago
Please stop with the spamming (+10 comments) in this budget proposal.
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-6 points,8 days ago
This project is highly problematic - VOTING NO. For several reasons: Most obviously, 1.500 Dash is extreme for what is being intended. Anybody familiar with matters in Venezuela knows that the Dash community will not get back anything close to this extreme amount that is being invested.
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2 points,8 days ago
There is nothing extreme or problematic about asking for funding of 265 dash per month, the only extreme thing here are your comments, which are all over the place in this budget proposal.
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1 point,8 days ago
Correction : 295 per month.
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0 points,7 days ago
Thanks for your comment qwizzie. I wish this kind of behaviour could be moderated.
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0 points,7 days ago
Yeah i agree. Luckily this kind of behaviour is pretty shallow and masternode owners can easily see-through it.
Best is not to pay too much attention to them and just let the voting process do its course.
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-5 points,7 days ago
Exactly. You have had the chance to lay out your position. The proposal owner should be banned from constantly meddling into an open discussion between MNOs... 80% of all comments here are from youself.
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-6 points,7 days ago
Please compare other projects and their funding requests. Hardly anybody dares ask 1.500 Dash for the poorest country in the western hemisphere... Are you earning with this ?
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2 points,7 days ago
Dear oceanman, can you please stop spamming this proposal or at least you could write all your comments and ideas in a one single comment

We already answered you with arguments and you still repeat the same things in all your comments.

Thank you.

AlejandroE
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-3 points,7 days ago
Alejandro, I have to conclude you are not very interested in an open and democratic discussion. 80% of all remarks are coming from yourself.
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2 points,7 days ago
I am so sorry for what you are saying and “concluding”. I have answered all your comments with respect and with arguments. But you are so blind in your own hate that you keep attacking me and the proposal.

Everybody can read the comments and see that you are the one being problematic here.

If you don’t want us to submit more proposals for Venezuela submit a Voting proposal asking that to the network and we will do what the network decides.

Meanwhile please stop spamming this proposal.

Thanks.
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-3 points,7 days ago
Alejandro, first of all I am not hating nor your project nor your proposal nor you as a person. I am basically supportive. I suggest reducing the project to 3 months and reduce the monthly funding.

After our past experiences with Venezuelan proposals (which is not your fault...) and the disaster thereafter people just become more cautious.
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0 points,9 days ago
The video has a very big feelgood vibe to it. I am interested in a list things which are not going as planned and a list of KPI's which you are using to measure the effects of your efforts. Business development and sales is my profession so I'm happy to give advice where I can.
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1 point,8 days ago
Hello Undercurrent, thanks for your words and your offer to help us. We are always open to advices, new ideas and challenging questions so if you want to contact us more directly please email me at alejandro@dashmerchant.org.

We will be so happy to listen your ideas and suggestions.

Thanks!
AlejandroE
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-7 points,8 days ago
It definitely has quite a deceptive feelgood vibe... Unfortunately business development in a country where all the businesses are closing down and are leaving the country is NOT an investment case at all.
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-4 points,8 days ago
@alejandroe Quote: ash Merchant Venzueka has enrolled 2057 to date. Including: Subway, Papa Jonhs, Juanchis Burger, Susys Cookies, EFE ice cream, Rostizados, Burger Shack, etc

That doesn't really matter, because these stores are almost closing down in Venezuela as nobody has the money to buy a burger any more. Most of the big chains have already left the country due to ZERO SALES.
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3 points,8 days ago
You are speaking with no bases. I invite you to come to Venezuela and verify what you are saying. And if you say that you have been here and the sales are ZERO then unfortunately you are lying.

There are still businesses in Venezuela. It is a reality that Venezuela has one of its worst economical crisis but you are exagerating. The economy in Venezuela is still moving on and we are helping it to recover.

Meanwhile we will keep working with positivism and optimism because we are the one taking the risk here and we have proved to have success on what we have proposed.

AlejandroE
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-2 points,8 days ago
Well, Alejandro you are tweaking numbers. I will take you with me to a Papa Johns in downtown Caracas and we two are THE ONLY CUSTOMERS of the whole afternoon. Businesses in the country are about to close down. I DON'T SEE WHY THE DASH COMMUNITY SHOULD FUND WORTHLESS COOPERATION AGREEMENTS WITH ZOMBIE COMPANIES.
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-4 points,8 days ago
Quote: Realmrhack - Please come back with no more than 2-3 month proposals.

Exactly. The funding you are asking for is excessive.
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4 points,8 days ago
We are actually asking less than our previous proposals. I kindly invite you to check and do your research before you comment and attack our proposal. We are asking 4.6% of the total budget per month, so we think it is not excessive.

Thanks
AlejandroE
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-3 points,8 days ago
It is excessive and has basically nothing to do with the true price level in Venezuela.
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-5 points,8 days ago
This project is asking for 1.500 Dash !!!
And this in a country where everything is ridiculously cheap due to hyperinflation.

WHY DO MOST OF THE PROJECTS FROM VENEZUELA TRY TO ASK FOR OUTRAGEOUS BUDGETS ???

Particularly considering the poor (if not devastating) track record of recent Venezuela projects we funded. Think for example of the project “Dash Venezuela - Oct 2018 - Feb 2019 - Countrywide massive adoption strategy“ by algodonfranelas (Eugenia) we are currently still funding and which ended up in a toal mess. Check the poor reporting & detailed discussion there. The achievements very ridiculously tiny funded by us with a huge budget. The main achievement of that project were a couple of chicken sales paid with Dash !!! Seriously !!!

If we fund this project with crypto prices going back up now, this team will get flooded with over a million dollars in one of the poorest countries in the western hemisphere. And we have no means of adjusting the funding.

VOTING NO. Project is running too many months. Project is asking for at least 4 times too much money.

Be careful voting for this project, MNOs. And compare what a mess came out of the earlier Venezuela adventures where we lost all the money.
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3 points,8 days ago
Hello oceanman. Regarding your comments:

- Dash Merchant Venezuela has affiliated 80% of the total Venezuelan merchants (over 2000 just like promised since the very begining).
- Dash Merchant Venezuela has always reported its results with all details on: Dash Forum, Discord, Proposals on Dash Central, Videos on Youtube, Twitter and Reddit.
- Dash Merchant Venezuela has demostrated that the "Strategy for Adoption" actually works: a) Get merchants, b) Get Dash into people hands, c) Incentivize consumption.
- Dash Merchant Venezuela is not "Dash Venezuela", the team you are mentioning in your comment is a different team than us. However they are doing an excellent work in their promotion, educational activities, PR and all the other things they are doing.
- Venezuela is not as cheap as you think anymore. During the last 4 months Venezuela has experienced a dramatic increased in cost of living in USD. Data: the index basket (barely to survive) in Venezuela by August 2018 was: 66$. The current index basket (January 2019) is 167$. As you can see the prices in Venezuela have increased 237% in USD. For our calculations to have a "regular" living in Venezuela you must earn at least: 400$. You can also verify on the news and internet.

- The team behind Dash Merchant Venezuela also created Dash Text and Dash Help, which are 2 fundamental projects for the development of the Dash ecosystem.

I think you are not seeing the big picture here and what we have achieved in less than 1 year. We will keep providing value, MNO's has trusted in our work and we have responded with hard work and real results.

Let us know if you have more questions or comments.

Thanks,
AlejandroE
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-4 points,8 days ago
@alejandro if you could kindly provide some information about current usage and median transaction values, for dash merchant vz. ( Merchants you currrntly have enrolled )

A) the number of merchants currently enrolled by dm vz
B) the current tx volume aggregate

And any other information you may feel is pertinent

Thank you
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2 points,8 days ago
Hello again Realmrhack. Regarding to your questions:

- Dash Merchant Venzueka has enrolled 2057 to date. Including: Subway, Papa Jonhs, Juanchis Burger, Susys Cookies, EFE ice cream, Rostizados, Burger Shack, etc (more big franchises to come)
- We are having around 70-100 tx per day. Soon we will remease the Tx Tracker of our POS.

- You can check this campaign we are promoting on Youtube where regular Venezuelans show how they pay with Dash. #VenezuelaPaysWithDash
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoNrgFUS6JyhTrvRwVE1K65g7xrX9VEDX

I hope that works for you. Please let us know if you have other comment or question. Thanks!

AlejandroE
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-4 points,8 days ago
1500 dash over 5 months!!!

Im against any such proposal as it could put the treasury and the PO at unnecessary risk.

In the event dash drops lower in the coming 5 months, they will come back asking for more.

In the event dash goes up its a windfall for this team

Voting NO!
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2 points,8 days ago
Hello Realmrhack.

As we have demostrated in the past, we have never asked for extra funds when the price drops. Neither in Dash Help, Dash Merchant nor Dash Text. We always adjust our costs and scopes, and in that way we don’t have to ask for more funds.

Also in the past, we have stated that if the price goes up we will increased our scope and goals.

We always work with transparency and efficiency.

Thanks for your comments and we really hope you change your votes to YES.

AlejandroE
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0 points,8 days ago
Absolutely. It is just to much and us Dash MNOs we will have no future control to adjust the funding in say 3 or 4 months time to the future price. STAY AWAY.
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0 points,8 days ago
Please come back with no more than 2-3 month proposals.

Thank you
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0 points,8 days ago
Let us shorten the time frame of this project down to no more than three months.
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2 points,9 days ago
100% yes!

I know there has been some criticism of low transactions despite high merchant acceptance. But I would like to say that this is a step by step process and we can't expect immediate high results. We have a long road ahead of us. Dash is moving in the right direction with this.
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3 points,9 days ago
Hello RobbyDash01, thanks for your support!

Regarding the transactions:
There are around 70-100 tx per day (sometimes the count spikes up to 150), this means that there are merchants who haven’t received their first transactions yet. But that is not a real problem, it is something we always thought possible, it is part of our hypothesys and what we need to understand is that ALL those 2500 merchants are willing to accept Dash as a payment method. That is just amazing revolutionary and exciting. It is now a happy problem to solve the consumption issue.

Thanks again for yout support!

AlejandroE
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1 point,9 days ago
Depending on the PoS terminals in use I'm afraid that merchants will repurpose their hardware as there will be no/few transactions. We saw this happening in the RT video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tKvqj3U3O0).

Did you follow up with the particular store keeper?
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4 points,8 days ago
Hello Undercurrent, thanks for your comment and questions. Regarding to the RT video, this was my response on Reddit (this is the link: https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/a96i3y/dash_doesnt_actually_look_like_it_is_being/?st=JQK4IX87&sh=b531a1d7)

“Hello, here Alejandro Echeverria co founder of Dash Merchant, Dash Help and Dash Text.

What we are doing is the adoption of a totally new business concept with changing behaviours of consumers, and that is what some who see this ecosystem don’t understand, they just take one little detail and paint it as a whole thing just because they do not agree on how it “should” be done.

Venezuela has over 2500 merchants accepting Dash, there are around 100-150 tx per day, this means that there are merchants who haven’t received their first transactions yet. But that is not a real problem that is something we always thought possible, it is part of our hypothesys and what we need to understand is that ALL those 2500 merchants are willing to accept Dash (and maybe even other cryptos as well) as a payment method. That is just amazing revolutionary and exciting. It is now a happy problem to solve the consumption issue, and that is why we designed a “Strategy for adoption” which consists in: 1) Get the merchants. 2) Get Dash into people hands and 3) Incentivize the consumption.

Stage 1) is well advanced, now we are working on 2) and 3). This will take time but in 1 year we have achieved a LOT.

Regarding that video in Papa Jonh’s where they couldn’t pay with Dash because the manager wasn’t there, it is possible to have happened. No system is 100% perfect and that is why we out in place a Quality Control team who is in charge of supervising and monitoring the activity of the merchants and in that way we guarantee so that we can work hard to ensure the quality of our work.

We have found that internet connection sometimes could be bad, new employees could have receive a poor training, sometimes the manager is the only in charge of charging in crypto because that is the policy of that merchant. In the other hand there are merchants where ALL the employees are trained, any employee can charge in Dash, sometimes the owner is the only employee and he/she charges directly from the wallet. In summary: each merchant is different and they manage their finances like they want. We just provide the best information/training we can and then make follow ups and keep momentum growing.

In short, we are happy to be at the forefront of crypto adoption in the world, we understand it is an imperfect system as we are learning on the go, and it is something that has never been done before and are working hard to make it happen. We are excited and happy with the work we are doing and always ready to learn from our path…. Keep an eye in Venezuela, 2019 will be amazing.

PS: in this playlist we make a campaign of people paying with Dash in several merchants (Papa Jonh’s included). https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoNrgFUS6JyhTrvRwVE1K65g7xrX9VEDX

Best,
Alejandro Echeverria
Dash Merchant, Dash Help & Dash Text"

I hope that makes sense for you, pleqse let us know if you have other comment or question. Thanks again!

Best,
AlejandroE
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