Proposal “Dash-In-Sudan“ (Closed)Back

Title:Please Downvotes And Help Us To Reimburse Proposal Fee
Owner:Hassna
One-time payment: 71 DASH (12449 USD)
Completed payments: no payments occurred yet (1 month remaining)
Payment start/end: 2019-01-16 / 2019-02-15 (added on 2019-01-04)
Final voting deadline: in passed
Votes: 43 Yes / 433 No / 24 Abstain

Proposal description


Hi All Mnos ,

As You Saw Our Proposal Got Many Criticisms And Downvotes Because We Had Problem With Confirm Identity For one Member Of Our Team


I'm Asking The Mnos To Donate Our Wallet Address To Return Back The Proposal Fee To Submit Other Proposal Next Cycle


XuhtBKyXTADu7VsHU1q9oFqA2DgWHcf3GZ


Thanks




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Discussion: Should we fund this proposal?

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-1 point,4 months ago
Mnos please help us to reimburse the proposal fee by your donate , because @jesccs still need to return to him what he loan to us and also to create new proposal , please help us by donate our address : XuhtBKyXTADu7VsHU1q9oFqA2DgWHcf3GZ
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-1 point,4 months ago
???
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3 points,4 months ago
Hello, It is curious that you ask Dash Community to help you reimburse your Dashcentral fee when you in december came to the Megadashraffle.org team wanting to open a raffle to fundraise your project and ask us to borrow the 0.1 Dash to pay raffle fee with the commitment of return it when it ends. You never return us that fee. Sad for you credibility
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-2 points,4 months ago
Soory because as you saw our proposal didn't pass that's why we can return the fee
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1 point,4 months ago
Maybe its best to reorganise your group, appoint someone else as your team communicator (not with handle "Hassna") , create a new pre-proposal discussion thread on dash/org/forum and basicly start from scratch again. In that new pre-proposal discussion thread you can outline what exactly happened, the changes you made, check with DashWatch the possiblity to keep certain id pictures confidential possibly because of personal risk / to increase their security.

Then and only then you can start thinking about setting up a donation campaign in order to launch a new budget proposal (maybe DashBoost can help with that too)
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0 points,4 months ago
+1
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1 point,5 months ago
Mnos still 3 days , please help us to Return Back The Proposal Fee
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0 points,5 months ago
Your not getting the proposal fee back, thats not how the dao works!!

If you do not understand how the treasury systen works perhaps you could consider doing additional research.
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1 point,4 months ago
We know that

We asking mnos if they can to donate our address to collect the proposal fee
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0 points,5 months ago
Hi All ,

We Are Asking To Return Back The Proposal Fee
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0 points,5 months ago
.. Are you shitting me?

Walter
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1 point,5 months ago
With all our respect we're not shitting , we asked just to reimburse our proposal fee. to submit other proposal next cycle , because this cycle we had many problems....

Idriss
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-1 point,5 months ago
Roflmfao
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0 points,5 months ago
I bet Evan is more than happy to reimburse your proposal fee.
Just ask him, i'm quite sure Evan is eager to help you out in this special, unfortunate case.
No big deal !!!!
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0 points,5 months ago
Any help please ?
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1 point,5 months ago
Hi

I don't know where i can text Evan can you help me
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0 points,5 months ago
??
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1 point,5 months ago
Rofl lmfao
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0 points,5 months ago
hummm So i can say two things
i am agree that arabic girl cant showed her face on Internet, So i had a friend and she told me that but at the end she send me her face and say to not share it and keep it too myself
But why you sent fake verification, So at the beginning why you dont told the DashWatch Team that ? you preferred to lie with a fake verification.
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6 points,5 months ago
If you had been honest about wanting to keep your identity private and you still delivered quality, verifiable work, then I would have considered your proposals. I value privacy too and recognize that everyone's situation is different. But what did you think would happen when you provided false information? MNOs are going to say it's ok that you lied, here's more money?
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2 points,5 months ago
To All Mnos

I'm Idriss Kassim in the video with long hair , Please take 2 minute to read this comment ( I came to explain in details what happened with Hassna )

- Before start i want to tell you we were 3 members in this team , me and Ahmed and Hassna , we posted our first pre proposal in Apr 4, 2018 in dash forum but we couldn't collect all the fee to submit the proposal in dc , After that The team broked up

Note : Me and ahmed we used our real pictures but hassna didn't want to use her real picture to keep her identity private and she used fake picture and here the story start with her .

- Hassna continued work with you as translator but with fake picture as alot of people did and she worked with you for many months but someday @strophy told her to signed contract with DCG + picture of her id , and here she found herself in problem because she was already have picture in discord chat and if she changed the old picture to her real picture she was think will happen problem and she won't become translator so here she continued with the fake picture and continued work with you as arabic translator .

- Now i'll tell you why Hassna she is not kind of members who run with money , after work for many months she submited her first proposal in dashboost and passed and she didn't run with the money and she completed her proposal and also she spent almost 5 or 6 dash for rain to all dash teams and many members in #coffee-bar and #strom and #dash-talk channels after that she submited other proposal in dashboost but didn't pass and She has no more balance in her wallet to submite other proposal with new idea . She created pre proposal in dash forum and she made donate to collect the fee for dc and she collected but again she didn't run with the fee + after she collected all the fee , @CryptoTeller sent to her 2.4 dash so 5 dash + 2.4 = 7.4 dash but she texted him/her and she returned back to him/her 2.4 dash and also here she could keep this 2.4 dash without say anything but she didn't do that , after that she texted me and she told me to work as team and make conferences in sudan , she sent to me the fee and i submited the proposal in dc by her old account , but today she told me what she did with dashwatch , yes i'm agree with all mnos she lied because she couldn't have solution to fix what she did in the past and she's not kind of girl who make her pictures Because her family is very conservative and you know the Arab families . All of this information provided to you is cleared to let you know if she want to run with money she had alot of chances before but she didn't .

- I want to tell all new members don't try to use fake pictures when you join in dash because no one can see what will happen in the future and that what happen with hassna .

- Mnos I am sorry for you on behalf of the team and i hope all these informations change your mind about hassna and i wish to review our proposal again even if you want from us to use escrow .
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16 points,5 months ago
Some concerning revelations have come to light regarding the proposal owner Hassna that Dash Watch feels must be posted publicly to alert MNOs reviewing this proposal. The proposal owner has been extremely deceptive about who they are and has provided some images that are taken from this article https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2855712/Woman-Loujain-Hathloul-bravely-risks-jail-demanding-allowed-drive-car-Saudi-Arabia-border.html and claimed them as her ID.

She has also provided a photoshopped verification image shown here https://imgur.com/a/gymi0TV

The video link posted in a proposal owner comment uses footage taken from https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC58hbpRIoJQrjTgpGUsXfxg
These videos are eight months old and were used to make found in the comment section posted by the PO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfoYDA-t3Vc

Although a proposal owners real ID is not required to submit and complete a successful proposal the deceptive nature and continued lies when questioned are a serious red flag and could be relevant to the outcomes of this proposal. Dash Watch
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0 points,5 months ago
To All Mnos

I'm Idriss Kassim in the video with long hair , Please take 2 minute to read this comment ( I came to explain in details what happened with Hassna )

- Before start i want to tell you we were 3 members in this team , me and Ahmed and Hassna , we posted our first pre proposal in Apr 4, 2018 in dash forum but we couldn't collect all the fee to submit the proposal in dc , After that The team broked up

Note : Me and ahmed we used our real pictures but hassna didn't want to use her real picture to keep her identity private and she used fake picture and here the story start with her .

- Hassna continued work with you as translator but with fake picture as alot of people did and she worked with you for many months but someday @strophy told her to signed contract with DCG + picture of her id , and here she found herself in problem because she was already have picture in discord chat and if she changed the old picture to her real picture she was think will happen problem and she won't become translator so here she continued with the fake picture and continued work with you as arabic translator .

- Now i'll tell you why Hassna she is not kind of members who run with money , after work for many months she submited her first proposal in dashboost and passed and she didn't run with the money and she completed her proposal and also she spent almost 5 or 6 dash for rain to all dash teams and many members in #coffee-bar and #strom and #dash-talk channels after that she submited other proposal in dashboost but didn't pass and She has no more balance in her wallet to submite other proposal with new idea . She created pre proposal in dash forum and she made donate to collect the fee for dc and she collected but again she didn't run with the fee + after she collected all the fee , @CryptoTeller sent to her 2.4 dash so 5 dash + 2.4 = 7.4 dash but she texted him/her and she returned back to him/her 2.4 dash and also here she could keep this 2.4 dash without say anything but she didn't do that , after that she texted me and she told me to work as team and make conferences in sudan , she sent to me the fee and i submited the proposal in dc by her old account , but today she told me what she did with dashwatch , yes i'm agree with all mnos she lied because she couldn't have solution to fix what she did in the past and she's not kind of girl who make her pictures Because her family is very conservative and you know the Arab families . All of this information provided to you is cleared to let you know if she want to run with money she had alot of chances before but she didn't .

- I want to tell all new members don't try to use fake pictures when you join in dash because no one can see what will happen in the future and that what happen with hassna .

- Mnos I am sorry for you on behalf of the team and i hope all these informations change your mind about hassna and i wish to review our proposal again even if you want from us to use escrow .
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-9 points,5 months ago
I wrote in my proposal this is old video of my team .

I think thz crypto it's privacy , all ppl don't use their pics of share their informations .

You judge me because i don't want to share my information , i shared information of my team i think that's good but

All my work with dash you forget it ? And i become scammer now


Why i didn't run with my last proposal funded ?

By the way thanks for your comment and i hope to do that with all proposals owners .

Thanks
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-2 points,5 months ago
To All Mnos

I'm Idriss Kassim in the video with long hair , Please take 2 minute to read this comment ( I came to explain in details what happened with Hassna )

- Before start i want to tell you we were 3 members in this team , me and Ahmed and Hassna , we posted our first pre proposal in Apr 4, 2018 in dash forum but we couldn't collect all the fee to submit the proposal in dc , After that The team broked up

Note : Me and ahmed we used our real pictures but hassna didn't want to use her real picture to keep her identity private and she used fake picture and here the story start with her .

- Hassna continued work with you as translator but with fake picture as alot of people did and she worked with you for many months but someday @strophy told her to signed contract with DCG + picture of her id , and here she found herself in problem because she was already have picture in discord chat and if she changed the old picture to her real picture she was think will happen problem and she won't become translator so here she continued with the fake picture and continued work with you as arabic translator .

- Now i'll tell you why Hassna she is not kind of members who run with money , after work for many months she submited her first proposal in dashboost and passed and she didn't run with the money and she completed her proposal and also she spent almost 5 or 6 dash for rain to all dash teams and many members in #coffee-bar and #strom and #dash-talk channels after that she submited other proposal in dashboost but didn't pass and She has no more balance in her wallet to submite other proposal with new idea . She created pre proposal in dash forum and she made donate to collect the fee for dc and she collected but again she didn't run with the fee + after she collected all the fee , @CryptoTeller sent to her 2.4 dash so 5 dash + 2.4 = 7.4 dash but she texted him/her and she returned back to him/her 2.4 dash and also here she could keep this 2.4 dash without say anything but she didn't do that , after that she texted me and she told me to work as team and make conferences in sudan , she sent to me the fee and i submited the proposal in dc by her old account , but today she told me what she did with dashwatch , yes i'm agree with all mnos she lied because she couldn't have solution to fix what she did in the past and she's not kind of girl who make her pictures Because her family is very conservative and you know the Arab families . All of this information provided to you is cleared to let you know if she want to run with money she had alot of chances before but she didn't .

- I want to tell all new members don't try to use fake pictures when you join in dash because no one can see what will happen in the future and that what happen with hassna .

- Mnos I am sorry for you on behalf of the team and i hope all these informations change your mind about hassna and i wish to review our proposal again even if you want from us to use escrow .
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1 point,5 months ago
To All Mnos

I'm Idriss Kassim in the video with long hair , Please take 2 minute to read this comment ( I came to explain in details what happened with Hassna )

- Before start i want to tell you we were 3 members in this team , me and Ahmed and Hassna , we posted our first pre proposal in Apr 4, 2018 in dash forum but we couldn't collect all the fee to submit the proposal in dc , After that The team broked up

Note : Me and ahmed we used our real pictures but hassna didn't want to use her real picture to keep her identity private and she used fake picture and here the story start with her .

- Hassna continued work with you as translator but with fake picture as alot of people did and she worked with you for many months but someday @strophy told her to signed contract with DCG + picture of her id , and here she found herself in problem because she was already have picture in discord chat and if she changed the old picture to her real picture she was think will happen problem and she won't become translator so here she continued with the fake picture and continued work with you as arabic translator .

- Now i'll tell you why Hassna she is not kind of members who run with money , after work for many months she submited her first proposal in dashboost and passed and she didn't run with the money and she completed her proposal and also she spent almost 5 or 6 dash for rain to all dash teams and many members in #coffee-bar and #strom and #dash-talk channels after that she submited other proposal in dashboost but didn't pass and She has no more balance in her wallet to submite other proposal with new idea . She created pre proposal in dash forum and she made donate to collect the fee for dc and she collected but again she didn't run with the fee + after she collected all the fee , @CryptoTeller sent to her 2.4 dash so 5 dash + 2.4 = 7.4 dash but she texted him/her and she returned back to him/her 2.4 dash and also here she could keep this 2.4 dash without say anything but she didn't do that , after that she texted me and she told me to work as team and make conferences in sudan , she sent to me the fee and i submited the proposal in dc by her old account , but today she told me what she did with dashwatch , yes i'm agree with all mnos she lied because she couldn't have solution to fix what she did in the past and she's not kind of girl who make her pictures Because her family is very conservative and you know the Arab families . All of this information provided to you is cleared to let you know if she want to run with money she had alot of chances before but she didn't .

- I want to tell all new members don't try to use fake pictures when you join in dash because no one can see what will happen in the future and that what happen with hassna .

- Mnos I am sorry for you on behalf of the team and i hope all these informations change your mind about hassna and i wish to review our proposal again even if you want from us to use escrow .
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1 point,5 months ago
The comment is claiming to be written by Idriss---> Note: we have NO video proof from Idriss that he did write this comment : )
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1 point,5 months ago
a)<and here she found herself in problem because she was already have picture in discord chat and if she changed the old picture to her real picture she was think will happen problem and she won't become translator so here she continued with the fake picture and continued work with you as arabic translator .>
perspective: She used a photo of a arabic womens' rights celebrity. Would be no problem at all in the community to go from a celebrity's photo to her real photo : )

b)<she's not kind of girl who make her pictures > --> This is another BIG lie? : )

The real Hasna's photo is already public with the team with Idriss and Ahmed at the april 2018 Tunisia team Dashforum post: (https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/pre-proposal-two-conferences-in-tunisia.35165/)
And there is another photo of her at the Tunisia teams' website: http://dashac.dx.am/
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0 points,5 months ago
Presently nobody in the Dash-community has video-called with the proposal owner(s)
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9 points,5 months ago
That pretty face "Hassna" has no existence whatsoever, except in hastily photoshopped selfies. Another scammer from that part of the world. Will be downvoting any proposal by "her" from now on.
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-7 points,5 months ago
All my work with dash you forget it ?

because i don't want to share more information about me i become scammer ?

Why i didn't run with my last proposal funded ?

You should to know different bettwen someone can't share something and scammer
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7 points,5 months ago
Are you joking? You're lying to us by providing blatantly false info, and you'd like us to act like nothing happened? First learn to make correctly faked selfies, at least. Then (much harder) learn to tell the truth.
Notably, I'm eager to read some independant audit about the quality of your Arabic translation of the official Dash Docs. I would not be too surprised if your work happens to be a steaming pile of shit directly pasted from Google Translate. We had some similar cases before.
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7 points,5 months ago
I think we should pull the Arabic translation until it has been verified to be of production quality. We cant risk ruining our reputation to Arabic speaking users.
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8 points,5 months ago
I urge all MNO's to vote no.

Why? Hassna does not exist. 'She' has (ab)used images of activist Loujain Hatloul found in this article: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2855712/Woman-Loujain-Hathloul-bravely-risks-jail-demanding-allowed-drive-car-Saudi-Arabia-border.html to try and extract funding for several proposals. Besides this the Arabic translation provided by her is said to be of 'Google translate' quality and photoshopped images were provided to the MNO's when we asked for proof of identity.

I have no faith in this proposal, neither should any other MNO. Please join the Dash Nation Discord chat if you arent already there so we can weed out these cash grab attempts now and in the future.
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2 points,5 months ago
voting NO.

" She has also provided a photoshopped verification image shown here https://imgur.com/a/gymi0TV " - DashWatch.
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0 points,5 months ago
Thanks to all of mnos who supported me
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-1 point,5 months ago
Thanks to all of you for your comments .
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4 points,5 months ago
re:authorization how confident are you that you can host these events at the universities? Please explain.
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-2 points,5 months ago
Hi , that's good question

i'll take authorization from technology universities administration by
Rent big place that allows a large number of members to be present.

technology universities they will be happy to see that in their universities because #1 dash will become new technology to them and they will be happy to see new technology in their universities and also they will get publicity , #2 not all people can host like this conferences because they need money to do that , #3 Sudan it's second Highest Inflation Country In The World List , #4 i choosed the biggest cities in sudan .

Thanks for your comment.
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0 points,5 months ago
I will not support this proposal unless you can record yourself presenting yourself and your proposal on video. Thanks for your understanding!
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-3 points,5 months ago
Hi Again ,

My team recorded video and we did update .

Thanks .
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2 points,5 months ago
Hello, that's a great start, but I meant that I would like to see yourself in a video.
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-5 points,5 months ago
Hi , again

Really just to get the trust of all mnos i talked with my team to record this quick video to see my team .

The important reasons for why i can't record video or make video conversation ,

#1 I don't want to be tracked by governments

#2 Men in video or cam in arab country it's okey but women not ....

I hope you understand me
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-5 points,5 months ago
You'll ask why i can be on conferences videos but not in simple video because

The conferences it's something different Then talking with mysself in front camera , The conferences will have Authorization so here i can be on the videos
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-5 points,5 months ago
i respected your vote , thanks to you .
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4 points,5 months ago
I think this is a well intentioned proposal, however we have just denied funding for all Africa proposals next year. Why would we be cutting teams off who have shown to deliver, but pass this one? Going to Abstain.
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4 points,5 months ago
There's been talk that there was enough funds leftover in Dec cycle to support Nigeria and Ghana requests : )
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-4 points,5 months ago
Hi ,

Yes i see that but i think they didn't get funded
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3 points,5 months ago
b) per tradingeconomics site Ghana inflation rate 9.9% yearly per, Nigeria 11.28
% yearly, Sudan 68.94%. And theory that the higher the inflation rate, the more consumers' brains are interested to switch to a new currency-product : )
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-3 points,5 months ago
Hi

Sudan not counted in Africa , it's in the middle east and arabic country and also it's the second Highest Inflation Country In The World List after venezuela , this proposal will focus to teach the people and the important thing is Helping attendees how can setup a Dash Sudan team, and continue the work of promoting Dash .

If we checked dash network doesn't have proposals from middle east that's why i'm sure will be good start to see alot of members and proposals from middle east .

I hope from Mnos to take look again for dash future in the middle east

Thanks
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3 points,5 months ago
Sudan is in Africa. This is the middle east https://www.climatestotravel.com/images/maps/continents/Middle-East.jpg

Sudan is an Arabic speaking country, just like all the north African speaking countries.

To be clear, I like your proposal. I just will be abstaining (not doing it right now, because of anonymity reasons).
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-1 point,5 months ago
I'm happy to hear you liked my proposal , and i respect your vote , thanks to you .
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-2 points,5 months ago
Hi Mnos ,

My team recorded video and we did update for some informations , i hope to take look again for this proposal ,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfoYDA-t3Vc

Thanks .
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6 points,5 months ago
Speaking for myself, but I don’t see Hassna in this video. I’ve heard your reason you posted on Discord: You are not in Tunisia, but I will need to see Hassna in a video to ease my mind about the authenticity of this proposal. Too many scams happening in this space to take your explanation at face-value.

Please provide a video to ascertain whether Hassna we know and have a picture of in Discord is actually a person, and involved in this proposal. Thanks.
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0 points,5 months ago
Someone posted in Discord: <an even simplier solution is for her to sign one of her microproposals and her treasury proposal with the same private key
I can understand not wanting to appear on video but verification of private pgp key ownership should be trivial>
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-3 points,5 months ago
Hi @tao

That's strange thing i hear from you , it's not my first proposal with dash network and also you saw all my work etc....
And yes i'm not with my team because i'm not next to them and it's not important to be or to recorde other video by self and explain all that again , that's won't change nothing , i told my team to recorde this video just to let mno's see my team , note there are alot of proposals don't use video and they pass , i'm happy to see your comment , thanks .
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-3 points,5 months ago
I think you saw i get funded 15 dash and i completed my proposal , you can ask @strophy ,

I'm agree with you in just one point there many scams ppl and even if they recorde video they can run with the money , i hope to think again what i did and how much i lose in rain etc...
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5 points,5 months ago
To me it’s important to know who it is we are dealing with. It’s important for the network to be able to identify and trust who is being represented as the proposal owner, IMO.

I will not be voting for this proposal until I see Hassna appear in a video to corroborate this plan. It’s a pretty simple request. If you are truly a woman named Hassna as pictured on Discord, it should be easy for you to record a quick video and share.
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-3 points,5 months ago
I understand all what said , but the owner of this proposal is idriss who in the video , but i told them to use my name , because i'm the only in the team who worked before with dash , two person in video they are the team , it's not important to be all the team

I respect your vote , and thanks to you again , i hope to pass to let dash nation rain again as i did before
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-3 points,5 months ago
The important reasons for why i can't record video or make video conversation ,

#1 I don't want to be tracked by governments

#2 Men in video or cam in arab country it's okey but women not ....

I hope you understand me
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4 points,5 months ago
Sorry, not buying it. Voting NO.
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-2 points,5 months ago
Thanks for your vote
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-4 points,5 months ago
You'll ask why i can be on conferences videos but not in simple video because

The conferences it's something different Then talking with mysself in front camera , The conferences will have Authorization so here i can be on the videos
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-3 points,5 months ago
Hassna has been a great asset for the DASH community she has succesfully done many micro proposals with a great deal of success. I think that is important to support people that do a good job and hold a good track record. I want to appeal to masternodes to approve this proposal.
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-2 points,5 months ago
Hi @Jza

I'm very happy to hear that from you , and even if our proposal doesn't pass we'll stay dashy , maybe you saw what happen in my last proposal in dashboost but even that i won't give up .

Thanks for your support and i hope mno's to take look again , thanks to all of you .
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-1 point,5 months ago
This is a good value proposition for the network.

Looking through the list of nations by national inflation rates you see two problematic blocks geographically, one in Latin America (where our target focus is at the moment) and a second in north-east Africa (though you could likely extend this to most of Africa). I see this as planting the seed for something in this second region to be built upon in the years ahead (and upon learning from developments in latam).

In the early days of starting something like this you need to focus on technologists, entrepraneurs and activists so running the conferences at universities is the way to go.

The person running the proposal has delivered on projects before. Seems like something we should get behind.
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-1 point,5 months ago
Yes Sudan will be good start for Dash network in the middle east.

Thanks for your support.
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0 points,5 months ago
Have you done any meetups/presentations or anything like this before?

If not here is a good place to get your start...

Dash Force Meetup & Presentation Program:
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/dashforce-meetup-presentation-program.12802/
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2 points,5 months ago
Yes i did before working with dash core as translator you can ask @strophy

And also i did some conferences in tunisia
Without support from dash

https://mobile.twitter.com/ArabConferences/status/983843970492063745

Bur i saw In tunisia my has low inflation that's why i choose sudan secand inflation in the world list . Thanks
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-3 points,5 months ago
I'll be voting yes on this.

The proposal appears to be very well laid out. Great work.

Hassna seems to be all about the community for quite some time and I think a one time payment of 71 Dash is appropriate and great opportunity for the network to invite new talent.
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-2 points,5 months ago
Thanks for you support
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2 points,5 months ago
In light of new information brought forward by DashWatch I will have to change my vote to no.
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