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DCG is the heart of our project. I'm in total support.

@QE
Even though this proposal may ultimately get approved, i´d like to hope it will be a wake-up call, but i am sure it will be dismissed, as always.
Over the last months, a growing number of MNO have expressed their discontent, how DCG handles funds and on what the funds are spent on.
Intransparency and clinging to secrecy doesn´t help to foster trust, nor does hiding behind garbage legislation from some backward retard countries.
Publish all the salaries, make every DCG employee agree to it and sign a form of consent that their salary will be shared with their employers (the MNO), who refuses send them to the desert, replace them and move on.
Many of us are sick and tired of this hiding & secrecy bullshit.
This should be illegal and is highly immoral against all of the MNO who are largely funding it all, and with some lame excuses are continuously told to shut up and pay/approve.

Also you show zero willingness to ever change how DCG handles funds and what DCG spends funds on.
Even considering trying something else is completely unimaginable and even outrageous to you.
Spending like 100% on devs for the past 8 years resulted in what exactly?
Dash price is at the near bottom!
Like others have demanded as well, how about trying something else, if we want to see better results?
Continuing spending 100% of DCG funds on devs is both unreasonable and irresponsible at this point.
It is utter stubbornness.
If at least half of DCG funds would be spent on Marketing that actually helps Dash price performance, this voting would be very differently.
But no, DCG wants to continue for the next 8 years just like the past 8 years have been.
Circle jerking to ever new technical gimmicks that will get this project back at the top. Yawn.
First it was usernames, then it was DApps, now its tokens, the hopium bullshit never stops.
WHAT USELESS GIMMICK NEXT, THAT WILL BE THE GAME-CHANGER ????

The ask is way too high for what is being done and delivered.
Nobody really understands where all this money is going, a huge mystery for most of the MNO who are no DCG insiders.
For sure, its not deserved whereever it ends up.
As the budget is being turned into a racket, like all rackets it will eventually dry up someday.

DCG should also primarily focus on Dash price performance, and only secondary on development.
Focusing on technical development has brought this project to the brink of ruin and insolvency.
Time to learn from the past, accept the truth, and start CHANGING because only change will improve results.

The Dash Core Group operated under this funding model for many years. We saw no effectiveness. We only saw a ton of problems. My vote is NO.

How do you measure effectiveness?

In terms of releases?

For Platform -> There have been 10 releases of Platform since it's inception about 16 months ago. That's about a release less than every two months. What would you want better there?
For Core -> 2 or so releases per year.
For Mobile -> We had 1 dev. We are in the process of hiring more. Is this not what you want? If your idea is, mobile is bad, we should fire the devs there. Well there is only one left and imo he has done very well considering he is the only one. The strategy that we are employing with one Rust SDK and sub SDKs will work. We hired Dustinface back about a month ago, and now we also hired Borja to help. Look at all the work going on here: https://github.com/dashpay/rust-dashcore/pulls

So for effectiveness, we seem to be extremely effective with the given budget. Which I might remind you is much lower than most other projects.

Through a lot of effort we have devs that understand the mission and that don't need their hands held. This means less management costs.

The biggest sore spot that DCG has is mobile right now. We will fix it. But I don't see how you can say that as a whole we are not effective.

If you'd listened to me and started separating dash-projects even a little bit (even gradually), I'd have come back to your side. But now, NO.

I've supported your work for many years. I defended DSG from attacks, just as others are defending you now. The time will come when others will also understand that what you're doing is leading the entire project into the abyss. The product you're creating (platform) is an unprofessional hodgepodge, made up of a multitude of hacks (not a business-oriented product). I'm sure a virtual machine will never happen. You'll find plenty of excuses not to build one, because in its current form, it simply can't be squeezed into the platform.

I have a feeling you'll soon say "sorry, it didn't work out" and stop working on the Dash project. Moreover, you'll find someone to blame. And the community will be left feeling robbed.

I wrote my ideas in a proposal: https://www.dashcentral.org/p/DAO-treasury2
We communicated in the comments...

Now:
I want to see how much each product you make costs.
I want deadlines met.
I want DCG to talk about problems.
I want there to be no lies.
I want the platform to be a working product (platform now is a child's play. It's impossible to work with the platform).

I've been with this project for 10 years, forgone compensation when things were bad, if I didn't leave when things were horrible, why would I leave when things are great?

Right now DCG has a reserve again, we have Kevin back, Ivan back. Platform has been up for more than 99% of the time since it started, the code works beautifully.

Remember when people said we would never release Platform -> We did.
Remember when people said we would never have withdrawals -> We got those working.
Remember when people said we would never have a JS SDK -> We have a JS SDK.

I will include in Platform a VM, there's just a lot that needs to be built before then.

As I said already:
Currently Core is costing us around 30%, Platform 28%, Mobile 26%, and Infra about 16%.

Deadlines can only exist when there is redundancy. You put two teams on a project, one finishes and you give a deadline to the other team. If they meet the deadline then you can compare both solutions, if they don't then you go with the solution that delivered. This is how big companies do things, they have multiple teams working on the same thing. We sadly don't have that luxury. I only give estimated dates to our community, never deadlines, because things are going at the speed they can go. A dev who works 12 hours in a day and doesn't finish the work that was harder than expected. What do you do? Fire him and get someone else who will only understand the project in 6 months?

If you want DCG to talk about problems, maybe it's because you want there to be problems. Currently our biggest problem is the fact that people like yourself have unrealistic expectations based on our team size.

I have never lied intentionally.

You say you want Platform to be a working product, but it's impossible to work with. We have very few who have tried so far. Have you tried? I built https://evo-sdk.dash.org/ to show that things work. I agree that there are a lot of things to improve. And that's why there's no VM yet. DCG needs to improve things first. And we are.

Voting YES, the team is working better than ever and bearing fruit. Almost all the fat has been cut and we are seeing releases from Core, Mobile and Platform teams consistently.

Voting NO

I would like to see a transparent cost system and payment upon completion of work, as described in this proposal :

https://www.dashcentral.org/p/DAO-treasury2

That proposal did not pass. Furthermore revealing compensation of individual team members is either illegal, immoral or against their wishes.

As I said already:
Currently Core is costing us around 30%, Platform 28%, Mobile 26%, and Infra about 16%.

Included in the Core 30% is work that Dustinface is doing for Dash SPV.

The mobile cost is the cost after we fill the currently 1 open position.