Proposal “DASH_FORCE“ (Active)Back

Title:Dash Force: September - November
Owner:Mastermined
Monthly amount: 200 DASH (70030 USD)
Completed payments: 1 totaling in 200 DASH (2 month remaining)
Payment start/end: 2017-08-19 / 2017-11-16 (added on 2017-08-17)
Votes: 891 Yes / 123 No / 1 Abstain
Will be funded: Yes
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Proposal description

Dash Force: September - November
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/dash-force.11208/page-2#post-136249


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2 points,11 days ago
DASH FORCE NEWS \o/\o/ RULEZ ^^ Our forefront against trolls and haters
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0 points,9 days ago
Was fighting trolls today!
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1 point,11 days ago
Yes sir!
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2 points,23 days ago
Looks like our 3rd and final down voting mini whale finally showed up. I was wondering where they were. Most of our downvotes come from 3 smaller whales who combined have around 108 votes.
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2 points,27 days ago
You got my support, may the (Dash) Force be with you
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1 point,26 days ago
Thanks a bunch! We will keep trying to impress the masternode owners.
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1 point,27 days ago
Thanks for your support again qwizzie!
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6 points,1 month ago
You guys are really *the force of Dash* :)
Thanks for all you do, and especially thanks for your help with the #womenofdash channel.
I love all the super well written articles (I think I actually read every single one ;)) Thank you also for being open and approachable for new ideas and suggestions. It is visible that you all work tirelessly on / for the wellbeing of Dash and the whole community.
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2 points,1 month ago
Thanks for your support! I have a new project I think you will be very interested in, we'll skype later this week.
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1 point,1 month ago
We do what we can, and will do more. Thanks again!
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5 points,1 month ago
I hope it's not bad form for a proposal owner to comment on another proposal?

We all see the amazing content Dash Force News creates every day and sometimes hourly. We see the released and polished final product resulting from many hours of effort and hard work. I have worked with Dash Force News on several stories, interviews and general exchange of information. DFN has never disappointed in their efforts and delivery.

Good Luck DFN,

Scott
@dashracer
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3 points,1 month ago
Everyone is free to comment. As you know I was a big supporter of your proposal as well and continue to be impressed with all the new extra stuff you bring to the table. Under promise, over deliver!

Thanks again for your support
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2 points,1 month ago
Coming from Dash's hardest worker bee outside of Core, that' s a tall compliment, thanks!
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1 point,1 month ago
I call it how I see it ;)
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3 points,1 month ago
I like your work. Voted Yes.
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2 points,1 month ago
Cheers
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1 point,1 month ago
Thanks muchly!
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3 points,1 month ago
Thanks to all masternode owners for their votes so far. I want to add that we have some big things planned for the rest of this year, including expanding video content beyond the weekly recap and the Three Amigos to include regular interviews with industry heavy-hitters, regular appearances on other media networks, and possibly a new show coming soon. In addition, we're expanding DiscoverDash to include how-to guides for merchants and users (including videos) to make the site a one-stop shop for anyone seeking to get into Dash, in addition to the nearly 300 Dash-accepting businesses around the world we've listed so far. Finally,we are lining up in-person conference speaking appearances all around the world for our team to take Dash to new audiences.

Thanks again for your support! We'll be the last team to let you down, trust me. :)
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13 points,1 month ago
Day in, and day out, you guys produce content that is important for existing Dash users/holders to see. My definition of the niche you specialize in is 'internal marketing' - maintaining interest and disseminating information to those already engaged in Dash, likely decreasing user attrition. Mark's weekly recap and Joe Moraca's proposal reviews/research have particular value. Voting yes.
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4 points,1 month ago
Thanks for your support, let me know if you happen across anything you would like to collaborate on.
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2 points,1 month ago
Thanks very much. We're about to start taking it to a far wider audience as well, without losing our main focus.
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4 points,1 month ago
Very effective use of funds, voting yes.
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2 points,1 month ago
We're still improving, thanks!
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5 points,1 month ago
Supporting, keep up the good work!
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2 points,1 month ago
Thank you kindly!
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-8 points,1 month ago
id support these guys if they actually tried to improve. theyre getting comfy and think that article shit is somehow worth what theyre sapping out.
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2 points,29 days ago
@joeblowwhoknows I don't read the comments on every thread it's true but I can't recall a single comment from you here that hasn't been rude and belligerent. I suppose if that was MY chosen style of interaction with other people I probably wouldn't give a damn about some random stranger such as me pointing this out - heck I may even find it gratifying - but nonetheless your behaviour here is routinely objectionable.
I'm telling you this just in case you are unaware. It is possible to disagree without being rude, why not give it a try today?
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7 points,1 month ago
Perhaps you haven't been paying close enough attention, but I have seen improvements in both the quality and quantity of their content over the last few months.

Everyone has different taste, so they may not be your cup of tea, but they are making an honest effort and filling an information gap. Right now, they are an excellent use of the Dash budget.
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3 points,1 month ago
How many people are working full time for DashForce? How many people are working part time? How many websites are you currently supporting with your efforts? I know of two, dashforcenews.com and discoverdash.com. The funds requested will cover from September through November? I think the answers to these questions will help me and others to evaluate the proposal better. Thanks!
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4 points,1 month ago
I believe all your questions are answered in the provided link:
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/dash-force.11208/page-2#post-136249
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5 points,1 month ago
Yes indeed, thank you
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3 points,1 month ago
Thanks jimbursch. The point of my question was to focus on the actual proposal and all that it offers and not on the disparaging comments.
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1 point,1 month ago
Very good of you, thanks. When judged on merit and deliverables, we have nothing to hide, and love focusing on all the exciting project's we're running.
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9 points,1 month ago
Some of the comments listed here have been impulsive outbursts that lack professionalism and credibility. As Masternode owners, you have been smart enough to secure an important and rewarding role in a cryptocurrency with enormous potential. MNOs are essentially the board of directors of what is now a $2,000,000,000 company. Dash has one of the strongest communities of all cryptocurrencies, please don't poison that spirit with distasteful words. I value everyone's opinion, however we should come to the boardroom (Dash Central) maintaining a high professional standard. Any concerns at all can be raised with a much greater outcome by doing so intellectually.
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1 point,1 month ago
The Board of a $2bn company are focussed and professional because they are appointed and paid to be so by the shareholders. The shareholders, on the other hand, are frequently a dishevelled rabble that shout abuse from the back of the meetings and have to be ejected. Obviously the mn holders are shareholders, not Board members. But for some reason we have seen fit to appoint a Board of 4000 shareholders. An unusual choice.
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5 points,1 month ago
Another thing to add is that there is currently no way to prove that any comment on Dash Central is actually from a verified MN. So take dummy spits with a grain of salt until something changes there.
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-9 points,1 month ago
comments can be rude, but whats unprofessional is raping the dash budget for $60000 per month. its on par with any government corruption. $10000 per month, maybe.

theres a reason brian freeman wont tell anyone his salary. its $300,000 per year now or more off this shit
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6 points,1 month ago
"brian freeman wont tell anyone his salary. its $300,000 per year"

I wish. Our salaries are based off of core team averages and other proposal projects. There are other proposal projects out there that do less than Dash Force but get paid more, people seem to be happy funding those projects, myself included.
I work for the "minimum" amount my time is worth, any less and it would simply not be worth working as much as I do.
Dash Force Core team members work 7 days a week, no less than 50 hours.
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2 points,1 month ago
Yes, I remember in the early days we tried to take turns taking a weekend off. Hasn't happened lately, too much going on! We're always on call, and make sure we earn the money.
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6 points,1 month ago
Prime example.
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10 points,1 month ago
While more money than I would normally expect, I think they are doing a great job and deserve this funding. Yes from me.
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3 points,1 month ago
It's a risk management assessment. When choosing to be paid in Dash for months at a time, sometimes the price can tank, making covering expenses difficult. When it goes up, we save for new projects and unforeseen circumstances.

Thanks for your support, it means a lot to us, and we will continue to work as hard as we can to earn every last duff of the budget, and then some.
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5 points,1 month ago
I love their work. Just overall good project!:)
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8 points,1 month ago
Thanks man. Depending on what the price does I think we will have enough rollover to skip the December proposal cycle and use up most of our reserves like core has been doing the last couple of months. Better to have a bit extra than not enough, we will spend it wisely as always. I just got a new trezor so all extra funds will be nice and secure.
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-7 points,1 month ago
how generous
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-10 points,1 month ago
more money than anyone would normally expect. do you know how hard it would be to come up with an actual company that made $60000 per month?? This is such a fucking rip off. wake the fuck up people. brian freeman is a parasite. dashforce is a private company and should fund themselves
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5 points,1 month ago
Hi joeblowwhoknows -- you are using a $300 price. That was not the price at the time the proposal was submitted -- please be fair in your judgement and the numbers.

Dash Force does not accept advertising or subscriptions. They are operating like a not-for-profit service to the Dash community.

I would encourage you to refrain from personal attacks and base your criticism on accurate data and evidence.
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2 points,1 month ago
Express your opinion freely. Different viewpoints are the key to avoiding bad decisions made in an echo chamber. I would note that vulgarity and personal attacks will only cause you to have less influence. Finest regards, solarguy
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1 point,1 month ago
Before commenting, I'd like to report some initial confusion -- Mastermined, you'd reported on Reddit that Mark Mason's 'Dash News Weekly Recap' was in no way funded by DashForce. But here in this pitch, you're now claiming that the show does indeed fall under the DashForce banner.

So... which is it?
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6 points,1 month ago
His new equipment and software for the show was not funded with Dash Force funds. If he sends me a receipt I would be happy to reimburse him though.

I'm now considering it to be part of Dash Force but I guess it could go either way. It started off as a smaller personal side project but has grown into something bigger, better and more time consuming.
I'll ask mark to clarify.
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4 points,1 month ago
Yes, Brian is correct
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7 points,1 month ago
When I get up and when I go to bed bed I alway's look at Dashforcenews if there is something new to see so easy yes votes for me.
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0 points,1 month ago
Very kind of you, thanks. We're improving still.
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4 points,1 month ago
Thanks for your support! That was the plan from the beginning, a one stop shop for the important Dash news of the day.
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-10 points,1 month ago
also, how the hell did the dashforcenews logo get on the dashair jet? that wasn't the fucking deal. we didnt pay farnsworth $300,000 to advertise brian freemans private dashforcenews. there's something really fucked up shit going on here. wake the fuck up, assholes
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4 points,1 month ago
Calling masternode owners assholes is not a good way to get your point across to masternode owners.
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0 points,29 days ago
This seems a pretty intuitive point but I suppose it is lost on some people!
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5 points,1 month ago
That's a question you should ask Scott Farnsworth.

If anything, this is an example of good marketing on the part of DashForceNews -- a value-add to this proposal.
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4 points,1 month ago
Hi, will vote yes because Dash Force is doing a fantastic job. Please fix the link above as it doesn't connect to any proposal information... http://www.dashcentral.org/p/DASH_FORCE

Thanks!
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5 points,1 month ago
Thank you sir, I've been having lots of issues with Dash Central this time. Editing large proposals is always tricky here but this time it won't let me copy and paste my proposal for some reason.

Official Dash Forum Direct Link
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/dash-force.11208/page-2#post-136249
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6 points,1 month ago
I also have errors in dash central. It always tells me "please vote with 1 masternode" even after I have voted. It needs a bit of work I think.
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-8 points,1 month ago
fantastic is a stretch. how about using half this fat ass monthly amount to, i don't know, actually give away to new users? or maybe buy ads on other websites, or actually bring new users to dash instead of just jerking eachother weaners to the same audience....

nope. they want this entire bloody wad of dough for fat fucking salaries and can only spend 2 dash a month on actual contests. its so fucking obvious these guys are laughing to the bank each month. jesus fuck, wake the fuck up and vote these guys out
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5 points,1 month ago
I look forward to reading your proposal for giving away tens of thousands of dollars to new users.

We have been buying ads on facebook and just recently got approved for twitter ads so look for those as well as youtube ads! Or put your money where your mouth is and do your own proposal if you feel something is lacking.


"only spend 2 dash a month on actual contests."
lol, you may want to check that number again bro.
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1 point,1 month ago
Sorry mate - but this comment is ridiculous. We BURN dash from our budget every month. Its also offensive.
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1 point,1 month ago
voting yes to dash force. Its absolutely needed. I would spend more on this or other similar teams. I believe a good team of people dedicated to a job are a lot better than a series of separate proposals from all and sundry. Although I suppose both are good - or would be if we could reduce the 5 dash proposal cost.
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-6 points,1 month ago
45k for news is ALOT. And from what I personally have seen/read a lot of the articles and reviews are just not good and are not informative.

Its a lot of junk articles like the multiple articles about supposive "Trolls" lurking around the internet. I think it's just silly nonsense.
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6 points,1 month ago
As a former journalist and publisher, I can tell you that $45k is NOT a lot to pay for three full-time salaries which would also have to include the cost of benefits, taxes, etc. plus 15 part-time salaries, plus equipment, marketing/advertising etc. Oh, and throw in the cost of expansion and growth.

You may not LIKE what they are producing, but they are doing things and filling an information need that nobody else is doing right now.

Until someone comes up with a better proposal based on a track record of actual deliverables, they should be supported in the work they are doing every day for Dash.
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1 point,1 month ago
Thanks for your kind words. It's good to have professional perspective into what we do. We'll keep running more and more efficiently as time goes on.
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7 points,1 month ago
You may want to actually read the proposal as you seemed to have missed quite a lot.
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-6 points,1 month ago
Ah correct, what I see is Dash will be funding Dash Force to subsidize small projects proposal fees as well.

What exactly is your plan behind executing this task? Will you personally be giving the Dash out to Proposals of your choosing, because I remember the network voted not to lower the proposal fee yet you would be lowering it for users of your choosing? Or will it be a site like Dash incubator or Dash Treasury and why should we pay you to do what they do for free?

Sorry just a large lack of information on what you actually plan on doing. Thanks
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7 points,1 month ago
If that's all you got from reading the proposal you need to try and improve your reading comprehension skills. You seem to be grasping at straws looking for something, anything to pick at.
The community trust that we will be good stewards of their funds and that's why they have supported us for almost 9 months now, that was before your time so you may not realize it's been that long.

The original plan for fees was to pick the top 3 highest rated proposal from biltongs PEC report and offer help to those who needed it.
Since that did not pass I have been listening to the community suggestions and just had a meeting last week with Jim Bursch of Dash incubator and offered to help and collaborate with him. We will be working together in the future to support good projects that need help with the proposal fee. I will also work with Dash treasury if they find a good proposal that we both support.

We have lots of other new exciting stuff planed too, one being sending our reporters to the Dash London and China Blockchain conferences to do video reports and interviews as well as a few other surprises, stay tuned!
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-10 points,1 month ago
Jesus fucking christ $50000 per month?!?!?!?!!!! For 2 articles per month!?!? This is the biggest fucking ripoff since dashair's farnsworth's free quarter million dollars without a goddamn airshow yet.

If you fuckwad idiots continue to vote for this, you deserve to lose the money. To anyone too stupid to understand this proposal: it gives mastermined a monster $40000 per month salary for managing a few cheapass entrylevel article writers who mostly just copy the latest coindesk article and add some faggy graphics.
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4 points,1 month ago
"you deserve to lose the money" -- no money is lost; the money is created. As long as we are not spending the whole budget, there isn't even an opportunity cost. You may quibble about the price, but there is no cost.

This sounds like a personal vendetta and not a valid criticism of the proposal.

There is no question that Dash Force adds value to the Dash community and based on their track record, they will add more value.
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6 points,1 month ago
"2 articles per month!?!?"
lol, there you go again.
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1 point,1 month ago
Do you really have skills to make a sum? just writing with fury without arguments nor knowledge doesn´t have sense.
Yes, may be around 2 articles....... per DAY, contests, international outreach, weekly podcast, interviews, graphic work, video work........ are only some of many activities.
Please, consider your words.
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-5 points,1 month ago
skills to make a sum? $50000 times 12 months = $600,000 year for donkey dick

watch this one - i guarantee they won't answer: could you please itemize out the fulltime salaries for us here?

its a reasonable request.
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8 points,1 month ago
Since we get paid to do troll patrol it's kinda like you are my job security, good lookin' out joe blows.


"could you please itemize out the fulltime salaries for us here?"

No, because it's none of your beeswax. If core started doing that I would definitely consider it though. Get back to me when they respond to your request, lol.
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-4 points,1 month ago
quit hiding behind cores bullshit precedent. you wont tell anyone your salary brian because its fucking insanely high and you know people would revolt against you if they knew.
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-8 points,1 month ago
Core is a separate entity that the community trust.

You are an entity the community doesn't fully trust.

That being said, we trust core properly distributes funds, but are Leary on how your funds are distributed.

Itemizing is essential. But it is fully your choice to do so or not.
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2 points,1 month ago
The community has funded the Dash Force for 9 months now so I think more people trust Dash Force than not. But even Core isn't "fully" trusted by some.
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3 points,1 month ago
Yawn
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-4 points,1 month ago
yawn? please remember youre the one asking for $60000 per month for an article site
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4 points,1 month ago
Dash Force News is only one part of what Dash Force does, probably about half of the total operation, just the most visible.
Please read the whole proposal to see everything that DF does.
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0 points,1 month ago
Thats really not helping mastermined.
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4 points,1 month ago
Sorry, that was the most dignified response I could muster to those statements.
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