Proposal “Brave-advertising-campaign-reporting“ (Active)Back

Title:Brave advertising campaign reporting
Owner:kotbykot
Monthly amount: 1 DASH (70 USD)
Completed payments: no payments occurred yet (5 month remaining)
Payment start/end: 2025-10-07 / 2026-03-05 (added on 2025-10-11)
Final voting deadline: in 6 days
Votes: 443 Yes / 297 No / 7 Abstain
Will be funded: No. This proposal needs additional 204 Yes votes to become funded.
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Proposal description

Dear Joel!
I appreciate your efforts to promote Dash. However, I have doubts about the justification for spending money on some of your projects. As a long-time supporter, I want to make sure your efforts are effective and their ROI is high enough.
Please provide analytics (CSV, XLSX) from your most recent Brave ad campaign (you position yourself as a good marketer, so you track the analytics of a specific ad campaign).
Specifically, I'm interested in:
1) How many times was the Dash banner shown in the Brave browser?
2) What age group was the banner shown in the Brave browser?
3) How many clicks did Brave users make to the landing page you designed?
4) How many new users installed any Dash apps?
5) How many new users signed up for social media (X, Facebook, etc.)?
6) How many new users joined the channel/groups on Discord, Telegram, etc.?
I'm only interested in statistics for the period of the Brave campaign.
These statistics will allow us (the owners) to correct errors and improve our methods for promoting Dash.
Please provide the statistics in an easy-to-understand format (CSV, XLSX). Publish them on the forum or in the message below.
I'm making this request publicly so it won't be ignored. I also believe it would be wrong to hide such statistics from the community; we're all in the same boat.
Thank you so much for your work.

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1 point,23 days ago
There are currently 322 votes against this proposal.

Who would vote against a proposal asking for more transparency and accountability? Only the corrupt.

All those NO votes shows you just how big and powerful the corrupt group is.

We MUST get the thousands of silent MNOs to come and vote, in order to overpower the corrupt. We MUST incentivize voting so they take the time to come and vote. The best way to do that is to grant them the leftover funds at the end of each cycle.

We MUST get them to come and vote, or the treasury will only grow more and more corrupt.
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1 point,23 days ago
Those who voted no for this proposal.

https://mnowatch.org/latestlink_DashdUniqueHashVotes.html?4=Brave-advertising-campaign-reporting
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1 point,23 days ago
Their names.

etnaezio
ElecincuBraz
genesis
erma
Stakgrowmnow
growmnowincu1
centItalmnow
incuketitext
mnowincuketi1

...and a LOT of crowdnodes (because most of the agents are hiding here)
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0 points,23 days ago
Do you have a MN?

My idea is simply this: we task betrand256 of DMT with the simple task of adding in a group chat message that goes to all masternode owners (available by IP). That way, we can communicate with them DIRECTLY and bypass Rango.

They already 'registered' their MNs with DMT, so its not a further invasion of their privacy. And, this will allow us to instantly gain access to all 2398 MNOs, instead of just the 528 that have registered with Rango. It wouldn't even need a vote, as DMT has new features all the time without taking a vote. If it were something like "give me the ability to PoSe Ban other nodes" then that would definitely need a vote.

But add a chat so we can communicate with the rest of the MNOs? You can slip that right in.
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1 point,23 days ago
How do you know that 528 have registered here in Dashcentral?
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1 point,23 days ago
Are you an dashcentral admin? Only the dashcentral admin could know that number....
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-1 point,23 days ago
I don't answer questions to you. Stop trying to force me to accept you as an equal here.
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1 point,23 days ago
We are not equal.

I am more than you.

With your badge, you have a proof that once upon times you used to have a masternode vote.

I still have a masternode vote, but you dont want me to prove it to you by using a zkp protocol.

So I am superior than you.
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-1 point,23 days ago
You are not a MNO and your comments do not belong here.

Trying to force them indicates that you are a bad actor and must be ignored for the sake of the DAO.

Thanks.
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1 point,23 days ago
I hold an MNO vote. Go sync your Core wallet, ask me which proposal you want me to change the outcome, and I will vote for it.
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-1 point,23 days ago
But do you have 1000 DASH???

I don't buy it and I don't take orders. You lied about a lot so far. And when asked to put up a proposal to effect your changes instead of trolling the MN, you lied about that too, proving that you are not here to 'improve the DAO', but troll the MNOs.
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1 point,23 days ago
Are you retarded?

I told you one thousand times, that I hold 0 dash, but I have a masternode vote.
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0 points,23 days ago
Are you retarded?

Did you forget that you ALREADY HAVE a 25 month proposal on the front page??

So its clear you're willing and able to submit a proposal to troll the network, but when it comes to 'supporting your agenda' you REFUSE to do so. Which means you are only using this as an EXCUSE to post here, you don't actually care about it.

Thanks for proving that liar.
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1 point,23 days ago
And I dont want to buy Dash. I want to earn dash by doing some job.
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1 point,23 days ago
I mean, I want to get paid directly in dash, I dont want to work for fiat money, and use that money to buy dash.
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-1 point,23 days ago
I mean that's a nice dream but you're not going to get paid for spamming this board with comments and 'holding a MN vote' doesn't pay either.

So its clear that your plan can't work, which means its a lie.
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1 point,23 days ago
I earn my 6 dash by doing some job.
How did you earn your supposed 1000 dash?
Buy bying them using fiat money?
In that case, you are worthless.
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-2 points,23 days ago
Okay so you have to do that again, put up a proposal and stop spamming the network. Your idea is BACKWARDS.

You're trying to claim that you have the right to post here because "technically nobody can prove that they're a MNO, so I, also without proof should be allowed to post here too."

Everyone buys Dash at the price point they can get at. Instead of trying to lecture me, you need to get a job and stop lying about your motivations.
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-1 point,23 days ago
Okay so that's your problem, not the Dash network's.
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1 point,23 days ago
I have 0 dash remaining. So I cannot add a proposal. Deal with it.
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0 points,23 days ago
No. Buy more Dash and make a proposal to effect your changes. Stop trying to use that as an excuse to troll the MNOs.

If you don't have any money you should be spending your time getting a job, not trolling decentralized financial networks (this is likely your job which explains your persistence).
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1 point,21 days ago
Yes...I want a job and be paid in Dash.

But I cannot find any.
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0 points,19 days ago
DEAL WITH IT . FILTHY AGENTS!!!

NOT ONLY I AM A PROOF OF WORK ADVOCATE, I AM ALSO A PROOF OF USEFULL WORK ADVOCATE!!!!!

I WILL NEVER SURRENDER TO FILTY AGENTS LIKE YOU, WHO PROMOTE THE PROOF OF STAKE, IN ORDER FOR THE AGENTS TO GET VOTING RIGHTS AND DESTROY THE DASH COMMUNITY!!!!
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-1 point,19 days ago
I will deal with NOTHING FILTHY LIAR/TROLL!

You are a PROOF OF LIES advocate, you are a garbage person who is LYING in order to continue TROLLING this place!!!

The DAO will NEVER SURRENDER to lying, poor spelling infiltrator trolls like you! Who promote lie after lie in order to AVOID dealing with the DAO appropriately, by BUYING DASH and PUTTING UP A VOTE instead of SPAMMING THE NETWORK with your lies!!!!
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0 points,20 days ago
I have no Dash to make a proposal. I spend them all to the Encointer proposals, because voting the numbers is the most important thing.

Deal with it.

If you want me to propose, give me one dash.
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0 points,20 days ago
Garbage. Again you are just making up excuses as to why you won't put up a proposal.

And anyway the fact that you would make the encointer proposal first without addressing this proves that this issue isn't important to you like you're pretending it is.

So again your own lies defeat you.
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0 points,20 days ago
I used to have 6 Dash which I earned with my job and I spend them all to the Encounter proposals, and I borrowed one dash from mnowatch.org that was either a tip, or mined from the budget.

So no, I do not own dirty Dash coins bought by agents in order to get a vote and control the Dash community.
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0 points,20 days ago
I dont want to own dirty Dash coins, that have been bought.

I am not a filthy agent like you, so I do not buy Dash, in order to get a vote and control the Dash community.

I want to earn decent Dash coins, by doing a Dash job.

But I cannot find any Dash job.
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-1 point,20 days ago
You're lying. If 'voting the numbers' was the most important thing, you would be commenting about it, instead of commenting about this.

You refuse to put up a proposal and you're constantly lying because you're trying to gain power over others by trolling and tricking them into believing bullshit.

Not going to happen. Deal with it.

Stop lying in order to avoid putting your money where your mouth is.
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-2 points,20 days ago
You are lying. You were fine owning 'borrowed Dash coins' most likely bought with fiat.

You are just making excuses as to why you won't support your beliefs with a proposal, by pretending you don't want to buy Dash.

But you clearly have fiat, which means you're lying about 'wanting to earn Dash' by doing a Dash job.

And anyway, your inability to 'find a Dash job' is not the network's problem, its yours.

You have no right to force us to read your spam as an excuse for why you won't put a proposal in.
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-1 point,20 days ago
You have money but refuse to buy Dash to support your proposal, which means you're lying about caring about the flaws of this place.
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1 point,23 days ago
we task betrand256....
??? NOT!!!
we PAY betrand256!!!
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-1 point,23 days ago
There is no WE. YOU ARE NOT A MNO!
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1 point,23 days ago
Why not WE?

I can also pay betrand to implement that, regardless I have an MN or not.
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-2 points,23 days ago
Because YOU are not a MNO.

YOU cannot pay him anything liar, you have 0 Dash, remember??
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2 points,22 days ago
I have 0 Dash, but I have USD, stupid!
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1 point,22 days ago
I just dont want to buy Dash, as you did.

Everyone who buys Dash by using FIAT, instead of earning them by doing some Dash Job, he/she is worthless and should not get voting rights.
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-1 point,22 days ago
You're just doubling down on lies because that's what you're here to do, troll MNOs. If what you're saying were true, then Dash's price would be ZERO since nobody would buy it.

This is the FOOLISHNESS you wish to force MNOs to submit to all because you refuse to admit you're lying and your story makes no sense.
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0 points,21 days ago
Why Dash would fall to zero if we dont give voting rights to those who buy Dash?

This does not make sense!!!

They can still buy Dash, but the will not decide about it, because the buyer may have money, but most of them have no brain.

The workers have brain!
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0 points,21 days ago
I'm not here to answer your questions. Figure it out!

Your post doesn't make sense, nor does your desire to constantly troll the MNOs just so you can force us to accept disrespect by flouting the rules here.

YOU DO NOT HAVE A BRAIN
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-1 point,22 days ago
Your lies make no sense, stupid!

You come up with more and more aggressive b.s. stories to avoid admitting you've been defeated

And anyway, to pay bertrand256 you'd still need to convert your USD to Dash
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0 points,21 days ago
Why ? I think bertrand256 get whatever coin you ca give.

Once again, you are talking bullshit. Will you ever stop? I dont think so.

I would like Rango to implement a filter here in dashcentral, so that I could filter all your stupid and meaningless messages.
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0 points,21 days ago
Betrand is paid in Dash, obviously. He doesn't come to the DAO to be paid in "any coin". And anyway, you admit that you have zero Dash, even though you have other money.

Which means you are DELIBERATELY refusing to buy Dash in order to create a proposal. Which means your excuses are BULLSHIT. Will you ever stop? Definitely not.

I would like Rango to implement a filter here in dashcentral so you are FORCED TO STOP POSTING your stupid and inane blabber.
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1 point,21 days ago
So you want to filter me, and I want to filter you!

I am glad that we have a single poing of agreement!
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-1 point,20 days ago
You are not a MNO and have no right to be here, nor 'filter' anyone.
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1 point,25 days ago
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IAHFy1on8xzIWwnzP_ITqQERTOzA3GCzUldL_KJlwVY/edit?gid=1422360832#gid=1422360832
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0 points,24 days ago
And how can we verify that the above data are true?
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0 points,24 days ago
Verify that you have a MN first, then you can talk.
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0 points,24 days ago
I dont have an MN. I have a MN voting key.

But I dont give my private voting key to the dashcentral admins, as you did all you stupid that hold the MN badge.
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0 points,23 days ago
The badge by my name stands for "Masternode Owner". If you are not one of those, you should not be here or commenting. WIthout that you commenting here is you deliberately going against the will of the MNOs. You, being Rango or working with him, KNOW that there will never be a "zk proof" implemented. If you truly believed that way, you would also REFRAIN FROM COMMENTING until such was prepared. You don't do that because you are being dishonest and lying.
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0 points,23 days ago
The badge name is also wrong.

It should be named "Masternode Voting Key Owner" (MVKO) because you received your badge by disclosing your masternode voting key.
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0 points,23 days ago
So you want to be a stickler when it suits you (you have to put a vote to make Rango stop me!), but when it doesn't suit you, you play fast and loose with the rules. You are not a masternode owner, you did NOT buy 1000 Dash like the rest of us did, so you DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO COMMENT HERE LIKE THE REST OF US DO.
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0 points,23 days ago
I reapeat. You badge is NOT a proof that you have 1000 Dash.

You got your badge by revealing a masternode voting private key.

Like the one I have, and I dont reveal it.

So stop pretending to be something you're not.
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0 points,23 days ago
I repeat, yes it is. It doesn't matter *how* I got my badge. What matters is that I'm not trying to abuse the DAO by taking advantage of edge cases like you are.

If you were really just a "vote holder" you wouldn't care about any of this. You are likely a sockpuppet of Rango, that's why you're so familiar with the ins and outs of 'the system' and use them as deflection shields.

You have no proof that you "have a vote" which is as good as not having one.

So stop pretending to be something you're not.
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0 points,23 days ago
By having a green MNO badge, you have no proof that you "have a vote" either.

By having a green MNO badge, also you have no proof that you have a Masternode.

The only that your badge reveals (provided of course that you are not Rango or Rango gave you that badge for free) is that you used to have a masternode vote at the time you received the badge.

Face the reality, stop milseading others.
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0 points,23 days ago
Again, your argument is akin to saying NOBODY has any proof of being here.

You are using that as an EXCUSE to post here, as an act of abuse ("if nobody has the right then EVERYONE has the right!" which is faulty logic).

Only a bad actor would behave that way.

Face the reality, stop misleading others.
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0 points,24 days ago
I hope that the dascentral admins will implement a zero knowledge proof, one day.
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0 points,23 days ago
The point of the "MNO" badge is to PROVE that YOU HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME like the rest of us. "getting a masternode vote" is NOT the same thing as buying 1000 Dash, therefore, you are abusing the system by forcing us to read your comments here. Its basically spam at this point.

And, you even refuse to prove that you have such a vote, showing that you don't care about the rules of the DAO and are merely trolling with Rango's blessing. Which indicates that you either are him, or are working together with him.
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0 points,23 days ago
Your MNO badge does not prove you have skin in the game, because you got it by using your voting keys.

I also have voting keys, but I have no skin in the game.

So your badge is wrong, it should be renamed to FMVO(=Former Masternode Vote Owner).

I honest enough, so I refuse to get a wrong badge (and also refuse to reveal my voting private key to the dashcentral admins)
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0 points,23 days ago
Everyone who owns a masternode proves they have skin in the game, unless they lie about it. The badge isn't wrong, it represents those who own a MN. You are trying to rely on edge cases and technicalities to weasel your way into commenting.

If you were truly honest, you wouldn't try to comment here when MNOs ask you not to.
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0 points,23 days ago
By the way, therealDashman21, you never asked me how this zero knowledge proof can be implemented.

Dont you care about it?
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0 points,23 days ago
No I don't. You shouldn't be here and have no right to promote your ideas. Get a MN and then we'll talk. That's what this place is for, not for you to 'bandy about the flaws of the DAO'. If you truly believed in what you say, YOU WOULD PUT A PROPOSAL to "improve the DAO by enforcing XYZ", instead of trolling me and other MNOs. That is proof enough that you are being deceptive.
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0 points,23 days ago
I have 0 dash in my wallet.
So I am unable to put a budget proposal on how we could implement a zkp protocol for identifying Masternode voters.

Give me one Dash, and I will.

You can find my Dash address here:

https://gitlab.com/dundemo/mnowatch
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0 points,23 days ago
Then you shouldn't post here.

Ask the guy who supposedly gave you a MN vote? You asking me for money is a "power move". You should ask the person you're pretending you got a vote from.

The fact that you'd rather ask me is strong evidence you have no such vote and are just a troll.
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0 points,23 days ago
>The fact that you'd rather ask me is strong evidence you have no such vote and are just a troll.

I could explain to you how can I prove that I have a vote, without revealing my voting private key.

But as you stated before, you dont care to know about it.

So I will not tell you.
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0 points,23 days ago
You are just playing mental chess here, going from deflection shield to deflection shield while trying to gain power over me with various power moves. If someone lies to you and you believe them, they gain power over you. That's what itsdemo is trying to do. Trying to gain power over other MNOs that way is proof that he is a bad actor.
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0 points,23 days ago
The one who gave me my MN vote, did me the greatest favor!

I dont want to bother him/her again and ask more favors, I am not greedy.
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0 points,23 days ago
You're lying. If you weren't greedy you wouldn't ask me for anything either. Also, a MN vote is not a favor, you don't get paid from it. Its more work than anything. The fact that you refuse to ask your "benefactor" for 1 Dash strongly suggests that such a benefactor does not exist and that you're lying about having a vote.

Thank you for proving that you are a troll and a bad actor.
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0 points,23 days ago
I am not greedy against the one who already did me a favor.

So I ask favors for other persons.

The one who gave me his vote did me the greatest favor. If I could hold all votes, I could control all the Dash community.
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-1 point,23 days ago
Again, having a vote is not a favor its work. And your story just doesn't add up.

Why would you want to "control all the Dash community" without owning any Dash? That doesn't make any sense.

Also, why would someone with 0 Dash care so much about the ins and outs of proposals, MNO badges and voting? Again, your story has more holes in it than swiss cheese.
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0 points,25 days ago
Not only is this not a necessary proposal, but I just realized it's a scam to get 5 dash over the next 5 months, this being the same as the second vaporous proposal submitted recently by the same proposer. Please vote no, don't encourage this milking of the system.
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0 points,25 days ago
Disagreed. Returning to an era of transparency and KPI metrics for proposals is in the best interest of the network.
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0 points,25 days ago
I'm actually surprised you would take this stance. I honestly thought you'd agree. You do realize Joel has released the results already.
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0 points,25 days ago
Why? I've always been pro-KPI, even for Dash LaTam teams (back when we had DashWatch). Joel's campaign isn't over yet, is it? And you yourself said "there's nothing to release". This vote is simply "KPI for brave advertising for the next 5 months".

So there's 5 months of results left to go. Again, I feel that its in the best interest of the network to return to the era of KPI-defined proposals, where each proposal has set, verifiable metrics that they can show reaching/not reaching and subject themselves to feeback.
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0 points,25 days ago
If you are worried about 5 coins - it's not a problem, I will send them to those who will pass the vote during these 5 months in the form of donations.
I have other goals.
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1 point,24 days ago
Pls just request 0 dash next time for 5 months, if you really want to create long-lasting discussion proposals. Problem solved.
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0 points,24 days ago
But that will mean that if the proposal passes then the operator won't get the proposal fee back. You and TanteStefana are certainly pinching pennies when it comes to proposals asking for transparency and KPIs, but have nothing to say on much more expensive proposals (500 Dash PER MONTH for 3 months). Why? Why are you being so hard on this proposal while leaving far more expensive proposals alone?
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1 point,28 days ago
There is absolutely no need to put in a proposal for this, stats will be released from Brave momentarily, then I will share them under the Dash Growth proposal.

Stats are limited to what Brave is able to provide. Since they are a privacy-focused browser many stats aren't provided (they aren't able to be provided because the browser itself prevents tracking), but I will share whatever they are able to actually share.
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3 points,27 days ago
Thank you!
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0 points,28 days ago
In short, I believe that you and others have been given orders to weaken Dash's privacy by a third-party, possibly a U.S. governmental organization, using the same faulty tech that Monero 'relied on' for years, that was proven to be compromised (timing analysis attacks). However, if this is the case, you have a FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY to the Dash network to fully disclose this relationship and order.

Coinjoin is the most effective form of blockchain privacy and trackers have no way of getting around it. Proof of this is how the Tornado Cash developer was arrested simply for developing and deploying effective coinjoin on Ethereum.

Therefore, weakening coinjoin by making it vulnerable to timing and amount analyses, like are current known vulnerabilities in CT is a viable strategy for making Dash's privacy less effective, so that bankers can punish you for financial privacy (legally and extrajudicially, who knows what they've got planned for those they've cornered i this manner).

If my contention is correct, then you and those you are working with would be in violation of your responsibilities to the DAO and thus subject to network censure, regardless of what orders you've been given about not disclosing your relationship to the rest of the network.

Summarily, if you fail to disclose this third-party order/relationship, then you are in breach of your duty to the Dash network. Dash is not under U.S. govt jurisdiction; if it were, we'd all have the court order to ponder about instead of why you're working behind the scenes to weaken Dash's privacy.

Please respond in order to put to rest the notion that you are a bad actor that is working to make Dash a less effective currency by removing our strong privacy guarantees using lies and gaslighting (your team has already been caught in a lie, namely that MNOs wouldn't have to pay for this upgrade, proving the nonlegal and extrajudicial nature of what I allege to be the orders you are operating under).

Thanks for reading!
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0 points,27 days ago
Thank you, I've noted this.
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0 points,27 days ago
You're welcome.
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0 points,28 days ago
You don't have to reply to everything of course, just the truncated list below from the discord the other day would be sufficient for my needs, thanks.

>'Good day, I'm here wondering why MNOs are voting for adding CT to Dash. I've laid out on the proposal why I don't think its a good idea in a few points:

1. CT is Monero tech that they're abandoning

2. We don't need CT, the only benefit is a "speed up"

3. That speed up removes one of the main features of coinjoin, namely the random amount of time between mixing and sending

4. CT is vulnerable to timing analyses (one of the main reasons Monero is removing it)

5. Powerup privacy is a mostly Monero-based organisation, and they were supposed to pay for this, but now you're reversing course and coming to the DAO for funding, in violation of your original proposals stated goal that "MNOs won't have to pay for this"

6. Monero, as you know, is anathema to Dash. We don't get along and thus shouldn't accept "their emotional abuse" tactics, like fuding and lying about Dash and now coming to the DAO for money, nor should we "dutifully accept their trash"

7. I contend that this "privacy overhaul push" is a backdoor attempt by the Monero community to attack Dash in the same way George Donnelly and Henry Georgist did, by "currying favor" while actually attacking Dash behind our backs

Any objections?'
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0 points,28 days ago
Could you please respond to the feedback I have left on your CT proposal?
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0 points,28 days ago
He will not answer.

He never do.

He only requires faith, from the stupid ones.

And we have a lot of stupid around.
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0 points,27 days ago
For example, you don't have a masternode but still post here trying to influence those who do. That's stupid.
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0 points,27 days ago
And by the way, you used to have a masternode, but probably you dont have anymore. I challenged you to prove that you still own 1000 dash, and you refused to take the challenge.

So prove that you still have your masternode (by subscribing a new account and giving to it the masternode badge).

Until then, SHUT UP!
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0 points,27 days ago
And btw, you have no proof or evidence that I don't have a masternode, and since you don't have one yourself you have no right to question me about it. You already admit that you don't have 1000 Dash which means your challenge is invalid.

I don't answer to you, I answer to the DAO which YOU ARE NOT A PART OF. So when you get a masternode you will then be a part of it and have the right to issue challenges.

UNTIL THEN, SHUT TF UP!
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0 points,27 days ago
I have a full masternode vote, so I represent the masternode who gave me his vote.
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0 points,27 days ago
Well you are not a MNO which means you are of a lesser status than I am.
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0 points,21 days ago
You are not an MNO either.

You badge reveals that you used to have a vote, at the time the dashcentral system verified that.
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-1 point,20 days ago
You have no right to question my status as a MNO.

If that were sufficient as evidence, then there would be no proof of ANY MNOs here. You are just repeating yourself because you don't want to admit that you lost.
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-2 points,28 days ago
I'm voting no because I think this is uncalled for. A month hasn't even gone by for the first Brave campaign and I have full confidence that Joel will provide all the stats possible. I just think this was uncalled for.
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1 point,28 days ago
TanteStafana....

A well known person, who relies on faith, rather than proof.

https://sylviaschroeder.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/Do-You-Need-Faith-Supplements-920x920.jpg

I think persons like that are dangerous for the Dash community, and their voting rights should be diminished.
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1 point,27 days ago
I'm still allowed to speak my mind even if you don't like it.
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1 point,21 days ago
I support your right to speak.

But your voting power should be diminished.
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-1 point,20 days ago
I do not support your right to speak as you are not a MNO.

You should be censured and censored from here.
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2 points,28 days ago
Joel has been receiving DAO funds for years with very little transparency. If anything, this sets a good precedent for transparent funding.

Let's be honest, Joel's growth campaigns have not netted much results if any, despite being multiple hundreds of Dash per month FOR YEARS. We got far more bang for our Duff with the proposals in LaTam which cost a fraction of this, but gave us 150,000 verified android downloads.

So I disagree with you, this is very much not only called for, but a long time in coming.
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0 points,27 days ago
It was called a war chest for a reason, he has only just started his first campaign. Nothing has happened until now, so there was nothing to report.
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0 points,27 days ago
So you disagree with the idea of holding long time DAO recipients accountable for their funding? This isn't Joel's first rodeo, as I'm sure you're aware.

This proposal is funded for 5 months, so your criticism won't apply by the time its through.
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0 points,25 days ago
I disagree with giving this proposal 5 dash for putting in a duh, and annoying proposal.
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0 points,22 days ago
Well, that's your right. But I think its inappropriate for MNOs to vote against the best interests of the DAO. Again, Joel has received much Dash with very little oversight.

Why you would personally be annoyed by holding him accountable remains to be seen, but I know that I am not annoyed by forcing DFOs to explain their spending using KPIs, which is a standard tactic in the industry.
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-1 point,29 days ago
Voting yes, obviously!
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-1 point,28 days ago
You are not a masternode owner and should not be here or commenting.
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1 point,28 days ago
I hold a masternode vote. And I am a proposal owner.
So I have full rights commenting here.

You sold your masternode but your badge is still kept (due to dashcentral's bad implementation of the masternodes verification feature).

So YOU should not be here or commenting.
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-3 points,28 days ago
If I recall you stated that you hold a "partial MN share" on crowd node. That means you don't have a full vote.

Furthermore, Proposal owners are only allowed to comment on THEIR OWN proposals. So, no you don't. You are trying to force the network to "accept disrespect" by playing fast and loose with the rules so you can unduly influence MNOs.

You have no proof or even evidence that I sold my MN, which I have not. I have full commenting rights as a MNO.
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2 points,28 days ago
I hold a full vote.

I do not verify it here in dashcentral, because I am waiting for a zero knowledge protocol in order to prove that I hold my vote.
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1 point,28 days ago
I have a protocol for you, in order to prove that you have not sold your masternode.

Delete the therealDashman21 account.

Then subscribe therealDashman22 account, and give to it the MNO badge.

Will you do this? If not, then you have sold your masternode!
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-2 points,28 days ago
Also, the fact that you're accusing me of this is projection, i.e. you are showing HOW YOU THINK and strategize.

I would never "sell my MN and try to keep commenting". Its just not how I'm wired (i.e. I'm not wired for deception).

The fact that I have not sold my MN and that you yet accuse me of this indicates that that's WHAT YOU WOULD DO, and thus proves my contention that you are a bad actor attempting to deceive and troll the network through impropriety.

Thank you for this proof.
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-2 points,28 days ago
You do not have the right to force me to "prove" I still have a MN. You are not a MNO. Only other MNOs have the right to question the status of a MNO.

You have no evidence that I have sold my node and have no right to comment or be here.
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1 point,28 days ago
I have no power to force you, only the dashcentral admins can.

But the fact that you are afraid to delete the therealDashman21 account and subscribe therealDashman22 account and give to it the masternode badge, is a CLEAR proof that you have sold your masternode.
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-1 point,28 days ago
You have no right to ask either. I never stated I was afraid, only that your request is inappropriate.

You don't have the right to attack people just because they ask you to prove that you're a MNO. If you don't have evidence that I sold my node, then you have no right to demand I prove it.

Your argument is therefore illogical and false.
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1 point,28 days ago
I have clear evedence that you do not hold a masternode.

The evidence is that you are afraid to delete your account, subscribe a new one, and give to it a masternode badge.
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0 points,23 days ago
Everyone who has a voting private key, can get the badge.

The badge you have is a proof that you have a voting key, it is not a proof that you own 1000 dash.
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0 points,23 days ago
Again, if you really cared about this, you would put a proposal up to fix it, instead of trolling MNOs in the comments and using it as an excuse to FORCE US to accept you here when you shouldn't be.
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0 points,28 days ago
I have a masternode vote, and dashcentral implementation allows everyone who hold a vote, to receive a MNO badge.
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-1 point,28 days ago
If that were the case, you would get the badge and prove you have the right to speak here. You refuse, which means you are likely lying.
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-1 point,28 days ago
That is not evidence, you have no proof that I'm afraid of that at all. If that were all it took, then you would have evidence that NO ONE here is a MNO, and that is clearly false.

Try again.
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0 points,28 days ago
Yes, this challenge applies to everyone who holds the Masternode badge.

As long as the deficiency in dashcentral remains, everyone who hold the masternode badge should regularly delete his/her account, and subscribe a new one, in order to prove that they have not sold their masternode.
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-3 points,28 days ago
You do not have a badge, which means you do not have the right to address those with a badge. Its really simple.

And your statement is clearly nonsense, as you, who have no proof that you should be allowed to comment here, are trying to impugn those who have already proven such.

This is a "power move" and using it proves that you are a bad actor.
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0 points,28 days ago
If you don't have a MN, you don't have the right to stipulate rules and conditions here. You are challenging me of not having a MN simply because I'm telling you that you don't have a right to post without a badge in other words you're engaging in punitive action. You don't actually have a legitimate reason to accuse me of that.

You are using false logic by speaking for me (I never said I was afraid, your challenge is not appropriate as you don't have the right to comment here), therefore your conclusion is also false.
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0 points,28 days ago
It is not enough to prove once that you have the masternode badge.

You should be able to prove it at anytime, especially when people are challenging you of not having it.

You are afraid to take the challenge, so you are clearly a scammer.
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0 points,28 days ago
How can you get a MN badge without having a MN?

If you refuse to receive your badge, YOU REFUSE THE RIGHT TO COMMENT. They go hand in hand.

Your complaint should not be taken up with MNOs who have a badge, it should be taken up with Rango (who likely put you up to this because he knows he's not going to do anything about it, so you can use this to harrass MNOs that vote in ways you/he doesn't like).
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0 points,28 days ago
People who hold a full vote, can get the masternode badge.

I refuse to receive my badge, because I disagree with dashcentral's implemention.

I want a zero knolwdge protocol, for me and for all the masternodes.
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-3 points,28 days ago
How can you get a MN badge without having a MN?

If you refuse to receive your badge, YOU REFUSE THE RIGHT TO COMMENT. They go hand in hand.

Your complaint should not be taken up with MNOs who have a badge, it should be taken up with Rango (who likely put you up to this because he knows he's not going to do anything about it, so you can use this to harrass MNOs that vote in ways you/he doesn't like).
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-2 points,28 days ago
If you don't verify then you shouldn't comment. If you really thought you had enough with that, then you wouldn't rely on "I have a proposal".

You are disrespecting the rules of this place and the MNOs by commenting here.
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0 points,28 days ago
Delete therealDashman21 account, subscribe therealDashman22 account, and give to it the masternode badge, in order to bypass dashcentral's deficency and prove that you hold a masternode.

This is the only way for me to take you seriously.

Otherwise, please stop replying to me, you are just a worthless scammer.
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-2 points,28 days ago
Prove that you are a MNO and have the right to question other MNOs first.

YOU are the one under the microscope here, as you do not have a MN and thus do not have the right to comment here. I don't care if YOU take me seriously or not, you are not a MNO.

I will NOT stop replying to you as it is my duty (and the duty of all MNOs) to prevent trolling and comments by non-MNOs here.

Stop being a bad actor and stop trying to deceive the network.
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1 point,28 days ago
I have not a MN.

I only hold a full vote.
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-2 points,28 days ago
Then you should not comment here. Its that simple. Stop trying to abuse the rules to use a "power move" and force the network to suffer disrepect.
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0 points,28 days ago
I AM NOT GIVING MY VOTING PRIVATE KEY TO ANY BASTARD!!! NEITHER TO DASHCENTRAL ADMINS!!!

YOU DID THAT, AND THE DASHCENTRAL ADMINS CAN VOTE ON YOUR BEHALF!!!!

TRY TO UNDERSTAND THAT , STUPID!!!!
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-1 point,28 days ago
Do not be disrepectful here. You are not a MNO and have no right to post here or address me that way. Knock it off.

You are clearly behaving in a dishonest manner. If you truly were so distrustful of the admin (as opposed to pointing out flaws that they deliberately placed so they could make your account and use these arguments against those who speak out against impropriety, like I do), then YOU WOULDN'T POST AT ALL, IDIOT!

Stop being a bad actor!
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1 point,28 days ago
You are a scammer, because you want to censor all the masternodes that refuse to give their voting private key to the dashcentral admins.
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1 point,21 days ago
I can prove you that I have a vote.

Synchronize your core wallet, and tell me which proposal you want me to change its result.
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-2 points,20 days ago
I don't take orders from you. You have no right to be here and shouldn't be posting and trying to force others to listen to your inane opinions.

You admit that you don't have 1000 Dash, which means you have no right to post here at all.
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0 points,27 days ago
You are a scammer, because you want to defy the will of the masternode owners by influencing others without proving you have the right to do so.
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0 points,28 days ago
I am distrustful of the admin on what it concerns my vote, not on what it concerns my talk.

Stupid, will you ever understand that voting and talking is not the same?
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1 point,27 days ago
Stupid, this place is for MNOs only. You being distrustful of admins to the point where you won't get a badge means everyone should be DISTRUSTFUL OF YOU.

Will you ever understand that you don't have a right to flout the rules just because you're "scared"
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0 points,28 days ago
People who hold a full vote, can get the masternode badge.

I refuse to receive my badge, because I disagree with dashcentral's implemention.

I want a zero knolwdge protocol, for me and for all the masternodes.
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-2 points,28 days ago
How can you get a MN badge without having a MN?

If you refuse to receive your badge, YOU REFUSE THE RIGHT TO COMMENT. They go hand in hand.

Your complaint should not be taken up with MNOs who have a badge, it should be taken up with Rango (who likely put you up to this because he knows he's not going to do anything about it, so you can use this to harrass MNOs that vote in ways you/he doesn't like).
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1 point,28 days ago
I have a masternode vote, and dashcentral implementation allows everyone who hold a vote, to receive a MNO badge.
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-2 points,28 days ago
If that were the case, you would get the badge and prove you have the right to speak here. You refuse, which means you are likely lying.
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4 points,1 month ago
Voting Yes! for transparency's sake.
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