Proposal “AustinMeetStats2Vid“ (Completed)Back

Title:Austin Meetup / DASH Stats / 2x Videos on EverydayCrypto
Owner:barclays
One-time payment: 43 DASH (2988 USD)
Completed payments: 1 totaling in 43 DASH (0 month remaining)
Payment start/end: 2017-08-19 / 2017-09-18 (added on 2017-08-26)
Votes: 611 Yes / 65 No / 65 Abstain

Proposal description

This is a modest 3 part proposal as my first proposal. I've been in the crypto space since 2011 and I want to become more active in the DASH community. The goal is for myself to become familiar with the process and for the masternode operators to meet me through this proposal. I have much bigger ideas I plan on submitting after this is successful.

1. Austin Meetup
The Austin area is prime for additional investment. The great work that Danny and Chris have done on the crypto show means that many people in the Austin area have heard of Dash and are ready to take the next step. DASH will have greater returns by initially investing heavily in selective areas rather than spread out all over the world. The perfect place for that is the Austin area. It has a high concentration of tech business and entrepreneurs and people already involved with cryptocurrency. This is why I am asking for funding for the Dash Meetup to continue to be successful. We have already had our first meeting :

https://www.everydaycrypto.com/?p=131 (sorry the video cut out half way through)

And our second meeting is scheduled for next Wednesday:
https://www.meetup.com/Austin-Dash-Digital-Cash-Meetup/events/242652369/

We are targeting existing crypto people and business owners with our invitations. The format is a two part meeting with the first part geared toward first timers and the second part a more technical in depth presentation.
Please fund this to help make sure the Dash Austin meetup is impactful! This funding will pay for the costs of Meetup.com , snacks for the meetings (people will buy their own drinks), and my time for preparation, reaching out and connecting to business owners, and time for content creation for the meetings.

2. Dash Stats:
The website https://statoshi.info/ provides very detailed stats for Bitcoin that is invaluable to the developers. As we work on scaling DASH to 1GB blocks we will needs stats to help direct investment, monitor the network etc.
I have already started the initial work:

Website: https://dash-stats.everydaycrypto.com/dashboard/db/memory-pool?orgId=1
code: https://github.com/sile16/dash-stats

I would like to secure funding for the cost of hosting and my time for continued development. This funding will secure the hosting costs and pay for the continued development for Dash specific stats.  Please fund this to help make Dash more successful.

3. 2 Videos on Everyday Crypto
First I will make a video based on the Dash conference in London and post to my blog. I have already purchased my airfare and tickets to the event and is not a part of the funds I'm requesting here. I will publish two weeks after the conference or sooner.
Second, I will produce a detailed technical video on the innards of InstantSend. Similar in detail to the one I did for the Airbitz encryption schemes, however, with funding I can spend more time and put out a much higher production quality. I plan to publish prior to the Texas Bitcoin conference. Ideally, I'd like to present this talk in person at the Texas bitcoin conference if possible.

This video was just done in 1 take, example of technical detail:
https://youtu.be/eFoEdKxH1fQ#t=17m10s

The goal is make it detailed enough even fluffy pony will have to admit it's amazing technology.

Communication:
Communication will be on the proposal thread on forum.dash.org. I will respond to questions and updates there ad hoc, mainly around the dash-stats project as the meetup.com and the blog everydaycrypto.com will provide status and updates on their activities on their sites respectively.

Funds:
Any additional funds if available because of the price of dash, will be re-invested into the Meetup part of the proposal, going towards funding the initial $20 we give to new attendees and food for the event or other marketing materials such as banners, t-shirts, etc.

Dash @ 280

Austin Meetup
DollarsDashDescription
$400Đ1.43Food - Snacks ï»¿
$500Đ1.79Dash Giveaway for 1st timers (25 @ $20)
$300Đ1.07Projector
$1000Đ3.57My time and effort for 2x Meetups (~20Hours)
$180Đ0.64Meetup.com costs for 1 Year





Video Blogs
$2000Đ7.14
London Dash conference
$2000Đ7.14Instant Send Detailed Technical video 

dash-stats.everydaycrypto.com
$360Đ1.29Hosting Cost for 1 year
$800Đ2.86Development Cost already completed
$3000Đ10.71Continued addition of Dash specific stats

Total + Proposal Fee = Ä42.64

Round up to Đ43

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Discussion: Should we fund this proposal?

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2 points,2 years ago
We had a fantastic meetup tonight with over 30 people attending. We had a mix of people brand new to crypto currency and about half that already have Bitcoin and wanted to know more about Dash plus a few Dash Veterans. I actually met another Dash master node owner in person! Overall, we had great feedback on the content and people are looking forward to next meetup. There was great interaction and good questions. I'm working on uploading the a video now. We gave away $20 in Dash to 15 new members to the meetup. Overall, getting people to use Dash for real would be a lot easier if Coinbase or similar Bank->Dash option was available.

17 more votes!!! we can do this!
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1 point,2 years ago
Wow! Thank you to everyone who voted ! Thank you for your support! This funding will provide great returns on the investment. Instead of just rushing the video out as is tonight, now that we are funded I want to splice in the slides on the video, as the lighting made the slides on the screen not very legible on the video. So, I expect to be able to complete that by late tomorrow night. Thank you again!
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1 point,2 years ago
!FUNDED!
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1 point,2 years ago
Update: Because InstantSend has been temporarily disabled I will be able to speed up the timeline for when I can release my InstantSend video that details the potential security weakness. The reason for setting expectation for release of that video was to make sure the fix was released before I disclosed the details in the video.

Read more here: https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/temporary-disabling-of-instandsend-due-to-potential-quorum-exploit-method.16492/
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0 points,2 years ago
Cross posting from https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/austin-meetup-dash-stats-2x-videos-on-everydaycrypto.16442/

UdjinM6:
I can confirm that we talked about some edge cases of InstantSend and that this discussion was pretty helpful.
I also like the idea to run statoshi-like site - funny enough I was thinking about the same not so long ago. There are some sites we use for monitoring stats but they rely on rpc + system stats rather than on internals and that is not enough sometimes. However, I'd rather incorporate it into our code instead of relying on a separate repo - this way we would have this tool available for monitoring out of the box if needed and be sure it's up to date. But I'd probably do this in later releases of 12.2 (like 12.2.1/2/3/whatever) or 12.3.
Can't say much about video and meetup but I'd rather give it a chance :)
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3 points,2 years ago
i agree with those who commented on the late voting period and the lack of a pre-discussion, but i also understand your excitement at making your very first budget proposal .. so i decided to give you my support. Lets hope the masternode owners will use this last voting day to good use as more masternode owners voting is what you need right now.
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0 points,2 years ago
Thanks for the support! I thought in the last budget cycle there were some late proposals that got quite a bit of votes just in the last 2 days. So hopefully all the MNs come take a look today. Thanks!
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0 points,2 years ago
It appears to be due to the lack of core proposals, they always get in 4-5 days before the end and a lot of MNOs show up to vote for those.
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1 point,2 years ago
I hope MNOs change their mind about funding you if/when you decide to propose again. Dash needs people like you.
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2 points,2 years ago
You seem to have a lot to offer the community, thanks!

In general, proposals work out much better if the masternode community gets a chance to have a conversation with you in advance, in a pre-proposal thread/conversation. That could and should happen on all 3 common forums, reddit dashpay, dashnation slack and Dash.org forum.

Then, after the conversation and the tweaks and adjustments and clarifications and lots of positive feedback, THEN you make a proposal.

I gave you my two little yes votes, but in the event this doesn't pass, try it the other way and see what happens.

solarguy
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5 points,2 years ago
I have seen this man speak in front of a group at a Dash Austin Meetup and he can handle the most technical of questions with grace. I sincerely believe he can draw many investors in around the Austin area at his meetups. Very professional, friendly and knowledgeable.
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4 points,2 years ago
I like all the work you've put into all this, and the tour and energy you've had. It's a lot of money, really it is. But you've done a lot without compensation, so I am willing to vote for this, and see where you go with it. We're still very young, and we need great energetic people working for Dash to spread the word.

My biggest problem with this proposal is that I don't see a pre-proposal where people would have given you feedback and you could have adjusted your proposal to increase it's probability of passing. Also, it comes so late in the voting period. You've kind of doomed it. Please, if you do a proposal in the future, please make a pre-proposal and refine it per the suggestions / debate etc... that you get from your feedback. Thanks for trying, and I hope you'll be able to do something in the future if this doesn't go.
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3 points,2 years ago
I agree with @Tantestefana and I couldn't have put it any better.

Have also voted YES.
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2 points,2 years ago
i agree also. I honestly think that we don't always have to get great value for money here. Anyone willing to make the effort to work like this for dash is doing some good and we should be funding it... as opposed to throwing the cash on the fire. Obviously i dont want to be conned, but this is real people working and spreading the word - more power to you guys
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1 point,2 years ago
Thank you for the support! In hindsight, yes, it would have been better to wait until next cycle and let people comment on the pre-proposal longer. I only let it sit for a couple hours before posting it live. I was a little too excited :)
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2 points,2 years ago
Interesting proposal, I can't vote for it this time at this price but would be willing to with a few changes....

"$500 Đ1.79 Dash Giveaway for 1st timers (25 @ $20)" 
This is way too much to give away. If you are already giving free food then $5 is plenty.


"$1000 Đ3.57 My time and effort for 2x Meetups (~20Hours)"
This is also excessive compared to what others are getting. Even half that would be pushing it unless it is a huge event 50+ people.


"Video Blogs
$2000 Đ7.14 London Dash conference
$2000 Đ7.14 Instant Send Detailed Technical video "
This is very high too. It could be worth it but the only thing to judge by is the other video you posted, the production quality is too low for that kind of money.


"$800 Đ2.86 Development Cost already completed
$3000 Đ10.71 Continued addition of Dash specific stats"
Not sure if the $800 is worth it as the site is not working for me. I know other people host some very cool stats sites for free so not sure if it is worth what you are asking?
$3000 is too much IMO. I can't see the site now but I can't imagine anything would change my mind after seeing the satoshi site.

I see you added a pre proposal today but it looks like this is supposed to pay out in a few days at the start of the next cycle? We usually encourage (new) people/first time proposal owners to start pre-proposals a few weeks before they submit their proposal so the things like I mentioned above can be corrected and you don't lose money.
If you correct those things mentioned above and listen to what others say I would be willing to vote for this proposal at least one time to see how you do. If this proposal was for half what it is I would consider voting for it but other things would need to be added and some things corrected.

In the meantime feel free to participate in the Dash Force Meetup & Presentation Program if this does not pass.
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/dashforce-meetup-presentation-program.12802/
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1 point,2 years ago
One other follow up, it looks like the link didn't work as the site was adding https automatically. I didn't have https setup, but I went ahead and added that so the links should be working now.
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1 point,2 years ago
Thank you for the feedback! Hopefully I will be able to earn your vote on a future proposal.

I did want to respond to your concerns for for others who are considering:

It would cost an additional 10 Dash to break into separate proposals, and for a small request I thought it would be better to combine them to avoid wasting an additional 10 Dash from the budget.

In regards to the $20 for new attendees. In the Austin area $20, in my opinion is what you need to make people care about it. You give them $5 or even $10 and they won't ever think about it again, you might as well not give anything away at all. We are targeting business folks who are used to getting free meals and swag just by showing up and listening. We need to attract business people who can make a substantial impact on DASH growth and there is a cost to do that.

As for the videos, yes, I agree production quality is low on my existing videos because I do them in my spare time and receive no compensation. I typically do them in one take as I don't have the time to edit them. The content of my videos are good and as I mentioned in the proposal, if I receive funds the production quality will be much higher. I'm already spending quite a bit of my own money about $3000 just to travel and attend the conference in the first place and have spent quite a few hours researching Instant Send and have several conversations with the lead developer UDJINM6 on specific edge cases and definitely want to be able to put this in a nice package for our community so they can respond when people doubt the technology behind InstantSend.

The next meetup will have about 40 people in attendance, there are quite a few people on the business side that do not RSVP through meetup.com so the numbers will be higher than what you see on the site.

As far as comparing to previous meetups:

BITCUNERS_MEETUP_RENEWAL 16 DASH (5980 USD) . for 1 month
was renewed for 3 months total:

Barcelona Bitcoin Meetup
47 DASH (17565 USD)

Compare this to my proposal where I'm requesting USD $2,380 for the meetup, so about half as much as the Bitcuners and about 13% of what was allocated for the Barcelona meetup. This is for a DASH only focused meetup as compared to the Bitcuners.

I would be interested to understand why you see this as excessive compared to what others are getting. Again, thank you for the feedback.

As far as the statoshi site, is there another place where you can monitor UTXO growth and specific function timings already for DASH clients? If so there really would not be a need for me to reproduce it. However, I have not been able to find such a resource, which is why I started the work to build it for DASH. This really is focused on going beyond block sizes and fees and more on what developers need to see the timings on specific function blocks and even diagnose a DDOS if it were to occur on the network.

Thank you again for the feedback.

Thanks!

-Matt
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2 points,2 years ago
One correction is that the Bitcuners and the Barcelona the price conversions are not correct, DashCentral uses current prices not historical so those meetups did actually request smaller amounts.
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2 points,2 years ago
Yes they were a lot less back then but still overpriced at the time IIRC. The bitcuners ended up getting voted down/out at the end which is very rare. I compare what is fair compensation with what we offer in the Dash Force meetup program which is more than fair IMO and all the people who participate have never complained and were very happy with the generous compensation.

I could support giving away $10 per person at most, anything over that is too much IMO.

As for the website, I would like to hear UDJINM6 and some of our other devs weigh in and say if it is something they really need right now and if the price is fair, I can't believe $3000 is a fair price for "Continued addition of Dash specific stats", but maybe it is. I guess it would depend on exactly what else you mean by that, what would be standard and what would you add additionally.

You make a real good point about having additional proposal fees if this was broken down into 2-3 parts. If it does not pass then maybe we/Dash force and Dash incubator and Dash treasury could collaborate and help you with the 2-3 different parts we all agree on.
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0 points,2 years ago
The price for my time and effort is higher that what other people may charge. That is just what I value my time at. So, yes i'm sure that you can get someone somewhere to the development work at a lower cost. However, I bring this value to the community now and have already started the work on it.
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3 points,2 years ago
When you start out you must be prepared to have your passion for the project make up the difference in the price you think you are worth.

Some of us worked for Dash for free for years just because we had passion for the project.
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1 point,2 years ago
Split these up into two separate proposals..
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2 points,2 years ago
Or three, LOL
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